new 4/4 Sport

[JNR77]

I am currently strangly drawn to the 4/4 sport; i have no experience of Morgan but love the looks of a black one with saddle leather available at a couple of dealers. I have owned a couple of TVR's so am use to the quirks of hand built british sports cars.

With a 1600cc engine i dont for one minute expect the grunt of a TVR, but wonder what they drive like? if anyone has experience of them i would like to hear from them.

[sawman]

Cant help you with the specifics of the 4/4 sport, but my old 4/4 4 seater is a very entertaining drive, not out and out fast, but huge fun. the sport has a torquey modern engine (rather than my old cvh) so I would imagine if feels a good bit brisker.

I think it has about 115 bhp in a car less than 800kg is not far off elise stats.

Generally reliability is good, the roof will leak but other than that pretty liveable with

Heres a couple of clips to get you going: linky1

and: linky2

[GLLHG]

JNR77 said:

I am currently strangly drawn to the 4/4 sport; i have no experience of Morgan but love the looks of a black one with saddle leather available at a couple of dealers. I have owned a couple of TVR's so am use to the quirks of hand built british sports cars.

With a 1600cc engine i dont for one minute expect the grunt of a TVR, but wonder what they drive like? if anyone has experience of them i would like to hear from them.

Ford Sigma engine, Latest info from Morgan Factory is that it actually puts out about 120 BHP. Ford 4 cylinder engine so don't expect bags of torque and, like most of the Fotd 4 cyls, you will have to keep the revs up through the box
Doesn't have all the bits that the traditional 'bespoke' 4/4 has so, for example, minimum bonnet louvres ( not a practical problem) and no spare wheel
Some people like the 'pared down' look , others don't
There is a 'Sports pack' available if you want it which goes throgh various stages ranging from sports manifold and exhaust to individual throttle bodies and an Omex ECU but it ain't cheap
One thing you might want to think about is that in standard form it has quite a high final diff ratio- a lot of owners change this when they spec the car
Drive wise, you are not going to get the low down 'grunt of a Tiv but they are very lively mcars if you keep in the upper rev range and rember, it is a very light car
Last- but not least, being a Morgan, it is a very hard ride- much like a traditional sports car.
Best advice must be, You really have to drive one to make up your mind. With Morgans, you either get or you don't
HTH
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[JNR77]

I must admit the pared down look is what attracted it to me, the look is much more authentic to a 1940/50's sports car. To my eye alot of the bespoke Mog's with chrome wires, cream piped leather interiors etc look a bit bling; i guess its a matter of taste.

Chassis wise does the 4/4 differ from the plus 4 and the roadster v6?

[GLLHG]

JNR77 said:

I must admit the pared down look is what attracted it to me, the look is much more authentic to a 1940/50's sports car. To my eye alot of the bespoke Mog's with chrome wires, cream piped leather interiors etc look a bit bling; i guess its a matter of taste.

Chassis wise does the 4/4 differ from the plus 4 and the roadster v6?

In basic configuration, no- in all the trads, you get the same front and rear suspension set up but there ARE slight differences in dimensions as, over the years, slightly wider bodies etc have been used in one car and then this has spread to others, so you may well find small difference in dimensions depending on the age of the car

As a general guide, current dimensions are roughly as follows:

Length : 4010mm
Width : 1610mm
Height : 1220mm


You'll also find references to things like 'Long door' and 'lowline'These are self explanatory but they can make a difference to the fit and feel of the car, so it's a good idea to decide wich variation suits you ( I'm 6'3" so I went specifically for a lowline long door car when I bought my current 4/4)

The driving position is a bit strange in some ways - not least because the pedalbox is narrow and until you get used to it, some people have a problem with covering both brake and accelerator when braking etc
Another issue might be whether yo go for new or used. A lot of us take the view that a good pre-owned car will have been well sorted and probaly have a good spec, whereas, with any new handbuilt car, there are inevitably niggles which need to be looked at. I don't think one view is better than the other- you pays your money etc etc.

Up until very recently, one feature of the Sport was that this capability for an owner to spec his car pretty much as he liked when placing the order wasn't available. TheSport came in a set number of colourways with a limited choice of interior colours. There now seemto be move away from this back to the idea that the new owner could spec as he liked ( so long as he could pay) All th stuff you might have heard aboput 'extras' is true- exterior door handles don't come as standard!

HTH
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