Plus 6 Launched

Plus 6 Launched

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NDA

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bad company

19,471 posts

273 months

Thursday 7th March 2019
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I fancy one of those and registered an interest online.

Trouble is I always wanted a Morgan until I drove one. Sorry Morgan fans but I was expecting something that looked classic but drove like a modern car. It drove like a tank and the brakes and steering were appalling.

Reaching for my tin hat. whistle

Edited by bad company on Thursday 7th March 04:34

Gramrugby

547 posts

215 months

Thursday 7th March 2019
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Exactly, you missed the point!

NDA

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22,326 posts

232 months

Thursday 7th March 2019
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bad company said:
I fancy one of those and registered an interest online.

Trouble is I always wanted a Morgan until I drove one. Sorry Morgan fans but I was expecting something that looked classic but drove like a modern car. It drove like a tank and the brakes and steering were appalling.
I know what you mean - the 'traditional' Morgan has all the sophistication of a medieval oxcart, but that's part of the fun.

However, if you want a modern feeling Morgan, buy the +8 with the 4.8 V8 BMW engine (I have one) and it handles like a modern car... or indeed the new Plus 6, which will also feel modern.

bad company

19,471 posts

273 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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NDA said:
I know what you mean - the 'traditional' Morgan has all the sophistication of a medieval oxcart, but that's part of the fun.

However, if you want a modern feeling Morgan, buy the +8 with the 4.8 V8 BMW engine (I have one) and it handles like a modern car... or indeed the new Plus 6, which will also feel modern.
I’ll pass on what you refer to as ‘part of the fun’. I thought it was horrible but each to their own.

I have registered interest in the Plus 6 and looking forward to a test drive.

NDA

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Sunday 10th March 2019
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bad company said:
I’ll pass on what you refer to as ‘part of the fun’. I thought it was horrible but each to their own.

I have registered interest in the Plus 6 and looking forward to a test drive.
I agree - it's why I went for a Plus 8, which has a similar chassis to the 6.

I think the Plus 6 will be terrific - all of the Morgan benefits, but fewer compromises. It will be a fabulous thing to own.

bad company

19,471 posts

273 months

Sunday 10th March 2019
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NDA said:
I agree - it's why I went for a Plus 8, which has a similar chassis to the 6.

I think the Plus 6 will be terrific - all of the Morgan benefits, but fewer compromises. It will be a fabulous thing to own.
I think it’s the same engine I have in my BMW 540 which is great. I’m still concerned about the brakes, steering & handling which were awful in the Morgan I test drove some years ago.

Looking forward to trying it though.

NDA

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Monday 11th March 2019
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bad company said:
I think it’s the same engine I have in my BMW 540 which is great. I’m still concerned about the brakes, steering & handling which were awful in the Morgan I test drove some years ago.

Looking forward to trying it though.
The aluminium chassis Morgans are leagues away from the Elizabethan engineering of the older traditionals.

The engine is almost identical to those used in the 540. It's the B58 used in the X5, X7, M40, M340 and Supra.


cardigankid

8,849 posts

219 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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All of the above comments are fair enough, however, surely, the point of the traditional Morgan is that it is a vintage car built today. The Plus 8 and Plus 6 are modern cars which are built to look like vintage cars, which is a totally different thing. I’ll reserve judgement until I drive a Plus 6, but on the traditional cars, you either like the vintage experience or you don’t. I rather think that if you want a modern car, you should buy a modern car, not one that is masquerading as a vintage car, reminiscent of those bogus wedding cars you see driving about, which are, I think London Taxis. Going to your wedding in a London taxi would, I think, look cooler.

NDA, you know more about this than me and I look forward to hearing your comments. I have a 110 Roadster, so I suppose I may be biased.

Edited by cardigankid on Saturday 10th August 09:46

NDA

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Saturday 10th August 2019
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cardigankid said:
All of the above comments are fair enough, however, surely, the point of the traditional Morgan is that it is a vintage car built today. The Plus 8 and Plus 6 are modern cars which are built to look like vintage cars, which is a totally different thing. I’ll reserve judgement until I drive a Plus 6, but on the traditional cars, you either like the vintage experience or you don’t. I rather think that if you want a modern car, you should buy a modern car, not one that is masquerading as a vintage car, reminiscent of those bogus wedding cars you see driving about, which are, I think London Taxis. Going to your wedding in a London taxi would, I think, look cooler.

NDA, you know more about this than me and I look forward to hearing your comments. I have a 110 Roadster, so I suppose I may be biased.
I am not sure the +8, Aeros or +6 are masquerading as anything. They are hand built Morgans - but without the compromising sliding pillar and leaf suspension.

I really can't see the comparison between a 'bogus wedding car' and a modern Morgan.

Having owned and driven 4/4's, +4's, Roadsters and a Aero - they are all Morgans through and through. At the top of the evolutionary tree are the Aero derived chassis cars.

I found similar attitudes with Aston Martins when I had a Vanquish "not a proper Aston" was the view of the red trouser brigade. So I bought 2 vintage ones .... they were interesting, but still as much of an Aston as the Vanquish was. The comments generally came from owners of older Aston barges who couldn't afford the modern versions.

cardigankid

8,849 posts

219 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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I’m sure that you are right, i was just stating the obvious argument with comparisons - I will get a test drive when Revolutions get their Plus 6 demo.

I quite liked the Plus 4 I tried, a little bit like an old TR4 I thought, but didn't get one at the time because so much broke on the car during the test drive.

cardigankid

8,849 posts

219 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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Does the Plus 6 not have the silly little high level rear light? Looks so much better without it.

cardigankid

8,849 posts

219 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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For me, the main issue may prove to be the auto box. A Morgan without a manual shift does not seem right.

Speedraser

1,663 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Absolutely agree. There is no car that, for me, MUST have a manual gearbox more than a Morgan. No manual available in a Morgan is an automotive atrocity. Does the BMW engine that fakes its sound in every other application also fake its sound in the Plus 6?

Shezbo

602 posts

137 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Speedraser said:
Absolutely agree. There is no car that, for me, MUST have a manual gearbox more than a Morgan. No manual available in a Morgan is an automotive atrocity. Does the BMW engine that fakes its sound in every other application also fake its sound in the Plus 6?
No - it is all real sound!

It does need the Sports Exhaust option though...it is too quiet - without.