Anyone taken up the 110 Edition offer?
Discussion
Yes, I did.
TBH I was buying a new Morgan anyway, and the 110 editions had been announced a couple of days before I placed my order. I wasn’t aware of the Edition until the dealer mentioned it.
So it was kind of a no brainer for me. I wouldn’t have paid for things like the mohair hood etc so it was nice to get the upgrades.
The dealer has/did have some new +4 stock in the showroom which he was happy to do a good deal on but the opportunity of speccing the car exactly as I wanted it was more attractive than a couple of grand off.
Mine is a +4, very happy with it so far (was delivered early January) .
Can’t comment on the Roadster, the +4 seems lively enough to me though.
TBH I was buying a new Morgan anyway, and the 110 editions had been announced a couple of days before I placed my order. I wasn’t aware of the Edition until the dealer mentioned it.
So it was kind of a no brainer for me. I wouldn’t have paid for things like the mohair hood etc so it was nice to get the upgrades.
The dealer has/did have some new +4 stock in the showroom which he was happy to do a good deal on but the opportunity of speccing the car exactly as I wanted it was more attractive than a couple of grand off.
Mine is a +4, very happy with it so far (was delivered early January) .
Can’t comment on the Roadster, the +4 seems lively enough to me though.
Go on then....
Self indulgent video here : https://youtu.be/sFgFA11CJsw
Wander into the garage daily just to look at it 😀
Self indulgent video here : https://youtu.be/sFgFA11CJsw
Wander into the garage daily just to look at it 😀
Thanks guys, I’m really looking forward to the better weather and getting some miles under its wheels...
If you’re interested, here’s a copy and paste of my initial impressions of the car posted on Talk Morgan after my first drive..I’m presuming that as it’s my post I’m not breaking any copyright rules?
“Having taken delivery of the car on Tuesday, I couldn’t wait any longer before taking it out on its first trip (and indeed my first trip in a Morgan that I own as opposed to dealer demonstrator)
I didn’t have anywhere to go so just trolled around local backroads taking some routes I used to do on motorbikes. (The Morgan has kind of been purchased to replace what I used to do on 2 wheels ).
Although the temperature was pretty cold 5 degrees, over cast and a bit mizzley it was entirely necessary to have the hood down, although I did leave the side screens in place. I remembered the sequence for dropping the easy-up hood and that went well, until the bit about “refasten the Tennex stud”. It took a good 5 minutes for me to realise that there is a different Male end to fasten it to when the hood is down...lesson 1 learned.
So off we go, well wrapped up given the temperature.
First stop was at the local petrol station, which is a great little traditional petrol station where they fill the car for you (downside is it’s cash or account only so you have to have the folding in your pocket ..) .This is where I learned the second lesson. You need to allow plenty of time to talk to people when you are stopped with the car. I also broke my duck with the “ oh yes, they have a wooden chassis don’t they” conversation with a local shopkeeper who was passing by..
Headed out of the village, over the cattle grid, and onto the moors.
OMG the steering doesn’t quickly self- centre after a junction turn and the throttle pick - up is pretty fierce. Especially if you’re not quite where you thought you would be in the road. Hmmm, that’s lesson 3 and 4.
Burbling along, through the gears, vaguely keeping in a straight line as we bounce from bump to bump. Quite hard to see though as by now I had tears of laughter running down my face, bl——dy brilliant, why did I wait so long before buying one of these .
A bend approaches, so I’ll drop down a gear (lovely exhaust popping) and brake a bit...brake a bit....BRAKE A BIT.....eventually they respond, reminding me so much of the brakes on a Defender I once owned. Perfectly efficient but not in the same “ breathe on the pedal and you’re stopped” fashion that a modern car has. That’s lesson 5 then...
Naturally, not only was it cold but a bit damp in the atmosphere. Luckily the heater is very good, particularly when you actually put the fan on...is that lesson 6? Probably not, because now it’s on I’ll probably just leave it there.
Relying on the interior mirror (as the standard rectangular ones are as much use as a one legged man in a bum kicking competition) I noticed it had got a film of road muck on it and couldn’t see much. Give it a wipe...I’ve got gloves on....oh! That’s worse. So eventually came to some traffic lights, red naturally, licked my glove and wiped the mirror....ok, let’s give it another go, lick the finger on the glove again and BARF that was salty...but at least the mirror was clean. So that was lesson 6, keep a damp cloth handy just as I did when on motorbikes. Yes, definitely more like the bike than I’d thought!
After that it was just a case of enjoying the back roads, realising how much I’d missed the smells of the country and feedback from road surfaces due to spending too long driving modern cars. Driving the Morgan definitely brings you back into being part of the movie as opposed to watching it through a windscreen.
As the miles ticked by, a whole 30 of them, the bouncing from bump to bump seemed to get less intense. Either I was getting used to it or the suspension was settling in a bit? A rattle from behind the dashboard (in the middle) will need looking at, nothing obvious/hanging down so will look under the bonnet to see if it’s the other side of the bulkhead. If not, I’ll get it looked at at the 3 month service.
