Putting an SR3 on the road??
Discussion
Does anyone know what is involved, or whether it is even possible, to road register something like this: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2640133.htm
Thanks,
Jon.
Thanks,
Jon.
Whilst anything is theoretically possible, the costs and additions involved are likely to be unreasonable.
Much better, and cheaper to buy one already road registered.
Anyway it is beyond me why anyone would want to as the compromises needed to make it even remotely usable on the road would ruin the track ability?
Much better, and cheaper to buy one already road registered.
Anyway it is beyond me why anyone would want to as the compromises needed to make it even remotely usable on the road would ruin the track ability?
Edited by SportsLibre on Monday 31st October 20:45
Much better off with a MEV or a spire, nice one on ebay at the moment.
It will turn out to be a very expensive project, you will even have to buy
smaller wheel rims because they dont make street tyres to fit the rears.
Just think of driving a large gocart on the road, you will need a gum shield
and a strong spine.
Regards
Nick
It will turn out to be a very expensive project, you will even have to buy
smaller wheel rims because they dont make street tyres to fit the rears.
Just think of driving a large gocart on the road, you will need a gum shield
and a strong spine.
Regards
Nick
Thanks for the info. Looking for a nice one to race, and to take to the pub occasionaly - just for fun. I'm not expecting it to be a truly useable road car, but a race car that could be taken down a not too bumpy road and be "just about" road legal...... If anyone knows of any good used ones, let me know. Thanks, Jon.
jfp said:
Thanks for the info. Looking for a nice one to race, and to take to the pub occasionaly - just for fun. I'm not expecting it to be a truly useable road car, but a race car that could be taken down a not too bumpy road and be "just about" road legal...... If anyone knows of any good used ones, let me know. Thanks, Jon.
Sadly, I suspect you'd end up with the worst of both worlds.These cars (or at lteast mine) are awfull to drive round the paddock, I hate to even think about attemting to drive it out my driveway not alone actually on the road. The level ground clearance is only a couple of inches, the front overhang means it constantly ground the splitter on any slope. The first pot hole you it will probably damage the wheel or suspension. The engine/clutch would be undriveable in town traffic. and to get it going well you would need to exceed the speed limit all the time on the open road which would be an obvious magnet for the boys in blue.
I reckon it would be a heavily compromised track car and a crap road car.
I reckon it would be a heavily compromised track car and a crap road car.
SportsLibre said:
These cars (or at lteast mine) are awfull to drive round the paddock, I hate to even think about attemting to drive it out my driveway not alone actually on the road. The level ground clearance is only a couple of inches, the front overhang means it constantly ground the splitter on any slope. The first pot hole you it will probably damage the wheel or suspension. The engine/clutch would be undriveable in town traffic. and to get it going well you would need to exceed the speed limit all the time on the open road which would be an obvious magnet for the boys in blue.
I reckon it would be a heavily compromised track car and a crap road car.
Well having owned a track clubsport and owning a factory SVA 'd SR3 my informed opinion is this .I reckon it would be a heavily compromised track car and a crap road car.
They are worlds apart , suspension set up is much higher no grounding , road wheels ( weigh a ton )not fragile race rims , ecu is mapped for road use , no problem in traffic clutch is fine .
Been followed several times never been stopped , but then I would never dream of exceeding the speed limit ( despite what you may infer from the 3 points I have ) . You no more HAVE to speed than in any other performance car.
Would I take it on the track ............ probably not ........ its a road car , would I have driven my clubsport on the road ......yes I did once , not again its a track car
KR said:
Road legal radical, why,why,why?
Because I drive on track (racing not trackdays) and road in a lot of fast cars. I drive regularly a GTR, M600, GT2/3, RS4, etc so a bit of extreme wind in the hair fun down to the pub at the legal speed limit appeals.Im aware of the differences between a race and road car as I have both, what I was interested in was what kit is needed to make an SR3 road legal (if its possible), then decide whether its worth it or not. A wheel swap over to take it out on a road is nothing and I have full access to a race workshop for other remedial work. A few kilos in lights etc would not render the car useless in a race, suspension geometry would be crap for the road but as I said im not looking to cover cross counrty fast, if I was I'd take the GTR.
