Help me find a ZT CDTI!

Help me find a ZT CDTI!

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HorneyMX5

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5,398 posts

156 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Hi Giys,

I'm on he look out for a late pre-facelift MG ZT CDTI in either Blue, red, black or X-power grey. Needs to be a manual, saloon and under £3K. Mileage not that important. They seem to be fairly scarce so if anyone knows of one for sale in the south or south east it would be most appreciated.

I keep my eye on AT, eBay and here but they're all estates, autos or too damn far away!

Nick

HorneyMX5

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5,398 posts

156 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Found one, bought it, picking it up wednesday.



Nick

Edited by HorneyMX5 on Tuesday 20th March 22:09

Roman

2,032 posts

225 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Nice one - worth getting a synergy box from RoverRon and/or remap + intake mod:
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/showthread.p...

HorneyMX5

Original Poster:

5,398 posts

156 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Well chuffed. Does the job as a daily superbly. Wafts along, returns good MPG, comfy as hell inside, plenty of toys and actually handles the twisties really well.

Nick

Wicker Man

818 posts

249 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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That's a lot of car for your money, and a towbar too! What average mpg do you expect/are you getting?

HorneyMX5

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5,398 posts

156 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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It is indeed, paid £2,250 for it with 12 months tickets and 6 months tax. I averaged 45mpg on the way home last night from picking it up which was mostly motorway and I had my foot down a fair bit. I would expect late 40's early 50's to be my average if I drive it sensibly. It's a pity these never came with a 6 speed.

Nick

HorneyMX5

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5,398 posts

156 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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55.4mpg on my journey to work this morning which is a mixture of A and B roads plus a 5 mile hoon up some dual carraigeway.

Nick

S6 ROR

1,585 posts

271 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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I think that the early Mk 1`s look fantastic, especially with that boot spoiler. I started off looking for a CDTI, but ended up buying a 260 instead. Ran it for 3 years and sold it. I really do miss it. May well have to scratch that itch againhehe

HorneyMX5

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5,398 posts

156 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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So I thought after 2 days I better write up a proper appraisal of the new beast.

I'm well impressed with it. The quality of finish is not quite up with the VAG output of the same vintage with regards to plastic quality. The upper stuff and leather is all soft touch and really nice, all the cup holders and cubby holes feel good when shut but when you open them, although they are well damped you can feel the plastic behind it all is a bit flimsy. That said, it wears it's mileage and it's age much better than my Dad's old Boras, nothing looks worn out or gone shiny despite the 9 years and 111K. The only real wear shows on the seats where the alcantara has ruffled up somewhat. The doors, boot and bonnet all shut with a germanic thunk as well and there is not one single rattle or squeak from the interior. The seats are really comfortable, supportive and keep you planted when you chuck it about. The driving position is also excellent and the interior space is well thought out and HUGE!

Driving it is an eye opening experience as it is rather a large beast, biggest car I have ever owned including the old VW T25 van. Out on the road it's 135bhp is not a lot when it's hauling around 1500kgs of car but the torque is enough to make reasonable progress. By modern standards for a 2.0 diesel it's quite slow but it is very refined and surprisingly quite (Which reminds mine, road and engine noise in the cabin is almost non existent). Gear shift feels a little vague compared to the mx5 but that's hardly surprising. The steering is really sharp and there is surprisng amounts of feedback when pushing on, but feels stable and planted at speed on the motorway. This leads me nicely onto the suspension and handling. This is where I am most impressed. It rides undulations brilliantly and while it does feel 'sporty' and a little stiff it's not harsh or crashy. When throwing through a series of tight bends it feels nimble, well planted and like it wants you to push a bit harder, it's handling is really impressive for it's size and weight. Then when you're cruising along the motorway it'll happily waft along in the fast lane at speed quitely and sedately with the minimum of fuss.

When I decided to buy one of these it was because they are cheap and ticked all the boxes for what I need from a daily for work. I've been genuinely surprised at how good a car it is to drive and how well screwed together it is. It seems a shame that MGR's demise came at a time when it was building probably the best car it ever had. Having driven Passats and Golfs of a similar age, I have to say I would choose one of these over the equivalent VAG offering even if money was no object. It's that good!

The only downside is the constant ribbing about MGR going bust and the inevitable Head gasket comments. A small price to pay.

