Help Please? Ground Clearance
Discussion
SNCF run a motorail service to southern France that I want to use later in the year. They List Morgan Aero 8, Plus 8 and Roadster V6 as cars that meets their criteria for the Motorail but they have put a minimum ground clearance stipulation on my Marcos (which they have never heard of) of 10cm. Can someone please let me know what your normal ground clearance on either the Morgan Aero 8, Plus 8 or Roadster V6 is?
Many thanks
Many thanks
socramsnalla said:
SNCF run a motorail service to southern France that I want to use later in the year. They List Morgan Aero 8, Plus 8 and Roadster V6 as cars that meets their criteria for the Motorail but they have put a minimum ground clearance stipulation on my Marcos (which they have never heard of) of 10cm. Can someone please let me know what your normal ground clearance on either the Morgan Aero 8, Plus 8 or Roadster V6 is?
Many thanks
Right Heights & Distances as follows.... NB - Car empty. No luggage & Driver or passanger. Also it's a 2003 S1 Aero 8.Many thanks
Lowest Front Section - Splitter
Height from Ground - 13cm
Distance from leading edge of front wheels - 40cm - as this will affect approach angle.
Lowest Centre Section - Under where the doors are
Height from ground - 10.5cm - Due to exhaust silencers hanging slightly lower.
Lowest section overall - Sump
Height from ground - 8.5-9cm - Although in direct alignment with wheels so ok over full width speed bumps.
Funky said:
That's really handy, where did you get that info? I wouldn't mind knowing all that about the tvr becuase the morgans like a truck compared to it 
Be careful Funky. As you are seeing, there are 3-4 Morgan Aero owners here who have very short fuses on anything they don't want to hear. That is why this forum has become so inactive. If you stay here, try to make a mental list of all subjects and opinions they dislike and steer clear of them.
James
Aeroman ~ Hehe it is its so high off the ground i could sleep under it
Cereal ~ It looked so well presented i mistook you for being lazy like myself :P
Bartell ~ Sorry you feel like that i must say all the morgan owners have always been great tom e and helped me in anyway possible whenever they can!
Cereal ~ It looked so well presented i mistook you for being lazy like myself :P
Bartell ~ Sorry you feel like that i must say all the morgan owners have always been great tom e and helped me in anyway possible whenever they can!
Bartell said:
Funky said:
That's really handy, where did you get that info? I wouldn't mind knowing all that about the tvr becuase the morgans like a truck compared to it
Be careful Funky. As you are seeing, there are 3-4 Morgan Aero owners here who have very short fuses on anything they don't want to hear. That is why this forum has become so inactive. If you stay here, try to make a mental list of all subjects and opinions they dislike and steer clear of them.
James
As someone who has posted on PH for at least 5 eyars and on this specific board since it was first opened, I think you are getting your kecks in a twist over nothing..
As you were everyone - and don't forget to join the sidepipe squadron!
Bartell said:
Funky said:
That's really handy, where did you get that info? I wouldn't mind knowing all that about the tvr becuase the morgans like a truck compared to it
Be careful Funky. As you are seeing, there are 3-4 Morgan Aero owners here who have very short fuses on anything they don't want to hear. That is why this forum has become so inactive. If you stay here, try to make a mental list of all subjects and opinions they dislike and steer clear of them.
James
My old Mum used to say, and still does, "If you have nothing useful to say, say nothing."
Ooh also just remembered another cliche' that applies.
"Best keep your mouth closed and let people think you're a fool, rather than open it and prove them right."
As per Mr_Tony - as you were everyone.
Boshly
Boshly said:
Hello James (or whoever you are)
My old Mum used to say, and still does, "If you have nothing useful to say, say nothing." "Best keep your mouth closed and let people think you're a fool, rather than open it and prove them right." As per Mr_Tony - as you were everyone. Boshly
Hi Boshly, (is that your first name or second?)My old Mum used to say, and still does, "If you have nothing useful to say, say nothing." "Best keep your mouth closed and let people think you're a fool, rather than open it and prove them right."
As per Mr_Tony - as you were everyone. BoshlyHelpful responses such as that above is your trademark. You obviously misquoted your old Mum. She apparently said "If you don't agree with my dear little Boshly, say nothing (or else)".
James Bartell
Mouans Sartoux, France
Edited by Bartell on Wednesday 29th August 07:42
Bartell said:
Boshly said:
Hello James (or whoever you are)
My old Mum used to say, and still does, "If you have nothing useful to say, say nothing." "Best keep your mouth closed and let people think you're a fool, rather than open it and prove them right." As per Mr_Tony - as you were everyone. Boshly
Hi Boshly, (is that your first name or second?)My old Mum used to say, and still does, "If you have nothing useful to say, say nothing." "Best keep your mouth closed and let people think you're a fool, rather than open it and prove them right."
As per Mr_Tony - as you were everyone. BoshlyHelpful responses such as that above is your trademark. You obviously misquoted your old Mum. She apparently said "If you don't agree with my dear little Boshly, say nothing (or else)".
