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If you want to be a anorack, there are lots of things
but the easiest thing will be the inlet manifold with "VVC" written on it, standard 1.8, don`t have any thing written on it. This applies to "F" models only, TF VVC doesn`t have any thing written on the inlet manifold just to
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but the easiest thing will be the inlet manifold with "VVC" written on it, standard 1.8, don`t have any thing written on it. This applies to "F" models only, TF VVC doesn`t have any thing written on the inlet manifold just to things.400+bhp said:
is there an easy way to determin if an mgf is v v c or not any thing to do with v5 numbers or what ever what do we need to look for on the car to tell us thanks all
A glance at the engine should tell you what you want to know.Have a look at this VVC engine fitted to my son's Rover Metro. If you look right towards the end of the double overhead camshaft cover, below the HT leads, you will see an additional plastic cover which encloses an additional drive belt for the trick VVC mechanism. That cover is not present on the non-VVC 1.8s. This small cover is at the opposite end of the camshafts to the timing belt cover nearest No. 1 cylinder. Yer Tis :~
thanks thats the sort of reply i was hoping for easy visual nice one.. moving on I see the metro water bottle is looking quite brown normal or is it a start of the sludge... seen few and they all vary in colour thanks all..just trying to get a bit of basic on the mg rover side of things..
400+bhp said:
is there an easy way to determin if an mgf is v v c or not any thing to do with v5 numbers or what ever what do we need to look for on the car to tell us thanks all
Red line on VVC is 7200 , eighth letter in VIN should be T, standard vvc wheels are split rim lookalilkies too and I think vvc were standard with ABS...400+bhp said:
thanks thats the sort of reply i was hoping for easy visual nice one.. moving on I see the metro water bottle is looking quite brown normal or is it a start of the sludge... seen few and they all vary in colour thanks all..just trying to get a bit of basic on the mg rover side of things..
We bought that car new in the family sixteen years ago. I do not think that discoloured coolant expansion bottle has ever been cleaned. I often tell my son to clean it as it's so much easier then to do a visual routine coolant level check. I even suggested getting another from a breaker yard car and cleaning that. They come up well with some cleaner and a soak in weak bleach solution. It's one of the things I'm fussy about:~Here's one of mine (620ti with OAT Coolant) :~
and another (220 TomCat Turbo Coupe) :~
and a close friend's R25 I look after :~
Here's what I hate to see ~ a typical example of a car neglected by a less caring owner ...
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400+bhp said:
is there an easy way to determin if an mgf is v v c or not...
Engage 2nd or 3rd gear, depress right foot firmly. If it doesn't scream round to 7000+ RPM without the slightest loss of urgency it's either broken or not a VVC. :-)This is actually only partly a joke, the VVC engine is an absolute screamer which really does pull hard right up to (or even a little way past if you're not careful!) the red line while non VVC engines run out of puff well short of their (lower) limit and the difference isn't subtle! You can look for an extra timing belt on the "wrong" end of the engine, a VVC emblem on the airbox, the wheel style, etc, etc if you like but I think my way's much more fun...
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JG
If the cam belts gone it's a VVC if the head gasket's gone it's a K-series.
Either will boil all the coolent to nothing if you're stuck in traffic for more than thirty seconds as I discovered for myself yesterday. All the radiators have the bolts for two fans I strongly recomend you buy a spare one from a breaker and fit it to a manual switch to act as a back up. Oh and an Aluminium core radiator off ebay for £50 is also a very wise investment. Next day delivery to and my M-Geoff's back on the road.
Either will boil all the coolent to nothing if you're stuck in traffic for more than thirty seconds as I discovered for myself yesterday. All the radiators have the bolts for two fans I strongly recomend you buy a spare one from a breaker and fit it to a manual switch to act as a back up. Oh and an Aluminium core radiator off ebay for £50 is also a very wise investment. Next day delivery to and my M-Geoff's back on the road.
I would suggest your problem is caused by poor maintenance rather than an inherent K series fault, my GFs car has sat in traffic for hours on end and never overheated, then again it doesn't have any water leaks, the water level gets checked, the pump works and the rad is clean.
Only one fan too.
Only one fan too.
Yeah; he's a tired old tub. 1.8 non-VVC had the head gasket upgrade last year. I think the MGF is the spiritual sucessor to the MG B every time I start the car with my fingers crossed and notice a new patch of rust whenever I walk past it. Brilliant. :-) Have some serious upgrades on the pipeline. The general opinion is there's feck all you can do to the engine and there isn't enough room for a hamster wheel in there let alone a turbo or supercharger. Engine swaps are tricky the Tomcat (obvious choice, cheap little powerhouse) won't fit neither will the Type-R. So I'm throwing the box out.
Robert060379 said:
Yeah; he's a tired old tub. 1.8 non-VVC had the head gasket upgrade last year. I think the MGF is the spiritual sucessor to the MG B every time I start the car with my fingers crossed and notice a new patch of rust whenever I walk past it. Brilliant. :-) Have some serious upgrades on the pipeline. The general opinion is there's feck all you can do to the engine and there isn't enough room for a hamster wheel in there let alone a turbo or supercharger. Engine swaps are tricky the Tomcat (obvious choice, cheap little powerhouse) won't fit neither will the Type-R. So I'm throwing the box out.
SOme f's have air con,if there's space for the compressor for that then wouldn't there be space for a turbo/supercharger? I think one guy has fitted a KV6 into an F also...Robert060379 said:
The general opinion is there's feck all you can do to the engine and there isn't enough room for a hamster wheel in there let alone a turbo or supercharger.
http://www.turbotechnics.com/docs/cars/mgf.htmDoubt that the conversion's still available but it does demonstrate that it can be done :-)
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JG
See now I was listening to other peoples opinions rather than look under the engine cover myself. If I had £6000 for the Turbo Technics conversion I wouldn't be looking for a Rover 75 1.8t in a breakers yard. Same block so should mount up easily and 150bhp instead of 118 to start with. Looking for advice on my thread about that one. Got it fairly well planned out.
Robert060379 said:
Rover 75 1.8t in a breakers yard. Same block so should mount up easily and 150bhp instead of 118 to start with.
The same thought has occurred to me on more than one occasion. If it can be done then I suspect the result will be spectacular, more so than the raw BHP figure would suggest as the 1.8t delivers power in great gobs of torque from bugger-all RPM...--
JG
As soon as I started looking the prices doubled. Do my local breakers read this? Have a look at 75 1.8t in an MGF thread, I started to look as the problems and some more informed oppinions would be welcome. Mark at Wisbeach Engineering (Mecca) has seen the conversion done before in Belgum (of all bloody places).
Robert060379 said:
As soon as I started looking the prices doubled. Do my local breakers read this? Have a look at 75 1.8t in an MGF thread, I started to look as the problems and some more informed oppinions would be welcome. Mark at Wisbeach Engineering (Mecca) has seen the conversion done before in Belgum (of all bloody places).
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