Approaching home I was starting to get cold and wondered if the heater wasn’t as good as I first thought. I stopped for obligatory gratuitous pictures, which I hope to attach to this post, and realised just how cold it actually was outside the car! Back in the car, and wow, that’s lovely and toasty so lesson 7 is when driving in winter, make sure you realise how cold you have actually got...
Overall, what a brilliant, wonderful, life enhancing experience my first drive was. Why did I leave it so long!
The car is in many ways exactly what I expected, but the handling at modest speeds is much better than I expected from a ladder chassied leaf sprung car. The pick up is better than I thought and will of course only get better as miles get put on.
The brakes are fine when you get used to them and how the operate (as in the pedal is almost a horizontal press and not downwards).
The smiles and sheer pleasure are way beyond expectations”
If you’re interested, here’s a copy and paste of my initial impressions of the car posted on Talk Morgan after my first drive..I’m presuming that as it’s my post I’m not breaking any copyright rules?
“Having taken delivery of the car on Tuesday, I couldn’t wait any longer before taking it out on its first trip (and indeed my first trip in a Morgan that I own as opposed to dealer demonstrator)
I didn’t have anywhere to go so just trolled around local backroads taking some routes I used to do on motorbikes. (The Morgan has kind of been purchased to replace what I used to do on 2 wheels ).
Although the temperature was pretty cold 5 degrees, over cast and a bit mizzley it was entirely necessary to have the hood down, although I did leave the side screens in place. I remembered the sequence for dropping the easy-up hood and that went well, until the bit about “refasten the Tennex stud”. It took a good 5 minutes for me to realise that there is a different Male end to fasten it to when the hood is down...lesson 1 learned.
So off we go, well wrapped up given the temperature.
First stop was at the local petrol station, which is a great little traditional petrol station where they fill the car for you (downside is it’s cash or account only so you have to have the folding in your pocket ..) .This is where I learned the second lesson. You need to allow plenty of time to talk to people when you are stopped with the car. I also broke my duck with the “ oh yes, they have a wooden chassis don’t they” conversation with a local shopkeeper who was passing by..
Headed out of the village, over the cattle grid, and onto the moors.
OMG the steering doesn’t quickly self- centre after a junction turn and the throttle pick - up is pretty fierce. Especially if you’re not quite where you thought you would be in the road. Hmmm, that’s lesson 3 and 4.
Burbling along, through the gears, vaguely keeping in a straight line as we bounce from bump to bump. Quite hard to see though as by now I had tears of laughter running down my face, bl——dy brilliant, why did I wait so long before buying one of these .
A bend approaches, so I’ll drop down a gear (lovely exhaust popping) and brake a bit...brake a bit....BRAKE A BIT.....eventually they respond, reminding me so much of the brakes on a Defender I once owned. Perfectly efficient but not in the same “ breathe on the pedal and you’re stopped” fashion that a modern car has. That’s lesson 5 then...
Naturally, not only was it cold but a bit damp in the atmosphere. Luckily the heater is very good, particularly when you actually put the fan on...is that lesson 6? Probably not, because now it’s on I’ll probably just leave it there.
Relying on the interior mirror (as the standard rectangular ones are as much use as a one legged man in a bum kicking competition) I noticed it had got a film of road muck on it and couldn’t see much. Give it a wipe...I’ve got gloves on....oh! That’s worse. So eventually came to some traffic lights, red naturally, licked my glove and wiped the mirror....ok, let’s give it another go, lick the finger on the glove again and BARF that was salty...but at least the mirror was clean. So that was lesson 6, keep a damp cloth handy just as I did when on motorbikes. Yes, definitely more like the bike than I’d thought!
After that it was just a case of enjoying the back roads, realising how much I’d missed the smells of the country and feedback from road surfaces due to spending too long driving modern cars. Driving the Morgan definitely brings you back into being part of the movie as opposed to watching it through a windscreen.
As the miles ticked by, a whole 30 of them, the bouncing from bump to bump seemed to get less intense. Either I was getting used to it or the suspension was settling in a bit? A rattle from behind the dashboard (in the middle) will need looking at, nothing obvious/hanging down so will look under the bonnet to see if it’s the other side of the bulkhead. If not, I’ll get it looked at at the 3 month service.
Approaching home I was starting to get cold and wondered if the heater wasn’t as good as I first thought. I stopped for obligatory gratuitous pictures, which I hope to attach to this post, and realised just how cold it actually was outside the car! Back in the car, and wow, that’s lovely and toasty so lesson 7 is when driving in winter, make sure you realise how cold you have actually got...
Overall, what a brilliant, wonderful, life enhancing experience my first drive was. Why did I leave it so long!
The car is in many ways exactly what I expected, but the handling at modest speeds is much better than I expected from a ladder chassied leaf sprung car. The pick up is better than I thought and will of course only get better as miles get put on.
The brakes are fine when you get used to them and how the operate (as in the pedal is almost a horizontal press and not downwards).
The smiles and sheer pleasure are way beyond expectations”
Great write up - thanks - everything I would expect a Morgan to deliver
I rented a 3 wheeler for a day and had an absolute blast, and then test drove an Aeromax - which I wasn't particular keen on the colour of but now wish I had bought it for many of the reasons you describe ...