If anyone does know of a good straight 1500 SR3 race car please advise, at Caterham money they have to be exremely good value.
Jon.
Have you tried Radical themselves? They are (ahem) quite good at selling cars and dare I say it doing deals (double-ahem). You may find that they can very cost effectively convert a race car (say http://www.radicalsportscars.com/uk/showroom/infor... to a road legal car.
Also it'll come refreshed as well. So if you add up the cost of buying used elsewhere, doing a refresh and doing all the IVA stuff, it could be the way to go. No harm in trying. Ask Jamie Robinson.
Bert
PS did I mention the bertish rule of refreshes? Unless you have double cast-iron proof of engine hours since the last refresh (and no buzzes), it needs a refresh. And yes undoubtedly there are the stories of the 200hour engine. But I ignored my own rule this year and got a pile of broken engine bits for my trouble!
Also it'll come refreshed as well. So if you add up the cost of buying used elsewhere, doing a refresh and doing all the IVA stuff, it could be the way to go. No harm in trying. Ask Jamie Robinson.
Bert
PS did I mention the bertish rule of refreshes? Unless you have double cast-iron proof of engine hours since the last refresh (and no buzzes), it needs a refresh. And yes undoubtedly there are the stories of the 200hour engine. But I ignored my own rule this year and got a pile of broken engine bits for my trouble!
Jon,
I have an SR3 1500 Supersport that was road registered by the factory when first built. Picture in my profile. It's not got much more than the handbrake and light pack more than the race equivalent. I run the same split rims with road tyres, same rear wing, and same suspension (Tracksport has higher front splitter and side pods).
Originally bought it to go racing, never quite got the time, so its mainly been used for trackdays and the occasional blast on the road with mates. I keep it set up for the track mainly, and just swap over to road wheels when I've got some mates round that I want to scare! It isn't practical on the road, but guessing you're not expecting that - it turns lots of heads, sometimes you get a police escort for part of your journey (though never been pulled), and it does certainly make you feel alive on an early morning run. Should say MOT time is fun, so you'll need an understanding garage - mine costs me about £300 per year for prep/oil change/MOT, so not too painful. And as I'm not racing, I use TTS for the engine refresh (half cost of Radical, same parts, as much passion) - that little Powertec seal is costly!
I also have other cars, so the Radical is really just a toy. E63 for the family stuff, GTR was for fast road, though that's gone as a 12C arrives soon, but I'm not taking it til March. Wife has insisted that the Radical goes when the 12C arrives, as I only used the Radical once this year - she's probably got a point, but I'll be fighting my corner... if I lose, I might have a car to offer you ;-(
Depending on where you are in the country, if you want to come out for a blast, happy to accomodate, I'm based near Oxford.
S.
I have an SR3 1500 Supersport that was road registered by the factory when first built. Picture in my profile. It's not got much more than the handbrake and light pack more than the race equivalent. I run the same split rims with road tyres, same rear wing, and same suspension (Tracksport has higher front splitter and side pods).
Originally bought it to go racing, never quite got the time, so its mainly been used for trackdays and the occasional blast on the road with mates. I keep it set up for the track mainly, and just swap over to road wheels when I've got some mates round that I want to scare! It isn't practical on the road, but guessing you're not expecting that - it turns lots of heads, sometimes you get a police escort for part of your journey (though never been pulled), and it does certainly make you feel alive on an early morning run. Should say MOT time is fun, so you'll need an understanding garage - mine costs me about £300 per year for prep/oil change/MOT, so not too painful. And as I'm not racing, I use TTS for the engine refresh (half cost of Radical, same parts, as much passion) - that little Powertec seal is costly!
