GTN?

[steadyrock]

Hey I am just wondering about this GTN. I took the picture a number of years ago in Aberdeen(don't worry, I believe the registration plate is no longer used).

I am wondering, is this a GTN? Or can someone help identify it?



Can you give me any information about it? How many made/power/is it race spec, etc.?

Cheers.

[cerealsurfer]

steadyrock said:

Hey I am just wondering about this GTN. I took the picture a number of years ago in Aberdeen(don't worry, I believe the registration plate is no longer used).

I am wondering, is this a GTN? Or can someone help identify it?



Can you give me any information about it? How many made/power/is it race spec, etc.?

Cheers.

The car you are looking for is for sale at Russell Patterson Morgan (http://www.rpm-morgan.co.uk/) and has been for some time. It is in fact not a GTN but a Mk1 Aero 8 that was originally converted to compete in the Morgan Power Torque Championship. Unfortunately due to class regulations the Aero's are not particularly competative and the original competitor from what I heard suffered a little from spinablity when overcooking corners and eventually stopped competing it... TBH.. when up against similarly powerful cars that weigh 1/2 as much you'd do well to even keep up.

The Championship has two classes for Aero 8's one for S1 cars and another for later models. Neither allow for modifications so other than track preparation and the front splitter it should be pretty much standard. That said, there is an increasing amount of mods you can do to Aero's and the S1 engine has the most performance parts available, all be it takes a some looking to find them.

In stock form the Aero 8 was good for 295 bhp and should weigh in at about 1150kg. This particular car has been stripped a little however due to class constraints should still be running with some interior trim.. which is dark green AFAIK. With a re-map and some intake work 333bhp is easily available.

The car originally had a large rear wing attached to the boot lid but this seems to have been removed, I wonder if RPM still has it as the holes seem from the pics to be in the rear boot lid.

Also I think it was originally a Richard Thorne Car?? and the car moved up north after 2005 ish.... as I'm pretty sure it was up for sale at RTCC then.

As for how many made, there were about 350 Aero S1 cars made from 1999 (prototype) to 2003. The GTN cars were S2 cars as they have a wider centre tub and the Vanos N62 4.6 and not the Non Vanos M62 4.4 or the S1 or the Vanos N62 4.4 of the S2. There were 11 made and were pretty stock other than black wheels, two tone paint (Metallic Silver over Metallic Blue), Carbon Dash (I think), black Leather trim and Yokohama Ao48 Tyres. They also all had carbon hard-top and side exit exhausts. The power output is 335 bhp. I don't have Torque Figures or Weight however both should be close to Stock S2.

The most powerful engine ever used in an Aero is a S62 V8 of the BMW Z8 or M5 this was used in the team race cars and AFAIK nobody has put one in a customer road car.

Edited by cerealsurfer on Sunday 31st May 17:51

[steadyrock]

You are good! Thank you

[Boshly]

steadyrock said:

You are good! Thank you

Yes he is isn't he





However I am pretty sure the GTN uses the S1 narrower body not the S2 wide body

[pluseight]

cerealsurfer said:

It is in fact not a GTN but a Mk1 Aero 8 that was originally converted to compete in the Morgan Power Torque Championship. Unfortunately due to class regulations the Aero's are not particularly competative and the original competitor from what I heard suffered a little from spinablity when overcooking corners and eventually stopped competing it... TBH.. when up against similarly powerful cars that weigh 1/2 as much you'd do well to even keep up.

The Championship has two classes for Aero 8's one for S1 cars and another for later models. Neither allow for modifications so other than track preparation and the front splitter it should be pretty much standard.

If this is the one that was run by Philip McKelvey in Class B in the Morgan Challenge, then yes it never did well against the front runners in the class. But then again it was considered, by some involved in Aero racing, that it could have had the suspension developed much more, which would have made it competitive.

To split hairs (sorry) the relative power and allowed weights aren't quite as unfair as you suggest - the min weights (car and driver) in the Series are 1100kgs for the Aero against 950kgs for the Plus 8 which, given approx bhp of 295 and 265 respectively, should make them comparable on track.

Shame that it never really got going in the Series - it looked great out on track in the midde of all the trads..

[SpeedMog]

pluseight said:

If this is the one that was run by Philip McKelvey in Class B in the Morgan Challenge, then yes it never did well against the front runners in the class. But then again it was considered, by some involved in Aero racing, that it could have had the suspension developed much more, which would have made it competitive.

To split hairs (sorry) the relative power and allowed weights aren't quite as unfair as you suggest - the min weights (car and driver) in the Series are 1100kgs for the Aero against 950kgs for the Plus 8 which, given approx bhp of 295 and 265 respectively, should make them comparable on track.

Shame that it never really got going in the Series - it looked great out on track in the midde of all the trads..

I tend to agree with this having owned both an S1 Aero and Class B Plus 8. I have tracked both and sprinted the Plus 8 a lot. I saw the McKelvey car at Mallory once and was also sorry to see it none competitive. I am pretty sure as pluseight says if some more work was done on the suspension then it would have been more competitive, although from memory the race regs do not allow the sort of mods on Aero's that they do on Plus 8's in Class B. Having said that I think there is a lot of basic 'tweeking' that can be done to the rose jointed suspension on an S1 Aero.

[DJC]

I thought the GTNs were S1s and not S2s ?

[toohuge]

steadyrock said:

Hey I am just wondering about this GTN. I took the picture a number of years ago in Aberdeen(don't worry, I believe the registration plate is no longer used).

I am wondering, is this a GTN? Or can someone help identify it?



Can you give me any information about it? How many made/power/is it race spec, etc.?

Cheers.

If the car is grey with a stripped interior, side exhausts etc and you saw it in Aberdeen then i believe that it was my friends dad's car. It is brilliant, he left me drive it on my birthday and it's brutally fast

It's a beautiful car but at the time it didn't have a heater etc