No enthusiasm for the ZT 4.6?
Discussion
On the Griffith site, there is regular contribution by people who enthuse about the model.
Why is there not the same degree of warmth and joy, or even a sharing of any thoughts re niggles, about the wonderful MG ZT V8?
I am edging towards part-exing my 5l Griff for a 0 miler; prices range from £16 - £23 for brand new motors with 12 month + warranties.
I had wanted to get a Rover P5B V8 Coupe and maybe tune the engine a little over time; certainly to enjoy some of the burble and V8 wail at times, as once Griffed, I'll never be the same. The older cars can be taken to bits and repaired; same as the P6, the old MGBs or all the later TVR Griffs and Chimaeras.
My missus would go for the ZT for all the mod cons; but I'd feel weird about getting a fancy V8 that didnt have the simplicity of the old Buick based ally Rover.
Right now, a lad in Belgium is awaiting my decision on his offer to buy Bluey so we'll be out of all debt - apart from mortgage - and have a couple of g's left for the P5B fund.... I am thinking of part exing and trading up for the ZT.
Any thoughts? - not re my fiscal issues; more about the wisdom or otherwise of aquiring a ZTV8
Why is there not the same degree of warmth and joy, or even a sharing of any thoughts re niggles, about the wonderful MG ZT V8?
I am edging towards part-exing my 5l Griff for a 0 miler; prices range from £16 - £23 for brand new motors with 12 month + warranties.
I had wanted to get a Rover P5B V8 Coupe and maybe tune the engine a little over time; certainly to enjoy some of the burble and V8 wail at times, as once Griffed, I'll never be the same. The older cars can be taken to bits and repaired; same as the P6, the old MGBs or all the later TVR Griffs and Chimaeras.
My missus would go for the ZT for all the mod cons; but I'd feel weird about getting a fancy V8 that didnt have the simplicity of the old Buick based ally Rover.
Right now, a lad in Belgium is awaiting my decision on his offer to buy Bluey so we'll be out of all debt - apart from mortgage - and have a couple of g's left for the P5B fund.... I am thinking of part exing and trading up for the ZT.
Any thoughts? - not re my fiscal issues; more about the wisdom or otherwise of aquiring a ZTV8
Edited by shadowfax on Thursday 28th September 22:56
I can only think that there aren't any/many owners on here. There is a site www.two-sixties.com which is only for these cars, unfortunately you need to own one and be an MGOC member to register, I am trying to get clarification of this.
I am in a similar position, I'm after a ZTT V8, but as no one wants my Griff I'm having to look for a used example at the lower end of the price range. This doesn't bother me too much as I prefer the MK1 twin headlights to the MK2 all-in-one, but it would be nice to have a brand new one. SMC Ford (used to be Rover) in Slough have quite a few, both new and used, had a quick look the other day, probably the best selection in the country.
Good luck with your sale of the Griff and new purchase, I think there are approx 12-15 ZTT's V8's for sale in the whole country, mostly new or nearly new, so it may take me a while to find one!!
Cheers, Al.
I am in a similar position, I'm after a ZTT V8, but as no one wants my Griff I'm having to look for a used example at the lower end of the price range. This doesn't bother me too much as I prefer the MK1 twin headlights to the MK2 all-in-one, but it would be nice to have a brand new one. SMC Ford (used to be Rover) in Slough have quite a few, both new and used, had a quick look the other day, probably the best selection in the country.
Good luck with your sale of the Griff and new purchase, I think there are approx 12-15 ZTT's V8's for sale in the whole country, mostly new or nearly new, so it may take me a while to find one!!
Cheers, Al.
There is a huge amount of enthusiasum - but not on piston heads. If you go to the xpower forums website you will find a V8 sepcific forum. And then you will see the enthusiastic owners (including me).
I've done just under 40k miles in mine, including some hilarious oversttering track days and it's off to the ring this weekend. The cars are fabulosu, but have a few niggling foibles that can irritate. The character and drive they provide is nothing liek amodern saloon however. I think it's the best drivers car that MG Rover ever made, and better than a large number of other sporting manufactures.
I've done just under 40k miles in mine, including some hilarious oversttering track days and it's off to the ring this weekend. The cars are fabulosu, but have a few niggling foibles that can irritate. The character and drive they provide is nothing liek amodern saloon however. I think it's the best drivers car that MG Rover ever made, and better than a large number of other sporting manufactures.
