A new Roadster
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ooh looks nice, apart from red with black interior thats probably my colour option.
btw, those bonnet straps can be a bit unfriendly to your paintwork, so far in 33k miles my bonnet hasn't fallen off without the strap
did you see any other interesting things in build?, I loved my factory trip last year
btw, those bonnet straps can be a bit unfriendly to your paintwork, so far in 33k miles my bonnet hasn't fallen off without the strap
did you see any other interesting things in build?, I loved my factory trip last year
Edited by sawman on Saturday 22 September 09:26
I wasn't sure about the strap, but decided I preferred the look..... I'm told that the louvres are different for those with the strap, so there's no going back!
Lots of Roadsters going out, I think there was an issue with the V6 engine which caused a backlog.
Interesting to spot complete 3W bodies and engines being delivered....
Lots of Roadsters going out, I think there was an issue with the V6 engine which caused a backlog.
Interesting to spot complete 3W bodies and engines being delivered....
sawman said:
I guess you just need to make sure that no gubbins collects underneath the strap, maybe someone on talkmorgan will have an idea about how to do that.
You don't think I'll be actually driving it do you? It's far too beautiful for that.Kidding.
Yes I'll ask the question..... Thanks.
mph said:
Tell us about it. Driving impressions. Highs and Lows. Does it live up to your expectations ?
Well I guess I have to give a tiny bit of background..... Having owned a Murcielago, Ford GT, Vanquish etc, I would say that I have a good idea about speed, acceleration, handling and being stared at! The 'supercars' are great but increasingly difficult to use - on country lanes I found them too wide and impractical - I am constantly worrying about someone in a Range Rover taking a corner too wide or a lorry coming in the opposite direction. On the motorway 70mph is ridiculously slow, I always want to push faster speeds - but cant do it.Sooo.... What would be the next car? I was ready to pull the trigger on the new XKR convertible, I've had two before and the latest 5 litre version is a better car than a DB9 (in my humble). But I decided at the very last minute to buy a Morgan. I have daily drivers, so this was always going to be a fun car - country pubs in the summer, picking up my son from school etc. but which model?
I drove the new +8 and I borrowed a 4/4 for a while, great fun - but the latest Roadster with the Ford Mustang 3.7 V6 engine seemed the perfect combination of weight and power, just under 300bhp. So a brand new one.... But £60k?? Ouch, that's a lot when you consider what else is in that range, particularly in the nearly new second hand market.
So, ordered it. Watched it being built......
Like all traditional Morgans, it's a fantastic looking thing, a brand new 1930's looking classic. The view from the drivers seat is even better, it brings a massive smile - a long louvred bonnet transports you to another era. The wire wheels, the Motolita steering wheel, the spare wheel..... All attractive!
Driving it is easy, the V6 is a hooligans engine, but 1st gear is ridiculously short and unusable. The Roadster will get to 100 rapidly - it feels very similar to an XKR's acceleration. But speeds over 100 (on a track obviously) feel too fast - it will go on easily to 160, but the period Tudor aerodynamics stop it going faster. Any faster than 100 and you really start worrying about your impending death, there's simply not enough car around you to survive, plus, it doesn't handle like other cars! It is not a car for motorways - it feels too small.
The Roadster is very 'pointable' on the road. You see the front wings and it's not a wide car - so cornering fast feels very secure, you know precisely where you are... But the handling suffers from bump steer and the suspension is clumsy. But this is a new vintage classic! No power steering combined with heavy 16" wire wheels means it has to be hauled around corners, but you know what? I like it. It feels very pure, very raw, very authentic. It's not a 458, it's not a computer, it's how it's supposed to be.... But it couldn't be a daily driver (unlike a 458), but you could leave it in a car park....
Do I want to drive at 150? No, I've done that (and faster) and I don't want to go to prison. What I really enjoy about it is the ease of taking it out - there's no drama. It's a small car - a little too small for two large passengers. It is absolutely perfect for country lanes. Driving along at 60mph with handfuls of power in reserve feels great. I haven't gone head to head with a Porsche or XKR (for example) but the Roadster would be a hard car to shake off. However, it's not the point of it, it's an amusing blend of something to potter about in combined with a seriously powerful engine.
What else can I tell you?
Build quality is OK to good - it doesn't have the unrelenting quality of a Bentley, there are quirks here and there. There's no room beyond a small rear parcel shelf. The hood and side screens are a fiddle to fit (10 minute job) and not something you'd want to do in a hurry. The tonneau cover is a worthwhile additional option - very easy to fit and enables you to leave it parked up in the summer without having to out the hood up.
