Tyre sizes
Tyre sizes
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beljames

Original Poster:

285 posts

283 months

Monday 18th March 2002
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I'll apologize in advance for the vague nature of this message, but I am some 3,000 miles away from the car and can't confirm the details. Anyway - here goes!

I have a very early Chimaera, which has very strange tyres on it. SO2's on the rear, and some dreadful Pirrelli things on the front. So, as there is plenty of tread on the rear, I decided to change the fronts to SO2's or SO3's.

However - there is something strange going on. My front (and rear) tyres are funny sizes (I can't state them 'cause I can't remember them!). I consult Steve's book for advice. To my relief I find that this is normal for the early Chimaera's, but my local tyre place says that Bridgestone never made SO2's in the size of my front tyres and I'd have to pick another brand. Having said that, they would tell you that the sky was green if they thought you'd pay them.

Does anyone know if I can change the front tyres to the new (standard) size fitted to the later cars (the wheels are the same size) and leave the rears until they die naturally (remember the rears are slightly different as well!). Or will this upset the balance of the car and I have to replace all 4 now?

Also - have I been lied to? Did Bridgestone ever make the SO2 in the earlier size? If not, what did they come out of the factory with?

Sorry I can't be more specific. Take a gander at Steve's book for more enlightenment on the sizes.

Cheers

JB

Corin Denton

8,762 posts

284 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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Best size to run the front tyres on is 225/50/15 , this is the size I currently use in Bridgestone SO2 ,when you get five minutes write down the size of your tyres and post it up here , I'm a manager of ATS and will check what is available.

trefor

14,685 posts

299 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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If you don't have PAS you might find 205/55 x15s easier on the arms, not much difference in grip, more pose value than anything else if you ask me (I've got 225s on, but have PAS).

hughjayteens

2,029 posts

284 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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Corin - How much are front 225/50 15s?

I need two and want either S02s, F1s or PZeros..

Cheers

sybaseian

1,826 posts

291 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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Corin - How much are front 225/50 15s?

I need two and want either S02s, F1s or PZeros..

Cheers



I have 205/55/15 SO3's on the front - £210 fitted and balanced.
I also have just replaced the SO3's on the rear (245/45/16) - £310 fitted and balanced.

Hope that helps

jeffgleed

111 posts

286 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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Phone ProTyre and ask them how much their SO2's are, they have probably got some. I got a pair of 225/50 ZR 16's (Rear) for £211 fitted.

hughjayteens

2,029 posts

284 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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I was quoted £249 for 2 front S02s at protyre??

How did you get rears for £211??

jeffgleed

111 posts

286 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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Don't know, the 4.0 Griffs use 225's on the back, yours may use larger sizes. Other than that I was just lucky I guess.

hughjayteens

2,029 posts

284 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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Mine has the 500 wheels with 225s at the front and 245s at the rear, so that could be why!

Dan Myers

278 posts

299 months

Monday 25th March 2002
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Jet Tyres (Essex) did me a pair of SO2s for the front at £154 (March 2001) and rear SO3s for £211 (Nov 2001).

01268 511161 (Canvey) or 822828 (Basildon).

Dan

manek

2,977 posts

300 months

Monday 25th March 2002
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As Trefor says, you can use 205s at the front. If you do, you a) put less strain on your arms or the PAS (depending on which you use!), b) you save money and c) in my view you get more balanced handling.

Worth considering.

beljames

Original Poster:

285 posts

283 months

Friday 5th April 2002
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Sorry to ressurect this thread, but I have a bit more info. I have 205/60/15's on the front, which is apparently what TVR fitted to the early Chim's.

I am trying to replace these with 205/55/15 SO2's without much luck. Cannot find any for love nor money. Actually, I haven't tried love yet - but I am not sure it would go down well with tyre dealers...

I am assuming that the change from a 60 to a 55 aspect ratio is not going to cause major problems, as TVR did this themselves. To correct the circumference I should theoretcially use a 225 tyre, but I value my arms. Would I need to recalibrate the speedo which is already a little generous!? Rears are also an 'early' size (225/55 I think, instead of 50), but are a better tyre and can be replaced at a later date.

Anyone any further enlightenment?

hughjayteens

2,029 posts

284 months

Friday 5th April 2002
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I doubt that the radius of the fronts will affect the speedo as I think this runs off the gearbox, whoch drives the rear wheels, so only they can affect the reading...

manek

2,977 posts

300 months

Friday 5th April 2002
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picky mode on

Actually the speedo runs off the diff -- but otherwise that's right. The front wheels don't matter in that respect.

/picky mode off

>> Edited by manek on Friday 5th April 12:59

beljames

Original Poster:

285 posts

283 months

Friday 5th April 2002
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/dolt mode on

You mean there isn't a small pick-up wheel rubbing against the front drivers side tyre?

My Raleigh used to have one of these. I assumed that it would be the same.

Apologies for my ignorance! But - this will presumably be a consideration when I replace the rear tyres.

/dolt mode off.

>> Edited by beljames on Friday 5th April 13:29

MikeyT

17,451 posts

287 months

Friday 5th April 2002
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To correct the circumference I should theoretcially use a 225 tyre,



Apologies if I'm mistaken but isn't 225 the width. How can that change the rolling circumference?

beljames

Original Poster:

285 posts

283 months

Friday 5th April 2002
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I don't know anything about tyres really - I'm just going on the information on Steve's website where it says:

"As a rule of thumb, reducing the aspect ratio by 5% and increasing the tyre width by 20 mm will give you the same size circumference tyre to within a few mm. "

On the assumption that Steve knows considerably more about tyres than I do (i.e. that they are made of rubber) I took this on face value! I presume it has something to do with the calculation of the height (the 55 is a ratio not an absolute), and the height will affect the circumference - but thats just a guess!

GarryM

1,113 posts

299 months

Friday 5th April 2002
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The profile, 50, 55, 60 or whatever, is a percentage of the width so a wider tyre with the same profile figure produces a bigger diameter - hence circumference.

Regards.
Garry

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

285 months

Friday 5th April 2002
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Where the speedo pick-up is located is dependent on the gearbox. The early cars have the pick-up on the gearbox, when the gearox was changed the speedo pick-up moved to the diff.

My early Chim has bridgestone RE71s as originally fitted (not the original tyres though). If you wanted to fit a 55 rather than a 60 wouldn't the width increase to 215 ?

Bob

marlboro

637 posts

287 months

Friday 5th April 2002
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I've recently had SO3's fitted on my '96 4.0 Chim. 205/55Z15 front (£211) and 225/50Z16 rear (£269). This combination works well. The grip is amazing.