Here is an enthusiast 
Best kept secret from MG Rover marketing department. its no wonder they went bust. I have one and Holden HSVs and think of the MG ZT 260 as a UK made Monaro but with better brakes (AP Racing as standard) and sharper handling (as good as the 4 door HSVs). Huge tuning potential as it uses the Ford Mustang 4.6 litre V8 and the Tremec 5 speed gearbox (as opposed to the less user friendly 6 speed Tremec in the Monaro). As long as you change the diff oil at 1000 miles, or ensure the previous owner did, and every 10K thereafter zero transmission troubles guaranteed. Small issues with fuel system (BMW derived) and one heater hose suspect are the only 'troubles' I have had but easily fixed.
http://forums.xpowerforums.com/forumd Go here for info, membership not required.
One of my ZT 260s for sale in Solar Red, registered on 55 plate, bought new in Dec 05, 2400 miles only, Accufab throttle body fitted (have oe version), waxoiled from new, reversing sensors fitted etc etc. Not a dealer but would take interesting PX. Email oe_cosgrove@yahoo.co.uk
Edited by Paul-C on Friday 29th September 11:11
Thanks for those messages, folks. Paul, will get back to you on that...
We tried one before we got the Griff and the bloke had done 13K and wanted £14K for it, last May or so. But he had neglected it could you believe? It was so tatty. He had an XPower Space 1999 looking model which was his new toy. Summat not quite right about the lack of apparent maintenence and basic care for such a motor.
Have seen those SMC models on line. But the nearest car to where we live is around 140 miles away as the crow flies (autotrader) so we want to get to see one before we let the belgian lad know what we're doing.
Tnahks for the site links too. Just off there now
We tried one before we got the Griff and the bloke had done 13K and wanted £14K for it, last May or so. But he had neglected it could you believe? It was so tatty. He had an XPower Space 1999 looking model which was his new toy. Summat not quite right about the lack of apparent maintenence and basic care for such a motor.
Have seen those SMC models on line. But the nearest car to where we live is around 140 miles away as the crow flies (autotrader) so we want to get to see one before we let the belgian lad know what we're doing.
Tnahks for the site links too. Just off there now
I'll pitch in just to agree with the rest!
I've had loads of information since I got my ZTT 260 off Xpowerforums and two-sixties. You will certainly find all you could possibly need from people there.
Over and above most marques' owners' forums, you'll also find a number of development engineers and other exceptionally knowledgeable specialists on there, who can tell you first hand about why certain decisions were taken and, if you get an early car like mine, exactly what they did with it when they were driving it around as part of the development programme!
Anyway, ownership is highly recommended! Just make sure you get one with working aircon, and bear in mind that asking prices on Autotrader have at worst stayed static in the last 6 months or have even increased slightly, so now may well be the time to buy!!! (Well... one has to remain optimistic about these things)
I've had loads of information since I got my ZTT 260 off Xpowerforums and two-sixties. You will certainly find all you could possibly need from people there.
Over and above most marques' owners' forums, you'll also find a number of development engineers and other exceptionally knowledgeable specialists on there, who can tell you first hand about why certain decisions were taken and, if you get an early car like mine, exactly what they did with it when they were driving it around as part of the development programme!
Anyway, ownership is highly recommended! Just make sure you get one with working aircon, and bear in mind that asking prices on Autotrader have at worst stayed static in the last 6 months or have even increased slightly, so now may well be the time to buy!!! (Well... one has to remain optimistic about these things)
A friend of mine has just had his ZT back from Dreadnaught garages for the 400bhp supercharger conversion. Apparently it suits the car very well, very progressive power with no surprises, just a lot of it. The best way he could describe it was that "roads seem to have become a lot shorter".
Its a rover 75 with a Max Power bodykit, and a Mustang V8 thats older than internal combustion.
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
fidgits said:
Its a rover 75 with a Max Power bodykit, and a Mustang V8 thats older than internal combustion.
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
Max Power bodykit? I dont think so. Pix of Holden and ZT for comparison. Drives as well as Holden too. I dont think you can have driven one
Yes, that ZT has a truly shocking bodykit. What were they thinking.
As for the handling, well - I don't know what Rover were thinking by making a compliant and communicative chassis. It's ourtrageous that the car can be held so easily in a slide and brought back in line so easily.
Tony
As for the handling, well - I don't know what Rover were thinking by making a compliant and communicative chassis. It's ourtrageous that the car can be held so easily in a slide and brought back in line so easily.
Tony
Paul-C said:
fidgits said:
Its a rover 75 with a Max Power bodykit, and a Mustang V8 thats older than internal combustion.