James Bartell
Mouans Sartoux, France
, maybe you should try harder to keep this group active?However, it strikes me that your attitude reminds me of one of those marvellous old Punch cartoons in which every last detail is painstakingly explained. A devoted mother (yours?) is looking proudly on at a military parade as her son's platoon marches past: "There's my boy, he's the only one in step!"
Sidepipes rule...
Hello again James 
Secondly, you mention "helpful responses" - I refer the learned gentleman to your first contribution on this topic:
You chose to make a scarcastic unnecessary comment without knowing all the facts. Not for the first time...
And lastly, "3-4 Aero owners" who disagree with you on Aero subjects, but you, who have refused to provide any info of current or previous Aero ownership (Never owned one? though I believe you may run a couple of trads??), must be correct and all knowing?
Adios Amigo, see you again here or elsewhere
Boshly
Bartell said:
Hi Boshly, (is that your first name or second?)
Its easy to see, just click on my profile. At least I have some accurate info on there. Bartell said:
Helpful responses such as that above is your trademark. You obviously misquoted your old Mum. She apparently said "If you don't agree with my dear little Boshly, say nothing (or else)".
James Bartell
Mouans Sartoux, France
Firstly, before I snipe back let me say at least your taking it in relatively good spirit as that makes the whole game more fun this time.James Bartell
Mouans Sartoux, France
Secondly, you mention "helpful responses" - I refer the learned gentleman to your first contribution on this topic:
Bartell said:
Be careful Funky. As you are seeing, there are 3-4 Morgan Aero owners here who have very short fuses on anything they don't want to hear. That is why this forum has become so inactive.
If you stay here, try to make a mental list of all subjects and opinions they dislike and steer clear of them.
James
Very helpful indeed If you stay here, try to make a mental list of all subjects and opinions they dislike and steer clear of them.
James
You chose to make a scarcastic unnecessary comment without knowing all the facts. Not for the first time...And lastly, "3-4 Aero owners" who disagree with you on Aero subjects, but you, who have refused to provide any info of current or previous Aero ownership (Never owned one? though I believe you may run a couple of trads??), must be correct and all knowing?
Adios Amigo, see you again here or elsewhere
Boshly
I don't know the morgan forum seems a little bit odd lately. I smell a troll. I'm not specifically saying bartell but somethings not right and no other areas on ph are quite like it. I say ignore and just like aeroman said anyone who wants to get their knickers in a twist let them as everyone else here is chilled right out
Boshly and Aeroman,
You form a quick attack team together on everything. Are you family by any chance?
As you can see each time you pore over my profile, I have been a member of this forum for almost 7 years or longer than both of you combined. On that basis, it is I who should be greatly suspicious of you rather than you of me.
I also understand from you both that it is number of posts that are important which makes Aeroman 1/3 the person that Boshly is.
Bashly, you are obviously eager for much more information about me. I would normally find that flattering and would send over blood type, shoe size, home phone, children and wives but have surmised you only want more to bash more.
In your cases, why not use your real names as I do. Handles are the accepted internet format used to hide identities, not reveal them. Your confusing murmurs that I could be one of many other people (who obviously displease you as well) are silly. If that was the case, I would have simply called myself "Aeroman" or "Superman" or something like that when I joined here many years in worried anticipation of your arrival years later.
I do like tech talk and there is far more of that elsewhere. Try me at Yahoo on the Land Rover group, a good self-help bunch. I post there regularly for the last decade.
JB
You form a quick attack team together on everything. Are you family by any chance?
As you can see each time you pore over my profile, I have been a member of this forum for almost 7 years or longer than both of you combined. On that basis, it is I who should be greatly suspicious of you rather than you of me.
I also understand from you both that it is number of posts that are important which makes Aeroman 1/3 the person that Boshly is.
Bashly, you are obviously eager for much more information about me. I would normally find that flattering and would send over blood type, shoe size, home phone, children and wives but have surmised you only want more to bash more.
In your cases, why not use your real names as I do. Handles are the accepted internet format used to hide identities, not reveal them. Your confusing murmurs that I could be one of many other people (who obviously displease you as well) are silly. If that was the case, I would have simply called myself "Aeroman" or "Superman" or something like that when I joined here many years in worried anticipation of your arrival years later.
I do like tech talk and there is far more of that elsewhere. Try me at Yahoo on the Land Rover group, a good self-help bunch. I post there regularly for the last decade.
JB
Edited by Bartell on Friday 31st August 12:52
Bartell said:
Bashly, you are obviously eager for much more information about me. I would normally find that flattering and would send over blood type, shoe size, home phone, children and wives but have surmised you only want more to bash more.
"Bashly", oh my, you must be so pleased with yourself about that one I will ignore all the other petty stuff as Funky is probably right, this just spoils the forum!
What I will say, which is a lot more relevant, is that the info I ask you for is not the irrelevant (to us) info you quote above but a little bit of understanding of where you bring your opinions from.
I will, for example, always take more notice of a post on Land Rovers from a Land Rover owner (past or present) than from someone who has never owned one .
Simple logic really, isnt it?
Boshly
Boshly said:
What I will say, which is a lot more relevant, is that the info I ask you for is not the irrelevant (to us) info you quote above but a little bit of understanding of where you bring your opinions from.
