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spaceship said:
That looks excellent mate. Colour really suits it.
Cheers. Bugger to keep clean though!spaceship said:
How is it to run, economy, insurance, parts etc? Been looking at these myself and they seem to be coming in under £2k now for a 190+. My budget has been reduced dramatically and these are a lot of car for the money.
Economy is good, I get around 40-45mpg day-to-day (as I have a long motorway commute) and on a long drive I get around 50mpg. The engine in mine is a BMW diesel, same as in the 320d, but with a different engine management system. Insurance is group 10, and the car has NCAP4 safety rating. Parts are no problem at all - the parts business for Rover/MG was XPart, and they didn't go bust. They still have a huge stock of bits. And there are pattern parts available too. But because most people still think there's problems with MGRover not existing any more, the prices stay low... so you get a hell of a lot of car for your money!If you're looking at a 190, they are quick but thirsty. Make sure the cambelts have been done as it's an expensive job (three belts to replace, and a lot of labour, around £700 total), and check the clutch too - it's also pretty expensive. Apart from that though, there are no major issues with them. The KV6 engine is a good solid lump and performs well. Don't worry about head gasket problems... that only applies to the four cylinder 1.8 litre K series engine, not the KV6.
Two good looking motors there folks...
In all its forms, the MG ZT has enormous "presence" which somehow I do not see in the R75 on which it is based.
KV6 belts... one or two folks have replaced these themselves without using the special tools for the job ~ which I believe cost over £200 ! They have posted up illustrated how to threads on Rover and MG sites if you care to search. Ones I've seen show that even with no previous experience, using advice from web sources, after completing the belt jobs they've found it far easier to do than they first anticipated. I have never changed all those belts on the QuadCam KV6 but by following these fine how to threads, I would certainly give it a try.
There again, I've read that the 6 year / 75,000 mile Rover recommended KV6 Belt renewal is ultra conservative ... twice that:~ 150,000 was originally considered but, the manufacturer erred on the very conservative safety level of 75,000 miles.
There again, another school of thought considers not getting the belts changed at all if they've bought an example cheaply ... if it does give trouble ~ no great financial loss ~ simply get another and save 7-900 quid ~ often quoted for this straightforward job in any well equipped workshop who know what they're doing...
Same old, same old...
In all its forms, the MG ZT has enormous "presence" which somehow I do not see in the R75 on which it is based.
KV6 belts... one or two folks have replaced these themselves without using the special tools for the job ~ which I believe cost over £200 ! They have posted up illustrated how to threads on Rover and MG sites if you care to search. Ones I've seen show that even with no previous experience, using advice from web sources, after completing the belt jobs they've found it far easier to do than they first anticipated. I have never changed all those belts on the QuadCam KV6 but by following these fine how to threads, I would certainly give it a try.
There again, I've read that the 6 year / 75,000 mile Rover recommended KV6 Belt renewal is ultra conservative ... twice that:~ 150,000 was originally considered but, the manufacturer erred on the very conservative safety level of 75,000 miles.
There again, another school of thought considers not getting the belts changed at all if they've bought an example cheaply ... if it does give trouble ~ no great financial loss ~ simply get another and save 7-900 quid ~ often quoted for this straightforward job in any well equipped workshop who know what they're doing...
Same old, same old...
Arthur Daley said:
... nice little earner my son ...
Yes Arthur ,,, A couple of nice cars there! I always think they look good in the dark colours like the blacks and X Power grey. And obviously Trophy Blue! 
That's all £2100 pounds worth of mine - it's a V6 190. I was also debating whether to do the belts or not as it only had 48,000 miles on it and if it did break I wouldn't be losing that much money as I'd probably get a grand for it in parts. In the end I opted to get them done and paid an MG specialist £450 for the job (including water pump) which for the peace of mind wasn't too bad.
Good cars - though mine does have a few electrical problems that come and then miraculously disappear. Usually when it's been raining.
That's all £2100 pounds worth of mine - it's a V6 190. I was also debating whether to do the belts or not as it only had 48,000 miles on it and if it did break I wouldn't be losing that much money as I'd probably get a grand for it in parts. In the end I opted to get them done and paid an MG specialist £450 for the job (including water pump) which for the peace of mind wasn't too bad.
Good cars - though mine does have a few electrical problems that come and then miraculously disappear. Usually when it's been raining.
havanatopia said:
Thinking of selling my ZT-T 260 with 76k on the clock, MK2... any ideas of where to advertise it and how much i could realistically ask for it would be much appreciated.
It has been regularly serviced, nothing major gone wrong and runs beautifully. In X Power Grey.
Thanks in advance.
Not sure on price but a good place to start would be by looking at similar ones in the pistonheads classifieds and then popping up an advert for yours.It has been regularly serviced, nothing major gone wrong and runs beautifully. In X Power Grey.
Thanks in advance.
Take time to give the car a good clean inside and out and maybe a polish and wax. Take some decent photos to accompany your advert, taken from each side of the car and some good interior ones too.