I also have other cars, so the Radical is really just a toy. E63 for the family stuff, GTR was for fast road, though that's gone as a 12C arrives soon, but I'm not taking it til March. Wife has insisted that the Radical goes when the 12C arrives, as I only used the Radical once this year - she's probably got a point, but I'll be fighting my corner... if I lose, I might have a car to offer you ;-(
Depending on where you are in the country, if you want to come out for a blast, happy to accomodate, I'm based near Oxford.
S.
Edited by slogan on Wednesday 2nd November 18:59
Edited by slogan on Wednesday 2nd November 19:00
Jon,
I have an SR3 1500 Supersport that was road registered by the factory when first built. Picture in my profile. It's not got much more than the handbrake and light pack more than the race equivalent. I run the same split rims with road tyres, same rear wing, and same suspension (Tracksport has higher front splitter and side pods).
Originally bought it to go racing, never quite got the time, so its mainly been used for trackdays and the occasional blast on the road with mates. I keep it set up for the track mainly, and just swap over to road wheels when I've got some mates round that I want to scare! It isn't practical on the road, but guessing you're not expecting that - it turns lots of heads, sometimes you get a police escort for part of your journey (though never been pulled), and it does certainly make you feel alive on an early morning run. Should say MOT time is fun, so you'll need an understanding garage - mine costs me about £300 per year for prep/oil change/MOT, so not too painful. And as I'm not racing, I use TTS for the engine refresh (half cost of Radical, same parts, as much passion) - that little Powertec seal is costly!
I also have other cars, so the Radical is really just a toy. E63 for the family stuff, GTR was for fast road, though that's gone as a 12C arrives soon, but I'm not taking it til March. Wife has insisted that the Radical goes when the 12C arrives, as I only used the Radical once this year - she's probably got a point, but I'll be fighting my corner... if I lose, I might have a car to offer you ;-(
Depending on where you are in the country, if you want to come out for a blast, happy to accomodate, I'm based near Oxford.
S.
I have an SR3 1500 Supersport that was road registered by the factory when first built. Picture in my profile. It's not got much more than the handbrake and light pack more than the race equivalent. I run the same split rims with road tyres, same rear wing, and same suspension (Tracksport has higher front splitter and side pods).
Originally bought it to go racing, never quite got the time, so its mainly been used for trackdays and the occasional blast on the road with mates. I keep it set up for the track mainly, and just swap over to road wheels when I've got some mates round that I want to scare! It isn't practical on the road, but guessing you're not expecting that - it turns lots of heads, sometimes you get a police escort for part of your journey (though never been pulled), and it does certainly make you feel alive on an early morning run. Should say MOT time is fun, so you'll need an understanding garage - mine costs me about £300 per year for prep/oil change/MOT, so not too painful. And as I'm not racing, I use TTS for the engine refresh (half cost of Radical, same parts, as much passion) - that little Powertec seal is costly!
I also have other cars, so the Radical is really just a toy. E63 for the family stuff, GTR was for fast road, though that's gone as a 12C arrives soon, but I'm not taking it til March. Wife has insisted that the Radical goes when the 12C arrives, as I only used the Radical once this year - she's probably got a point, but I'll be fighting my corner... if I lose, I might have a car to offer you ;-(
Depending on where you are in the country, if you want to come out for a blast, happy to accomodate, I'm based near Oxford.
S.
Edited by slogan on Wednesday 2nd November 18:59
Edited by slogan on Wednesday 2nd November 19:03
slogan said:
Jon,
I have an SR3 1500 Supersport that was road registered by the factory when first built. Picture in my profile. It's not got much more than the handbrake and light pack more than the race equivalent. I run the same split rims with road tyres, same rear wing, and same suspension (Tracksport has higher front splitter and side pods).
Originally bought it to go racing, never quite got the time, so its mainly been used for trackdays and the occasional blast on the road with mates. I keep it set up for the track mainly, and just swap over to road wheels when I've got some mates round that I want to scare! It isn't practical on the road, but guessing you're not expecting that - it turns lots of heads, sometimes you get a police escort for part of your journey (though never been pulled), and it does certainly make you feel alive on an early morning run. Should say MOT time is fun, so you'll need an understanding garage - mine costs me about £300 per year for prep/oil change/MOT, so not too painful. And as I'm not racing, I use TTS for the engine refresh (half cost of Radical, same parts, as much passion) - that little Powertec seal is costly!