I will, for example, always take more notice of a post on Land Rovers from a Land Rover owner (past or present) than from someone who has never owned one
Boshly
You sadly paint your imagined devils in colors that fit your hopes and attacks rather than reality. I will, for example, always take more notice of a post on Land Rovers from a Land Rover owner (past or present) than from someone who has never owned one
Boshly
I do own and have owned many fun cars including a number of Morgans with an Aero 8 amongst them (sold that one after 4 months).
A comment from a mechanically oriented person is far more pertinent than the pompous nonsense one gets from some owners at times. How many of the people who pay to work on your car has a car like yours of their own? If not, why do you trust them..and if you know so much, why do you need them?
JB
Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
Bartell, for your own good I am going to put you on the straight and narrow. It pains me to say it, but you have made a complete laughing stock of yourself in this thread.
Firstly, it's not a good idea to wander into web forums and warn posters about other posters. Especially when you do not personally know those people, and when it's quite likely they all know each other already. Such behaviour elicits pretty strong reactions, although on my part I've found it highly funny.
Secondly - your juvenile responses to Boshly et al demean you and ultimately present you not as some kind of respected retired Morgan Enthusiast made good and living in France, but a 12 year old with nothing better to do in the holidays. I guess given your post count it will be difficult to know if you have dissapeared or not(!), however I'm currently laying money that after the schools go back your posts will subside.
Finally I would point out for your edification that membership of an organisation is all very well, but contribution to a community is what counts in the real world. Your naieve comments and derisory attempts at what can only be descibed as 'willy waving' (REF "I've been a member 7 years" made me laugh out loud. 
Thanks for the entertainment!! 
Unfortunately that is just another detail which means I (and I'm sure the neutrals eating their 
) justly suspect that the only car you have owned is of the Matchbox variety.
Overall consider the impression you are making and perhaps reconsider your attitude? We're all reasonable types here and get along very well in the other locations where we congregate, so it's obvious to us that it is your presence causing the friction in this case.
I'd like you to pull back from the edge at this point, admit that you have behaved somewhat innapropriately, and prove me wrong regarding your age and background by a bit of magnanimous behaviour. Perhaps then we can have an interesting discussion on the ownership experience you had with your Aero.
Which model was it?
Which dealer did you buy from?
Did you collect from the factory?
What chassis number?
What paint colour did you chose.
What would you look for in a future Aero / Morgan?
Was the lack of ABS an issue for you?
did you ever track it? How was it?
Why did you sell after 4 months?
What was the depreciation on the Aero in those 4 months?
After all it's quite likely that someone we know is driving our car now - as a genuine enthusiast I don't dount that you would be intrigued to know what it is doing now? Am I wrong?
I'd like to think you'll see the error of your ways, eat a little humble pie and joiin the community rather than sniping from the sidelines for no apparrent reason. Here's hoping... :beers:
Bartell, for your own good I am going to put you on the straight and narrow. It pains me to say it, but you have made a complete laughing stock of yourself in this thread.
Firstly, it's not a good idea to wander into web forums and warn posters about other posters. Especially when you do not personally know those people, and when it's quite likely they all know each other already. Such behaviour elicits pretty strong reactions, although on my part I've found it highly funny.
Secondly - your juvenile responses to Boshly et al demean you and ultimately present you not as some kind of respected retired Morgan Enthusiast made good and living in France, but a 12 year old with nothing better to do in the holidays. I guess given your post count it will be difficult to know if you have dissapeared or not(!), however I'm currently laying money that after the schools go back your posts will subside.
Finally I would point out for your edification that membership of an organisation is all very well, but contribution to a community is what counts in the real world. Your naieve comments and derisory attempts at what can only be descibed as 'willy waving' (REF "I've been a member 7 years"
made me laugh out loud. Thanks for the entertainment!! Unfortunately that is just another detail which means I (and I'm sure the neutrals eating their ) justly suspect that the only car you have owned is of the Matchbox variety. Overall consider the impression you are making and perhaps reconsider your attitude? We're all reasonable types here and get along very well in the other locations where we congregate, so it's obvious to us that it is your presence causing the friction in this case.
I'd like you to pull back from the edge at this point, admit that you have behaved somewhat innapropriately, and prove me wrong regarding your age and background by a bit of magnanimous behaviour. Perhaps then we can have an interesting discussion on the ownership experience you had with your Aero.
Which model was it?
Which dealer did you buy from?
Did you collect from the factory?
What chassis number?
What paint colour did you chose.
What would you look for in a future Aero / Morgan?
Was the lack of ABS an issue for you?
did you ever track it? How was it?
Why did you sell after 4 months?
What was the depreciation on the Aero in those 4 months?
After all it's quite likely that someone we know is driving our car now - as a genuine enthusiast I don't dount that you would be intrigued to know what it is doing now? Am I wrong?
I'd like to think you'll see the error of your ways, eat a little humble pie and joiin the community rather than sniping from the sidelines for no apparrent reason. Here's hoping... :beers:
Edited by mr_tony on Friday 31st August 18:01
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