1988 - Morgan Plus 8 - Port Side Silencer

[Pauloamore]

Hello,

Melvyn Rutter has advised that the Morgan Motor company don't have the above part and can't advise how long it will be before they do.

Any other ideas would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Paulo

[Wacky Racer]

There are around twenty factory approved dealers scattered around the country, I would just trawl through them one by one hoping for the best....

Names that spring to mind, SGT Taplow, Life's, Harpers, Brands Hatch, Packer Duncan, Richard Thorne...

Also try a wanted ad in the popular Morgan mags..........

[Bartell]

Pauloamore said:

Hello,

Melvyn Rutter has advised that the Morgan Motor company don't have the above part and can't advise how long it will be before they do.

Any other ideas would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Paulo

I believe I may know someone with an extra ss one in the UK. (In which case, it may be yours for free). If not I will be able to point you in the right direction. Let's confirm your dimensions though. My records show an oval silencer where the oval is 11mm by 20mm. The length of the silencer is 56mm. The length of the entry (front) is 13mm and the rear is 6mm. The OD of both is 5.5mm.

If this is yours, great. If not give me the dimensions you have. As well, take special care to note whether the entries are centered or off to one side.

James

Edited by Bartell on Sunday 24th June 14:21

[Pauloamore]

bartell, an incredibly charitable offer. ONe which if we do, i'll make an approproate donatation to charity.

I apologise for my tardy reply.

The car has been at the shop getting through her 1st MOT in 20 years...She's been in the Isle of Man where there is no such requirement....ANyway, I've no access at the mo to check.

I'll get back to you if I may...

[Big-L]

Paulo,

Does this mean the +8 is now in Aberdeen or still in the IoM?

Lawrence

[Pauloamore]

Made it to Aberdeen!

[Big-L]

Paulo,

Great news, well done.

I don't know if you know but the Morgan Club in Scotland (Jockmog) has one of their casual evening gatherings (Noggins) this Friday (13th!) at the Udny Arms, Newburgh, Ellon, not too far from you? (see www.jockmog.org.uk) Folks usually gather from around 6.30pm onwards, a drink or a bar meal is the usual format. being holiday season I don't know how many will be there this week but it might be a chance to meet other Mog owners. If you end up on your own I apologise, it happens sometimes but rarely.

Cheers,
Lawrence

[Pauloamore]

Thanks Lawrence.

I would but i'm off to Norway tomorrow. Back late Friday so no can do.

I really appreciate the invitation.

[Pauloamore]

Bartell said:

Pauloamore said:

Hello,

Melvyn Rutter has advised that the Morgan Motor company don't have the above part and can't advise how long it will be before they do.

Any other ideas would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Paulo

I believe I may know someone with an extra ss one in the UK. (In which case, it may be yours for free). If not I will be able to point you in the right direction. Let's confirm your dimensions though. My records show an oval silencer where the oval is 11mm by 20mm. The length of the silencer is 56mm. The length of the entry (front) is 13mm and the rear is 6mm. The OD of both is 5.5mm.

If this is yours, great. If not give me the dimensions you have. As well, take special care to note whether the entries are centered or off to one side.

James

Edited by Bartell on Sunday 24th June 14:21

Bartell,

Long time.... My exhaust got patched last year but now, the car is getting an actual Morgan dealer service (new dealer in Perth - Russell Paterson Morgan whom have been excellent so far, so they know what they are talking about. I'm told that there was only one single pipe system fitted to the Plus 8 prior to the twin system fitted later. So the dimensions should match up.

I'll get the dealer to check the dims if the system you know of is still available. I'd be forever grateful.

Many many thanks in advance,
Paul

I tried to PM but your PH account doesn't accept them.

[Bartell]

Pauloamore said:

[Melvyn Rutter has advised that the Morgan Motor company don't have the above part and can't advise how long it will be before they do. Paulo

Bartell said:

I believe I may know someone with an extra ss one in the UK.
If this is yours, great. If not give me the dimensions you have. As well, take special care to note whether the entries are centered or off to one side.
James 24th June

Pauloamore said:

Bartell,

Long time.... My exhaust got patched last year but now, the car is getting an actual Morgan dealer service (new dealer in Perth - Russell Paterson Morgan whom have been excellent so far, so they know what they are talking about. I'm told that there was only one single pipe system fitted to the Plus 8 prior to the twin system fitted later. So the dimensions should match up.

I'll get the dealer to check the dims if the system you know of is still available. I'd be forever grateful. Paul

No. Sorry. It is long gone now and on another's morgan.

The single system you have (or any of the single systems on Plus 8s are not popular). Few are made by the after market as most switch to the earlier (NOT later) twin system. These are made up of the MMC designed tubular manifolds (1977-1986) with a mildly larger bore with Plus 4 Supersport silencers. Being the most popular conversion, all the older Agents will have the skills and experience to do it and parts are readily available. The difference in performance is remarkable.

If you choose this, you might be best to consult with Thompson and Potter, a 25 year Agent with a well-known reputation, ad certainly familiar with this conversion. He is just a bit away from the new Agent you are using.

If you want to simply replace defective parts in your new system, I would suggest you speak to two sources. Call up Roger Davis at Harpers (another Agent), he might still have some bits of your present system about. As well, try John Worrall (Heart of England Morgans), he too might have some bits. With luck you might be able to get a complete system between the two. If not, they can have one made for you from the old patterns. Which part is defective?

Pauloamore said:

I tried to PM but your PH account doesn't accept them.

I do not accept messages from pistonheads. Got some weird (unpleasant) emails at one point.

James

[Pauloamore]

HI, thanks for your reply.

Meantime, Russell Paterson has managed to source a second hand stainless system from a carf being modified for greater performance. I'm paying £425 + VAT.... So, much cheaper than a whole system but it is second hand.

A cheap option nonetheless. A false economy? Time will tell.

Thanks again for your positive chat....

PS - How much better are the twin systems? I wanted to preserve the look and spec of the car to be as original as possible.

[Bartell]

Pauloamore said:

Meantime, Russell Paterson has managed to source a second hand stainless system from a carf being modified for greater performance. I'm paying £425 + VAT.... So, much cheaper than a whole system but it is second hand.

I understand that does not include tubular manifolds. As I said, so many with your system or other Plus 8 exhausts upgrade. That is why I felt you could find used replacements cheaply or free.

Pauloamore said:

A cheap option nonetheless.

Actually, if I may be candid, that is a high price to pay for what you are getting and I am assuming installation is included.

Pauloamore said:

PS - How much better are the twin systems? I wanted to preserve the look and spec of the car to be as original as possible.

As a rule, Morgan exhaust systems were not stellar or attractive. The Plus 8s' were the worst. The heddars they had specially cast from 1976 to 1986 were very good but other than these they stock with Rover LR exhaust manifolds which are restrictive.

You can find all sorts of wild claims of power gains from exhaust sellers. They are exaggerated of course but the truth is not bad. You can rely on an average of 15% more bhp on your model with heddars and a twin system. (You will increase the fuel pressure a bit, reset the MAF and retime the ignition after installation.)

JB