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combine said:
Yep , went last year with Tvr club ( we don't have a factory to visit ! ) , amazing experience.
I lived in Malvern for a number of years and played football for Morgans (we were called plus8), knew a number of people who worked at the factory and frequently got to look around the factory to see the cars being made. Nice place and a good traditional family run business.
... I've always liked Morgans, but they don't give you the same raw excitement that a TVR does
icraigmy said:
... I've always liked Morgans, but they don't give you the same raw excitement that a TVR does
There are a number of former TVR owners who have changed to Aero 8's who obviously don't agree with you. Have you ever driven an Aero 8, the brochure for the current car is here: http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/sales/new_brochures/...As you can see the relative performance figures for the Aero, compared with a TVR Tamora, are virtually the same, with the Morgan being a much less stressful drive.
Tamora / Aero
BHP 350 bhp / 367 bhp
Power/Weight 304 per ton / 312 per ton
Torque 290 ft/lb / 370 ft/lb
Weight 1150 kgs / 1175 kgs
Top Speed 160 mph / 170 mph
On all other measurements, including roadholding, reliability (BMW V8-power versus Speed Six ), build-quality, etc, etc, the Aero is head and shoulders above the Tamora.
I could go on, but I definitely know which I'd rather have and which is the easier one to run on the pocket.
icraigmy said:
... I've always liked Morgans, but they don't give you the same raw excitement that a TVR does
Agree with Aeroman'comment Re raw excitement...have you ever been in an Aero with sidepipes? The spitfire sound would be enough to give you a hard-on
Edited by g8kam on Wednesday 10th December 18:43
AeroMan said:
icraigmy said:
... I've always liked Morgans, but they don't give you the same raw excitement that a TVR does
There are a number of former TVR owners who have changed to Aero 8's who obviously don't agree with you. Have you ever driven an Aero 8, the brochure for the current car is here: http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/sales/new_brochures/...As you can see the relative performance figures for the Aero, compared with a TVR Tamora, are virtually the same, with the Morgan being a much less stressful drive.
Tamora / Aero
BHP 350 bhp / 367 bhp
Power/Weight 304 per ton / 312 per ton
Torque 290 ft/lb / 370 ft/lb
Weight 1150 kgs / 1175 kgs
Top Speed 160 mph / 170 mph
On all other measurements, including roadholding, reliability (BMW V8-power versus Speed Six ), build-quality, etc, etc, the Aero is head and shoulders above the Tamora.
I could go on, but I definitely know which I'd rather have and which is the easier one to run on the pocket.
I would read this from top gear:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/morgan/aero-8
Edited by icraigmy on Thursday 11th December 07:35
I don't remember them producing a 4.0L Tamora, but maybe in view of the NITRONS, etc, we are now comparing modified TVR's with standard Aero 8's.
In this case, we would like to present our Aero candidate to the modified sportscar TVR and Morgan Aero 8 comparison:
http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/gt3_racecar/gt3_race...
In this case, we would like to present our Aero candidate to the modified sportscar TVR and Morgan Aero 8 comparison:
http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/gt3_racecar/gt3_race...
icraigmy said:
AeroMan said:
icraigmy said:
... I've always liked Morgans, but they don't give you the same raw excitement that a TVR does
There are a number of former TVR owners who have changed to Aero 8's who obviously don't agree with you. Have you ever driven an Aero 8, the brochure for the current car is here: http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/sales/new_brochures/...As you can see the relative performance figures for the Aero, compared with a TVR Tamora, are virtually the same, with the Morgan being a much less stressful drive.
Tamora / Aero
BHP 350 bhp / 367 bhp
Power/Weight 304 per ton / 312 per ton
Torque 290 ft/lb / 370 ft/lb
Weight 1150 kgs / 1175 kgs
Top Speed 160 mph / 170 mph
On all other measurements, including roadholding, reliability (BMW V8-power versus Speed Six ), build-quality, etc, etc, the Aero is head and shoulders above the Tamora.
I could go on, but I definitely know which I'd rather have and which is the easier one to run on the pocket.