Lovely cars IMHO and I wish I could have one in my collection.
havanatopia said:
Thinking of selling my ZT-T 260 with 76k on the clock, MK2... any ideas of where to advertise it and how much i could realistically ask for it would be much appreciated.
It has been regularly serviced, nothing major gone wrong and runs beautifully. In X Power Grey.
Thanks in advance.
Richard, definately on Pistonheads classifieds. I have just sold mine on there, it was an 04 Mk1, X-Power grey with 79,000 miles on. Sold within 2 weeks, and the first person to view brought it.It has been regularly serviced, nothing major gone wrong and runs beautifully. In X Power Grey.
Thanks in advance.
Fantastic cars, had mine for 3 years and covered 35,000 miles. A lot of car for the money for sure. Regret selling already if i`m honest, but needed the room
Also place it on the Two-sixties site if you are registered www.two-sixties.com One of the best sites i have ever been a member of
Edited by S6 ROR on Friday 24th September 10:02
We looked at a ZT-T 190 today, and we're picking it up Saturday! It is totally unmarked, inside looks like new, alloys not marked at all, and has brand new tyres, goes great, and has only 32k on the clock with 12 months MOT, warranty and tax - all for under £3k!
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Edited by chris watton on Thursday 7th October 19:56
chris watton said:
We looked at a ZT-T 190 today, and we're picking it up Saturday! It is totally unmarked, inside looks like new, alloys not marked at all, and has brand new tyres, goes great, and has only 32k on the clock with 12 months MOT, warranty and tax - all for under £3k!
Most importantly, have the belts been done? although it's not reached the recommended mileage for that, the belts do perish over time, so they should be done as soon as possible if the original belts are still on it. Budget for that would be £600+...calibrax said:
chris watton said:
We looked at a ZT-T 190 today, and we're picking it up Saturday! It is totally unmarked, inside looks like new, alloys not marked at all, and has brand new tyres, goes great, and has only 32k on the clock with 12 months MOT, warranty and tax - all for under £3k!
Most importantly, have the belts been done? although it's not reached the recommended mileage for that, the belts do perish over time, so they should be done as soon as possible if the original belts are still on it. Budget for that would be £600+...A bit thirstier than the Nissan Note, but it has 130bhp more - although I would have liked a little more mid range torque from the V6...
Still, I can't believe these are so cheap, is it just our inherent 'car snobbery' that make them such bargains, right now? (In Italy, half the population drive around in clapped out old Fiat 500's with half the panels missing!)
chris watton said:
calibrax said:
chris watton said:
We looked at a ZT-T 190 today, and we're picking it up Saturday! It is totally unmarked, inside looks like new, alloys not marked at all, and has brand new tyres, goes great, and has only 32k on the clock with 12 months MOT, warranty and tax - all for under £3k!
Most importantly, have the belts been done? although it's not reached the recommended mileage for that, the belts do perish over time, so they should be done as soon as possible if the original belts are still on it. Budget for that would be £600+...A bit thirstier than the Nissan Note, but it has 130bhp more - although I would have liked a little more mid range torque from the V6...
Still, I can't believe these are so cheap, is it just our inherent 'car snobbery' that make them such bargains, right now? (In Italy, half the population drive around in clapped out old Fiat 500's with half the panels missing!)
But generally speaking, MGs and Rovers are great value now because a lot of people still think you can't get parts for them any more, which just isn't true! And then there's the whole mythology about head gasket failures, which aren't anywhere near as common as people seem to think. And this issue only affects the K series engines, not the V6, diesel or V8... and even then, it's not that expensive to have fixed using a multi layer gasket which, done properly, will eliminate the problem.
Keep all of this secret though. Because if people find out how good these cars are, the prices will go up...!
calibrax said:
chris watton said:
calibrax said:
chris watton said:
We looked at a ZT-T 190 today, and we're picking it up Saturday! It is totally unmarked, inside looks like new, alloys not marked at all, and has brand new tyres, goes great, and has only 32k on the clock with 12 months MOT, warranty and tax - all for under £3k!
Most importantly, have the belts been done? although it's not reached the recommended mileage for that, the belts do perish over time, so they should be done as soon as possible if the original belts are still on it. Budget for that would be £600+...A bit thirstier than the Nissan Note, but it has 130bhp more - although I would have liked a little more mid range torque from the V6...
Still, I can't believe these are so cheap, is it just our inherent 'car snobbery' that make them such bargains, right now? (In Italy, half the population drive around in clapped out old Fiat 500's with half the panels missing!)
But generally speaking, MGs and Rovers are great value now because a lot of people still think you can't get parts for them any more, which just isn't true! And then there's the whole mythology about head gasket failures, which aren't anywhere near as common as people seem to think. And this issue only affects the K series engines, not the V6, diesel or V8... and even then, it's not that expensive to have fixed using a multi layer gasket which, done properly, will eliminate the problem.
Keep all of this secret though. Because if people find out how good these cars are, the prices will go up...!
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