That's it! I really like it and hope I'll keep it for years, maybe forever. The dealer experience is excellent , Brands Hatch Morgans who supplied it are 'normal'!! They're regular people. Not slick 20 year old's who tell lies - so completely different to supercar dealers. They're real enthusiasts and actually like their customers, it's quite a shock really. A good one.
I would say it exceeds expectations - largely due to the power of it. I think I would tire of a slower model, I don't like having to wring out every last ounce of performance.
Edited by NDA on Tuesday 4th December 10:22
An excellent car and I completely agree with your summary of Morgan driving, albeit my experience so far being limited only a long weekend in a new 4/4 Sport. There are certainly 'better' cars out there, but noting puts a smile on your face like a Morgan. The perfect antidote to our modern computer controlled cars.
sospan said:
Awesome car.
I saw your posts in talkmorgan too.
Colour combination is what I would choose too.
I was toying with getting a roadster until I bought my Plus 8 to replace the 4/4 a couple of weeks ago.
My "Morgan smile" is now embarrassingly huge!
The plus 8 is not the new one!
2002 4.0l
I'll bet it's a very wide grin.... Moving from a 4/4 to a +8 is a great leap! I saw your posts in talkmorgan too.
Colour combination is what I would choose too.
I was toying with getting a roadster until I bought my Plus 8 to replace the 4/4 a couple of weeks ago.
My "Morgan smile" is now embarrassingly huge!
The plus 8 is not the new one!
2002 4.0l
Really glad you are enjoying the "Moggie" experience. I am on my second, only a +4 but everything you say about your car is true. There is nothing better than having loads of fun at or just below the legal speed limit and don't forget, you tend to share a Morgan with everyone who see's it. Whenever you park up you instantly have a new group of freinds who want to know all about it.
Re. the bonnet strap, the only place mine has rubbed is below the buckle which can be sort of rectified with weekly ( in the summer ) applications of Autoglm, the rest is covered by the sheeps wool. I also fully agree with your experience of BHM, what a great group of people especially the lovely Sarah who could tempt you into buying anything!!
Good luck with your ownership but as a final treat, do take it down to the Le Mans Classic with the 300+ other Morgan nuts and the Mille Miglia, the Italians know a good car when they see one.
Re. the bonnet strap, the only place mine has rubbed is below the buckle which can be sort of rectified with weekly ( in the summer ) applications of Autoglm, the rest is covered by the sheeps wool. I also fully agree with your experience of BHM, what a great group of people especially the lovely Sarah who could tempt you into buying anything!!
Good luck with your ownership but as a final treat, do take it down to the Le Mans Classic with the 300+ other Morgan nuts and the Mille Miglia, the Italians know a good car when they see one.
I really want a Morgan one day. I just wish they would do something about the silly pedal box. If you have size 12's it is extremely difficult to drive one. Seems crazy coming from a country with a lot of tall lanky blokes. The top of the shoe contacts the steering column cover. Pretty much the only thing stopping me buying one.
PS your car is gorgeous almost exactly how I'd spec mine.
PS your car is gorgeous almost exactly how I'd spec mine.
Sorry for the old thread bump NDA, but I wondered if you'd consider letting me know your thoughts on your car now you've presumably sold it?
I'm slightly at a loss as to whether I'd like a V6 as if I'm honest I thought the plus 4 we hired from the factory was about as powerful an engine that the chassis needed!
I'm slightly at a loss as to whether I'd like a V6 as if I'm honest I thought the plus 4 we hired from the factory was about as powerful an engine that the chassis needed!
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Sorry for the old thread bump NDA, but I wondered if you'd consider letting me know your thoughts on your car now you've presumably sold it?
I'm slightly at a loss as to whether I'd like a V6 as if I'm honest I thought the plus 4 we hired from the factory was about as powerful an engine that the chassis needed!
Any traditional Morgan is going to feel a bit unsafe over 100mph and the natural habitat is country roads at 60mph.... The Roadster, in comparison to a +4, feels more planted and has more authority on the road - more weight. But ultimately it's going to sit at 60/70 - but comfortably so.I'm slightly at a loss as to whether I'd like a V6 as if I'm honest I thought the plus 4 we hired from the factory was about as powerful an engine that the chassis needed!
The +4 is a lighter more nimble car, more fun to chuck around a bit - but longer journeys would feel a bit more tiring as you can't drive it along on the torque - you have to wring out the performance.
I guess it all depends how you drive and how you see yourself using the car. I prefer something with a bit of performance under the bonnet.
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