My day will come soon :-)
I rented a 3 wheeler for a day and had an absolute blast, and then test drove an Aeromax - which I wasn't particular keen on the colour of but now wish I had bought it for many of the reasons you describe ...
My day will come soon :-)
Very informative and very useful - most magazine reviews tend to trot out the usual cliches and not tell it as you do, 'like it is'.
I'm interested in what you say about the steering self centring. Some cars do and some cars don't and in my experience its to do with the amount of toe in, which does slow the car marginally and scrub tyres so you tend not to get it in racing cars. I like this as it gives the car a natural stability. Maybe I am deluding myself.
I would however have expected the Morgan to be good in this respect because it is not a power assisted set up.
I'm interested in what you say about the steering self centring. Some cars do and some cars don't and in my experience its to do with the amount of toe in, which does slow the car marginally and scrub tyres so you tend not to get it in racing cars. I like this as it gives the car a natural stability. Maybe I am deluding myself.
I would however have expected the Morgan to be good in this respect because it is not a power assisted set up.
cardigankid said:
What do the PH Massive think of the current Roadster?
I had the 3.7 Roadster for about 12 months before trading up to an Aero +8 (4.8 V8).The Roadster was ok, it felt a lot more planted (heavier) than the 4/4 and +4 that I'd been driving beforehand. But the suspension wasn't great and I thought the engine sounded like a bag of spanners. Reasonably quick, but I wouldn't say it was a fast car....
The +4, on the other hand, was much more fun - lively and very chuckable. More of a traditional Morgan in my humble view.
The Aero is a different species - but with a price to match.
I enjoyed my Plus 4 I specced in 2006, a lovely car, I too have a photographic record of it's build. I seem to remember it was around £35k, bought from John Gills in North Yorkshire, now closed down.
I also had a Plus 8 in Royal Ivory way back in 1978 when there was a seven year waiting list.
Yours looks lovely, hope you enjoy it.
I also had a Plus 8 in Royal Ivory way back in 1978 when there was a seven year waiting list.
Yours looks lovely, hope you enjoy it.
Yes, I was but at the time I went for a Boxster GTS. I had a test drive in a Plus 4 which I liked though almost everything which could pack up or fall off on the test drive, did. However I am still tempted. I would have expected the Roadster to be a better drive and sound great, and I do like six cylinder engines. I love the traditional materials and craftsmanship, the vintage feel (I am never going to own a 4 1/2 Litre Bentley) and the simple connectedness. Every other car I own is now an auto. Obviously a Plus 4 is going to be 10k cheaper which is great, but if the Roadster is just that bit better, chunkier, torquier, I am prepared to pay for it. What I would really like to have are frank opinions from guys who have run these for a time.
Well, I finally got my Roadster. In fairness to Wolfie who was a great help, I will offer some detailed comments once I get a chance to have a long run in it. What I can say is that it is everything I had hoped and more, a great driving experience. I particularly like the engine/gearbox/clutch combination. The clutch bites suddenly, however, the car has a superb short throw six speed gearbox, so the more used to it you get, the better you can make quick changes, and quick blips on the downchange, along with some discreet popping, and a throaty growl from the engine when you accelerate are particularly good fun.
The one thing I might struggle with on the Plus 6 is the automatic gearbox - which I understand is non-negotiable. I really believe that a manual box is a fundamental part of the fun. The footwell is a little cramped but nothing that you can’t get used to. The handling is masculine but tactile and predictable. That may be down to the recommendations of the dealer (Revolutions) who suggested omitting the power steering and upgraded adjustable shock absorbers. The quality of the craftsmanship and materials is breathtaking, particular highlights being the paintwork and the leather. I think that the detailed personalisation of the specification is very important. I am so glad I bought this car.
Edited by cardigankid on Wednesday 25th September 21:36
I have come rather late to this topic which I found whilst trying to decide which car to keep. I ordered a 110 Plus Four in January 2019 and took delivery in July. It came with the full 180bhp spec and is truly lovely BUT so is my 2010 Roadster Sport and therein lies part of the problem. They are very different cars indeed: the Roadster is a more relaxed drive which does suit me. The P4 has made me laugh out loud to find second gear will rapidly reach over 70mph and is very flexible. Indeed the car will potter along at 25mph in fifth and still pull away smoothly although not as quickly as in fourth. It rides very well on its adjustable Spax shocks and turns in quickly due to being shod on alloys as opposed to the wires on the Roadster. The 110 package was a good deal, the Performance seats are very comfortable on long journeys. I chose a tonneau cover and hood in mohair and the hood is excellent. I don't often use a hood but it is nice to have and it fits very well. The black painted dash looks very well and was chosen because I felt it likely to better stand the hot climate. I only have 4000 klms on it so far so I expect the engine to loosen up. Given the slightly lighter weight and that long second gear, I doubt there is not a great deal of difference in the way acceleration feels between the two cars so it will boil down to something emotional in the end I think . The roadster is rhd and the P4 lhd which may seem bizarre but is the result of hedging my bets on Brexit. Even with 10 years between builds, both cars are very well put together, definitely improving over the thirty odd years that I have owned Morgans.
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