Would You like to Live with a Morgan Car Designer?
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My son has secured a design position with Morgan cars - starting on 9 April 2013. Every year Morgan offer the best student card designers a chance to work for them for three months. My son has been lucky enough to secure a place for 2013, and will be working for the chief designer (I understand there are only two working in the design studio). Of course the position is unpaid and he must continue to pay for his accommodation at Coventry University even when working in Malvern.
I wondered if there was any enthusiastic Morgan owners out there who live near Malvern and would be willing to let him stay with them whilst he works there. Imagine the bragging rights next time you're at a Morgan event!
Anyway - thanks for reading.
Regards
Richard (proud father)
I wondered if there was any enthusiastic Morgan owners out there who live near Malvern and would be willing to let him stay with them whilst he works there. Imagine the bragging rights next time you're at a Morgan event!
Anyway - thanks for reading.
Regards
Richard (proud father)
Richard you could try posting here talkmorgan some of the people on the site live near the factory, but in all honesty I'd not get my hopes up.
Has your son spoken to anyone at the factory, this might be the best approach.
My son did a couple of weeks at the factory and he stopped at a B&B down the road from the factory. If you want details drop me a pm.
Good luck and I'm sure your son will enjoy the experience
Has your son spoken to anyone at the factory, this might be the best approach.
My son did a couple of weeks at the factory and he stopped at a B&B down the road from the factory. If you want details drop me a pm.
Good luck and I'm sure your son will enjoy the experience
Silent1 said:
I think unpaid internships are one of the biggest scams perpetrated by businesses going, it's just not on.
But congratulations to him for getting it
I'm not sure it's always a scam.But congratulations to him for getting it
I ran a media company and we'd take on a few unpaid interns. It was something akin to charity as it cost us a lot in terms of slowing up the company to accommodate them. They didn't really contribute anything as they couldn't be let loose on customers or proper work. We took them on due to constant pestering by them to complete their course work (or whatever).
Good news that the OP's son has got into Malvern - hope he can find some accommodation.
NDA said:
Silent1 said:
I think unpaid internships are one of the biggest scams perpetrated by businesses going, it's just not on.
But congratulations to him for getting it
I'm not sure it's always a scam.But congratulations to him for getting it
I ran a media company and we'd take on a few unpaid interns. It was something akin to charity as it cost us a lot in terms of slowing up the company to accommodate them. They didn't really contribute anything as they couldn't be let loose on customers or proper work. We took them on due to constant pestering by them to complete their course work (or whatever).
Good news that the OP's son has got into Malvern - hope he can find some accommodation.
The biggest problems i find are the companies in london that use them as unpaid slave labour, usually uni leavers desperate for a job and doing the work of a salaried employee on the premise of 'work experience' for 6-12 months, in cases like that the company should just admit they are using them as free labour.
Just looking around, it seems that some 'internships' may be illegal and and have to be paid, i'm trying to find a commentary on the court cases but here's the article from The Granuaid
ETA. There's a bit more from The Granuaid here about the court cases
Edited by Silent1 on Tuesday 19th March 11:07
Silent1 said:
In some cases i think it's understanable, IMHO they should still get expenses + travel to and from work at the very least.
The biggest problems i find are the companies in london that use them as unpaid slave labour, usually uni leavers desperate for a job and doing the work of a salaried employee on the premise of 'work experience' for 6-12 months, in cases like that the company should just admit they are using them as free labour.
Just looking around, it seems that some 'internships' may be illegal and and have to be paid, i'm trying to find a commentary on the court cases but here's the article from The Granuaid
ETA. There's a bit more from The Granuaid here about the court cases
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With apologies for topic drift....!The biggest problems i find are the companies in london that use them as unpaid slave labour, usually uni leavers desperate for a job and doing the work of a salaried employee on the premise of 'work experience' for 6-12 months, in cases like that the company should just admit they are using them as free labour.
Just looking around, it seems that some 'internships' may be illegal and and have to be paid, i'm trying to find a commentary on the court cases but here's the article from The Granuaid
ETA. There's a bit more from The Granuaid here about the court cases
]
I used to pay their expenses - including travel. We then had concerns about minimum wage as well as the development of certain employee rights (discrimination etc).
The trouble is that employment laws have the net effect of limiting opportunities for groups such as 'interns'. I always felt we were doing them a favour, they certainly didn't do us any, we made them more marketable. They had the choice to work for us (we were pestered by them for the opportunity) and we had the choice not to take them on. Nowadays, I wouldn't bother, too much hassle.
NDA said:
With apologies for topic drift....!
I used to pay their expenses - including travel. We then had concerns about minimum wage as well as the development of certain employee rights (discrimination etc).
The trouble is that employment laws have the net effect of limiting opportunities for groups such as 'interns'. I always felt we were doing them a favour, they certainly didn't do us any, we made them more marketable. They had the choice to work for us (we were pestered by them for the opportunity) and we had the choice not to take them on. Nowadays, I wouldn't bother, too much hassle.
I've just this morning being talking to the manager of a very large specialist classic car business. They restore and retail cars and have their own body,paint,trim and engine shops along with modern showrooms and a large retail operation.I used to pay their expenses - including travel. We then had concerns about minimum wage as well as the development of certain employee rights (discrimination etc).
The trouble is that employment laws have the net effect of limiting opportunities for groups such as 'interns'. I always felt we were doing them a favour, they certainly didn't do us any, we made them more marketable. They had the choice to work for us (we were pestered by them for the opportunity) and we had the choice not to take them on. Nowadays, I wouldn't bother, too much hassle.
They are actively trying to set-up an apprenticeship scheme to continue the in-house skills but are becoming increasingly frustrated with the amount of beaurocracy.
All about attitude I suspect. When my daughter is of an age to start looking for work I'd like her to pursue a career which is an interest, not just a job. With that in mind I'd *pay* a company to employ her for a short time as a shoe in. The rest is down to her.
I suspect that unpaid internships are generally a pain in the ass for the company and that the odd gem of an employee introduced via these schemes are only an occasional bonus. I'd love to have been given any sort of opportunity like this, so good luck to your son!
I suspect that unpaid internships are generally a pain in the ass for the company and that the odd gem of an employee introduced via these schemes are only an occasional bonus. I'd love to have been given any sort of opportunity like this, so good luck to your son!
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