MGB Single battery conversion ...?

MGB Single battery conversion ...?

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Jack Valiant

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1,894 posts

242 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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Hi Guys

I am doing a conservative restoration on a friends 1970 MGB thats been laid up for 15 years yes. Both 6v batteries have had it, so I would like to put in a single 12v battery which will fit into one of the holes as well as offering good capacity for starting. Anyone done this conversion and can point me in the direction of the correct battery would be appreciated

Thanks in advance

Chris

wildoliver

8,958 posts

222 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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Just get yourself to a motor accessory shop and purchase the largest battery that will fit in the hole, A vauxhall astra sized one has the right terminals and is an easy fit, however you can get far bigger in there, there isn't a hard and fast rule, just find one that is a good fit to avoid it rocking around.

SB - Nigel

7,898 posts

240 months

Tuesday 20th May 2008
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Agree with above get correct

physical size
terminals
charging and cranking rates

A chap I know done this 15+ years ago as he had a mate at a quickfit type place and they went thro' the catalogues

Have a look on the net and local directories you'd be suprised how many battery specialist are around

You could also look at marine/aircraft style batteries that hold there standing charge for years and are a small physical size I was thinking of fitting one to a Westie once

Droping to one battery instead of two is a very good idea

andrew tolley

101 posts

251 months

Saturday 24th May 2008
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i changed my two 6 volt batteries for a 063 12 volt battery from halfords, cost £49 and it fits well, hope thats of some help to you.
andrew.

Jack Valiant

Original Poster:

1,894 posts

242 months

Saturday 24th May 2008
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Many thanks guys I will try Hafrauds

Chris

Sway

28,677 posts

200 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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Mines a 1980 BGT, with the single 12v battery, currently having an absolute 'mare trying to get it out of the battery bin as it is indeed a snug fit!

Off to get a couple of terminal clamps to connect via (non-conducting!) strap to create a handy bolt on handle.

All because I forgot to connect the battery conditioner when I parked it up for winter...

wildoliver

8,958 posts

222 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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Lol I had same thing on a customers car recently. If there are 2 of you getting underneath and pushing it up while assistant grabs from the top sorts the problem.

Note either buy a smallish battery or one with a strap!

SB - Nigel

7,898 posts

240 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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Sway said:
when I parked it up for winter...
nono

Why would you say and do a thing like that, you're only reinforcing the B owner stereotype

What not drive it sometimes in the winter, there are many salt-free days and the car will benefit from more regular use

Just a thought smile

Sway

28,677 posts

200 months

Thursday 12th June 2008
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SB - Nigel said:
Sway said:
when I parked it up for winter...
nono

Why would you say and do a thing like that, you're only reinforcing the B owner stereotype

What not drive it sometimes in the winter, there are many salt-free days and the car will benefit from more regular use

Just a thought smile
Based on your available info I can understand your ire, but this particular car had been laid up for 7 years prior to my purchase, and although generally sound needed a few hundred quid spent on her before I could consider her especially 'safe' (despite an MOT). I did however drive her as a daily for a while, and that was during the 06/07 winter!;)

You are right though, and I join you in shout B'S BENEFIT FROM REGULAR USE, EVEN THROUGH WINTER! ;-)

To be fair, it's actually about to be stripped to bare metal, modified lightly and semi tastefully, then a Honda s2000 engine is going in, along with independent rear suspension, roll cage and bigger brakes!

Your typical B owner I am not hehe

Hopefully it will look like this (also posted by me in another thread):



although retaining the webasto roof, and with a two tone scheme.



Edited by Sway on Thursday 12th June 20:20

SB - Nigel

7,898 posts

240 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Glad you're another believer in regular use and also not a stereotypical B owner

Hopefully, at least, just after the MOT it should have been safe for use if not tidy or spot mechanically

Each to their own but one of the benefits of a B is the more low revving torqey engine especially compared to a S2000

I had a S2000 for a sort time but could not really get used to its high revving nature, whilst it would (just about) pull from 2,000 revs I had to get it to around at least 6,000 -7,000 to get it really going and its stated power band is IIRC 7,500 to 8,300 where it's designed to be used

Keeping it on the boil on a tours didn't suit me so I sold the car after a few months and got another "classic"

But good luck to you, get the car done and drive it as often as possible thumbup

Sway

28,677 posts

200 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Nigel,
beer

Few people have said about the engine not suiting the nature of the b, but I'm thinking along the lines of a grown-up'swink version of a bike engined midget.

Although you are the first doubter to have actually owned a S2000 yourself...

My reasoning is that it would have enough torque based on the b's lighter weight, ideally I'd like a car benign enough that I can start to roll without using any throttle, although this is not essential.

Surely a S2000 lump has more torque at 2000 rpm than a b series 1800?

Sam

and it most certainly getting underway, bodyshop will be giving me quote next week! Although it won't be next year til they can start.

SB - Nigel

7,898 posts

240 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Ummmm, I've not got any facts or figures to hand but generally 60's cars are lighter than modern cars, not so many electric this'n'thats and safety bits

A GT is heavier than roadster of course

S2000 at 2,000 revs more torque than a B, no idea but I do know that a B driver would feel comfortable at that and a S2000 driver would not, and that figures don't tell the whole story

The S2000 engine is? (was) in a couple of Civics putting out less power, those may be slighty more suitable but I doubt it as they are still designed for high revs but not quite as high as the S2000

The pre-facelift S2000 engine and car has a sharper (more tense) feel to it, I know this as a freind has one and I drove both cars one day to compare

The very early S2000 cars are supposed to even more intense, probably what attracted the bikers to them

I (long weekend) toured in my S2000 once in North England and once in France as well as varios club runs so i did get to know the car and the engine is set up for high revs (thirsty car too)

As you've probably seen from my profile I've had a standard BGT, V8 r/b roadster (when they were unpopular with the "proper" MG crowd) and a couple of Spridgets (neither "real" as they were rebodied and re-engined - so basically kit or custom cars for the unimaginative, like me) so I personally prefer the older style engines and gearing

Bike engined cars like a Midget (or Westie) would not suit me so my opinion may not be the best for your enquiry, if you like modern cars and engines then you'll love the S2000 engine but would the rest of the car (a BGT may be better than a roadster), how much of the original equipment and fitting would you have to change to take those constant high revs?

Try test driving a S2000 then a good quality B and see what you think (unless you can find a S2000 engined B owner to ask)

I like custom cars so applaud any one who builds something different, good luck thumbup


Sway

28,677 posts

200 months

Saturday 14th June 2008
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Thanks for the info Nigel, have a few questions but will PM you to save completely derailing Jack's thread...

Jack - any progress?

Sam

Jack Valiant

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1,894 posts

242 months

Saturday 14th June 2008
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Yes thanks guys, battery in. The one from Halfrauds has a lifting handle so goes in and out ok for maintenece. Car starts fine so the battery seems to have sufficient capacity for the job. Started on the long job of sorting out the electrics as the loom is full of previous bodges and joints. Balancing and tweaks to the carbs are next for a smoother tickover.