I also have other cars, so the Radical is really just a toy. E63 for the family stuff, GTR was for fast road, though that's gone as a 12C arrives soon, but I'm not taking it til March. Wife has insisted that the Radical goes when the 12C arrives, as I only used the Radical once this year - she's probably got a point, but I'll be fighting my corner... if I lose, I might have a car to offer you ;-(
Depending on where you are in the country, if you want to come out for a blast, happy to accomodate, I'm based near Oxford.
S.
Scott,I have an SR3 1500 Supersport that was road registered by the factory when first built. Picture in my profile. It's not got much more than the handbrake and light pack more than the race equivalent. I run the same split rims with road tyres, same rear wing, and same suspension (Tracksport has higher front splitter and side pods).
Originally bought it to go racing, never quite got the time, so its mainly been used for trackdays and the occasional blast on the road with mates. I keep it set up for the track mainly, and just swap over to road wheels when I've got some mates round that I want to scare! It isn't practical on the road, but guessing you're not expecting that - it turns lots of heads, sometimes you get a police escort for part of your journey (though never been pulled), and it does certainly make you feel alive on an early morning run. Should say MOT time is fun, so you'll need an understanding garage - mine costs me about £300 per year for prep/oil change/MOT, so not too painful. And as I'm not racing, I use TTS for the engine refresh (half cost of Radical, same parts, as much passion) - that little Powertec seal is costly!
I also have other cars, so the Radical is really just a toy. E63 for the family stuff, GTR was for fast road, though that's gone as a 12C arrives soon, but I'm not taking it til March. Wife has insisted that the Radical goes when the 12C arrives, as I only used the Radical once this year - she's probably got a point, but I'll be fighting my corner... if I lose, I might have a car to offer you ;-(
Depending on where you are in the country, if you want to come out for a blast, happy to accomodate, I'm based near Oxford.
S.
Edited by slogan on Wednesday 2nd November 18:59
Edited by slogan on Wednesday 2nd November 19:03
Thats all good info, thanks. What you do with the SR3 is exactly what I have in mind. May well give you a shout sometime if thats ok. Well done on the 12C, you will like that, mega piece of kit...
Cheers,
Jon.
Hi JFP,
I run an SR3 1300 on the road and it is a lot better behaved than I ever expected. The cambers pull it around a lot but the standard AVO road coil overs give a surprisingly good ride for a race car. It does speed bumps (but only just) and I occasionally drive it to work. In short, I love it. Flying goggles and a sheepskin helmet if it's cold are fine though I have recently bought a clamp on motorbike touring screen thingy just to add a little "GT" comfort if needed. On that note you'll definitely need the seat padding.
I did a lot of asking and ultimately the factory said that it's so much work to get an SVA on a non SVA'd car that you might as well buy a new one. I bought a second hand car after a bit of luck and some patience.
Get one, it's brilliant. Yes it'll be compromised when I race it but not much and I don't really care, it's still blooming fast and funny going to the shops.
I run an SR3 1300 on the road and it is a lot better behaved than I ever expected. The cambers pull it around a lot but the standard AVO road coil overs give a surprisingly good ride for a race car. It does speed bumps (but only just) and I occasionally drive it to work. In short, I love it. Flying goggles and a sheepskin helmet if it's cold are fine though I have recently bought a clamp on motorbike touring screen thingy just to add a little "GT" comfort if needed. On that note you'll definitely need the seat padding.
I did a lot of asking and ultimately the factory said that it's so much work to get an SVA on a non SVA'd car that you might as well buy a new one. I bought a second hand car after a bit of luck and some patience.
Get one, it's brilliant. Yes it'll be compromised when I race it but not much and I don't really care, it's still blooming fast and funny going to the shops.
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