I would read this from top gear:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/morgan/aero-8
Edited by icraigmy on Thursday 11th December 07:35
Edited by cerealsurfer on Thursday 11th December 20:20
icraigmy said:
I would read this from top gear:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/morgan/aero-8
Be careful icraigmy, this Pistonhead forum was long ago taken over by Aero owners. The forum is misnamed and would be more aptly called "Aero". The less than resounding success of the Aero has made their owners non-objective and extremely rude when challenged. http://www.topgear.com/uk/morgan/aero-8
Do not try logic. You will only get attacked. Back off. They travel in a pack.
James
Edited by Bartell on Friday 12th December 18:22
Bartell said:
icraigmy said:
I would read this from top gear:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/morgan/aero-8
Be careful icraigmy, this Pistonhead forum was long ago taken over by Aero owners. The forum is misnamed and would be more aptly called "Aero". The less than resounding success of the Aero has made their owners non-objective and extremely rude when challenged. http://www.topgear.com/uk/morgan/aero-8
Do not try logic. You will only get attacked. Back off. They travel in a pack.
James
Edited by Bartell on Friday 12th December 18:22
Bartell said:
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Be careful icraigmy, this Pistonhead forum was long ago taken over by Aero owners. The forum is misnamed and would be more aptly called "Aero". The less than resounding success of the Aero has made their owners non-objective and extremely rude when challenged.
Oh no, the resident figjam is around; I'm off...Be careful icraigmy, this Pistonhead forum was long ago taken over by Aero owners. The forum is misnamed and would be more aptly called "Aero". The less than resounding success of the Aero has made their owners non-objective and extremely rude when challenged.
Bartell said:
icraigmy said:
I would read this from top gear:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/morgan/aero-8
Be careful icraigmy, this Pistonhead forum was long ago taken over by Aero owners. The forum is misnamed and would be more aptly called "Aero". The less than resounding success of the Aero has made their owners non-objective and extremely rude when challenged. http://www.topgear.com/uk/morgan/aero-8
Do not try logic. You will only get attacked. Back off. They travel in a pack.
James
Edited by Bartell on Friday 12th December 18:22
You Can nock Morgans as long as you do it with a smile on your face and don't get all Forlorn about it. You may get a Labelle you don't deserve
Icraigmy, We are happy to talk to anyone about any car and debate the merits of our beloved wheels against any other. TVR's are a great marque and fit in nicely in particular with the Aero and it's owners. As with many TVR owners we are a bit eccentric but deep down, petrolheads through and through.
Don't listen too much to Bartruth he is just a bit grumpy sometimes and suffers a bit of an identity crisis now and again. If you are a motor mechanic however he will be able to have good discussion with you
Bring on the TVR vs Aero/Morgan debate
Boshly
Some more factory photos:
An interesting paint scheme - black wings over matt green
Assorted models ready for pick-up on 2nd January 2009 - The Centenary Year
The Aeromax body production area
Demonstration of how light the Aeromax roof is, lighter than the equivalent Aero 8 hood
A 60's Drophead coupe (Snobmog) wooden body tub made fo stock
A spare seat and dashbooard panel for the Lifecar
A complete Aeromax in 'white', eady for painting
The factory's Aeromax show car
An interesting paint scheme - black wings over matt green
Assorted models ready for pick-up on 2nd January 2009 - The Centenary Year
The Aeromax body production area
Demonstration of how light the Aeromax roof is, lighter than the equivalent Aero 8 hood
A 60's Drophead coupe (Snobmog) wooden body tub made fo stock
A spare seat and dashbooard panel for the Lifecar
A complete Aeromax in 'white', eady for painting
The factory's Aeromax show car
bordseye said:
got to say I really like the look of the Aero from the front, and that colour scheme of matt bodywork paint and black shiny wings looks great. Pity about the bum though.
Which Bum? The AeroMax or the Aero 8?I have to agree that the AeroMax rear is an acquired taste and it suits some colours at the rear better than others. The above picture is the best I've seen of the lighter coloured cars. I prefer the look of the darker reds and blacks, but have no rear pictures.
Edited by ukshooter on Tuesday 13th January 11:47
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