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
Max Power bodykit? I dont think so. Pix of Holden and ZT for comparison. Drives as well as Holden too. I dont think you can have driven one
I havent driven a holden, so cant compare - but i drove the ZT and was throughly unimpressed...
as for the bodykit, from the side its fine - but i notice your avoided a front-one look, thus avoiding the offensive max power mesh that was on the car i looked at at least.
And i never said it didnt handle well did i - it just handled like a rwd rover 75 - the V8 was perfectly fine, if a touch lazy (IMHO).
I didnt say there was anything wrong with it, just that it didnt inspire me particularly...
fidgits said:
Paul-C said:
fidgits said:
Its a rover 75 with a Max Power bodykit, and a Mustang V8 thats older than internal combustion.
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
Max Power bodykit? I dont think so. Pix of Holden and ZT for comparison. Drives as well as Holden too. I dont think you can have driven one
I havent driven a holden, so cant compare - but i drove the ZT and was throughly unimpressed...
as for the bodykit, from the side its fine - but i notice your avoided a front-one look, thus avoiding the offensive max power mesh that was on the car i looked at at least.
And i never said it didnt handle well did i - it just handled like a rwd rover 75 - the V8 was perfectly fine, if a touch lazy (IMHO).
I didnt say there was anything wrong with it, just that it didnt inspire me particularly...
There you go.........the MG is so much more Max Power than the Holden isnt it LOL! Mail me for a test drive if you like, positive you have not driven one 'properly'
Paul-C said:
fidgits said:
Paul-C said:
fidgits said:
Its a rover 75 with a Max Power bodykit, and a Mustang V8 thats older than internal combustion.
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
Max Power bodykit? I dont think so. Pix of Holden and ZT for comparison. Drives as well as Holden too. I dont think you can have driven one
I havent driven a holden, so cant compare - but i drove the ZT and was throughly unimpressed...
as for the bodykit, from the side its fine - but i notice your avoided a front-one look, thus avoiding the offensive max power mesh that was on the car i looked at at least.
And i never said it didnt handle well did i - it just handled like a rwd rover 75 - the V8 was perfectly fine, if a touch lazy (IMHO).
I didnt say there was anything wrong with it, just that it didnt inspire me particularly...
There you go.........the MG is so much more Max Power than the Holden isnt it LOL! Mail me for a test drive if you like, positive you have not driven one 'properly'
Huh - Either im remembering it wrong (it was a couple of years ago) or they offered a different front end on the one I tested... how odd...
And of course i didnt drive it properly - you never can on a test drive can you (seeing how you dont know the car, and it isnt yours)...
I just find it funny your all jumping up and down just because I wasnt a fan - i havent actually said anything bad about it, but you all seem offended... different people like different things - a lot of people dont like the way the 911 drives, i love it... horses for course n all that
fidgits said:
Its a rover 75 with a Max Power bodykit, and a Mustang V8 thats older than internal combustion.
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
So you didn't say anything bad about it? I beg to differ, not only was your original post a complete misrepresentation of the car but it genuinely does not deserve this type of slagging off. My defense is based on hard facts only, I hate to see interweb nerds dissing things for no good reason.
Paul-C said:
fidgits said:
Its a rover 75 with a Max Power bodykit, and a Mustang V8 thats older than internal combustion.
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
I actually liked them before I test drove one (considering buying one before rover went down the tub) and it drove exactly as my original description.
And while I'm sure it has fans - so does the Austin Allegro...
So you didn't say anything bad about it? I beg to differ, not only was your original post a complete misrepresentation of the car but it genuinely does not deserve this type of slagging off. My defense is based on hard facts only, I hate to see interweb nerds dissing things for no good reason.
I said it had a maxpower bodykit - which i retracted (or at least justified) due to how long ago it was.
I said it was a RWD Rover 75 - am I wrong?
I said it had the Ford Mustang V8 - again - im damn sure thats a fact.
I drove it - i didnt like it - personal opinion.
I fail to see what your issue is, you seem to have gotten hot under the collar because i didnt pat you on the back and say what a wonderful car it was - which i wouldve if i thought that - but honestly, i expected more from it - perhaps that was due to a short test drive in an unfamiliar car - or perhaps it just didnt suit me.
I never once critised the handling - which you seem to think i did. I didnt really critise the engine, other than saying it was a lazy V8 - which from my experience it was, which some people like.
I can only apologise for having a different opinion to you - how dare I! From now on, I wont comment on cars I wanted to buy but didnt like when i went to look/drive them, as obviously this offends you - I trust you will reciprocate and not comment on cars you havent owned as well.
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