Nick

sjc

14,235 posts

276 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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Glad you like it.I bought a 28K mile 2001 Rover 75 2.5 V6 Connie S.E,30 months ago for 2300 quid. I've doubled the mileage in that time, it's wafted me everywhere in cruise controlled,air-conned,leather seated comfort and it's cost me the grand sum of a service and one £150 repair.Was meant to be a throwaway car, but now it's a keeper unless I swap for a diesel as my mileage is likely to increase.I could have spent 20 grand and not had anything better.
Fantastic,characterful cars,and a hell of a lot of ignorance about them.
Have a look on here. www.the75andztclub.co.uk very helful friendly bunch.

HorneyMX5

Original Poster:

5,398 posts

156 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Some pics of the first day of my ZT getting a full paint correction and detail.

A bit dirty at the start of the day:


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And so it begins:


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Removed the CDTI badge:


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Snowfoam time:


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Looking much cleaner already:


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After being clayed it was masked up for some rotary polisher abuse:


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You can just about see here the swirls in the paint that need to be removed:


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Guy working his magic:


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What CDTi badge?


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This shows the swirls in the bonnet that will be removed:


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Rotary polished tail light:


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Engine bay all dressed and looking gleaming:


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Some beading shots from just the first polish stage:


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Gleaming!!!!!!!


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Tomorrow it will be getting another pass with the rotary on the paint on some panels, a coat of sealant and a couple of coats of wax. Also the interior will get a spruce up.

Nick

HorneyMX5

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5,398 posts

156 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Day 2:


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Nice reflections in the bonnet after the final polish:


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The seats have had a problem with wear on the alcantara centres but nothing one of those little fellas for removing bobbles off a wolly jumper couldn't fix!


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The car was then treated to sealant and a wax and here we can see the lovely beading when the car has water thrown at it:


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And finally some shots to show how clean and gleaming it is:


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A MASSIVE thanks to Guy for another top job.

Nick


C350

3,035 posts

224 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Lovely looking car. I had an estate in X-Power grey from new for 3 years and really enjoyed it. Never got better than 36mpg and that was a lot of motorway miles. Found it a little under powered but it handled very well and was a quick A-B car. Shame BMW never put the 150bhp engine in it. Fuel pump went in the end so I sold it. MAFs are a weak point and mine went twice but it was very reliable.

HorneyMX5

Original Poster:

5,398 posts

156 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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36mpg? You got a lead right foot? I'm averaging 48 and even when I drive it like I stole it I get 40.

Nick

Roman

2,032 posts

225 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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That looks great - excellent photos too. Got a remap or synergy fitted yet?

calibrax

4,788 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Welcome to ZT ownership. So many simply don't realise just how well put together these cars are, and how well they handle. That's why they are a bargain! You car looks particularly nice, especially after the detail!

For the fuel economy, the onboard computer isn't that reliable when it comes to mpg. Don't trust it! Do a brim-to-brim check to see your actual consumption.

Oh, and if you think it performs well now, spend £200 on a RoverRon box. Completely transforms the car's power delivery, and gives you around 20 extra horses (and a bunch of extra torque too!)

Happy motoring! biggrin

HorneyMX5

Original Poster:

5,398 posts

156 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Cheers!

RoverRon box is on the shopping list but I'm currently buiding a replica 1988 British Touring Car repilca which is taking all my spare cash at the moment. When that's finished then I'll get the tuning box.

Nick

RKDE

569 posts

216 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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inevitable Head gasket comments.

Not an issue for you though, just tell them the engine is the bmw diesel and its an excellent engine.

I see you have no fuel burning heater, get one installed and come winter you can get a remote control for and then get in a hot car with all the frost gone smile

Love my ztt cdti and all the extras, very good value for money

HorneyMX5

Original Poster:

5,398 posts

156 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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I'm looking at retro fitting cruise first but the diesel heater is also on the list!

The Zed at Pride of Longbridge yesterday:


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And parked in the front carpark of it's birthplace at the factory:


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nick

mattyprice4004

1,327 posts

180 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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I had to switch from phone to laptop to comment on this car. Saw it at POL and still remember it now - stunning.

You've really done her proud - and if you ever need some more poke from the BMW diesel it's really not hard to get some real grunt.

A few months ago I was a noobie to the 75 scene, but I needed a cheap CDTi Tourer for my business. Picked up a 75 Connie CDTi (135) and although I liked the car, it just wasn't quick enough for me.

I've now got my head around the engine, and have the following modifications:
- Remap
- Synergy II tuning box
- EGR bypass
- Stainless steel turbo-back exhaust with no catalytic converter
- Boost up to 20psi
- Air intake derestriction

She really, really shifts now. Last dyno I had over 300lb/ft of torque, and 160bhp. Reckon I'm at about 180-190bhp now.

All in all, the modifications cost around £600.

Highly recommended, it's like a different car! Scares the local boy racers. smile