Stolen TVR Chimera TOY129W
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Hi guys,
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Please be on the lookout for above it was stolen from me by a local motor trader ( worcestershire) they have admitted taking the car and said they have spent the money, sue them and they will go bust, apparently they are well versed in this act, Police have an interest but are dragging their heels, it has recently been mot`d
Please keep your eyes open
Hi guys,
TOY129W
Please be on the lookout for above it was stolen from me by a local motor trader ( worcestershire) they have admitted taking the car and said they have spent the money, sue them and they will go bust, apparently they are well versed in this act, Police have an interest but are dragging their heels, car is marked as stolen on PNC, Had a recent MOT and change of ownership
Please keep your eyes open
Same people have also taken an Aston DB9 LK07CFA which hasnt been Mot`d since October
Please DM me i anyone has any info.
Thank you
Please DM me i anyone has any info.
Thank you
c
Please be on the lookout for above it was stolen from me by a local motor trader ( worcestershire) they have admitted taking the car and said they have spent the money, sue them and they will go bust, apparently they are well versed in this act, Police have an interest but are dragging their heels, it has recently been mot`d
Please keep your eyes open
Hi guys,
TOY129W
Please be on the lookout for above it was stolen from me by a local motor trader ( worcestershire) they have admitted taking the car and said they have spent the money, sue them and they will go bust, apparently they are well versed in this act, Police have an interest but are dragging their heels, car is marked as stolen on PNC, Had a recent MOT and change of ownership
Please keep your eyes open
Same people have also taken an Aston DB9 LK07CFA which hasnt been Mot`d since October
Please DM me i anyone has any info.
Thank you
Please DM me i anyone has any info.
Thank you
I'm curious. Did you ask them to sell the car for you or something? I would have thought if they had stolen it (taken without your consent with the intention to permanently deprive you of it) then the police would be very interested as would your insurance company.
If they were selling the car for you on a commission basis, then I'm guessing they haven't stolen the car, but the sale proceeds. Not quite the same thing.
Obviously if they have stolen the car and sold it on, then the new keeper has no legal title I assume?
Much, much more information required here.
If they were selling the car for you on a commission basis, then I'm guessing they haven't stolen the car, but the sale proceeds. Not quite the same thing.
Obviously if they have stolen the car and sold it on, then the new keeper has no legal title I assume?
Much, much more information required here.
Debbiesd said:
Well I’m the OP and it was stolen from me, so if you want any more info please DM me, only thing that stinks is the loss of two cars, I thought PH might be helpful.
Would be helpful if given more of the facts, drip feeding never works.Stolen car
Sale or return
What's the story.
mk1fan said:
Either way they are out of pocket - cash value of the car or the car itself - not a position any of use would seek to be in.
It's actually worse as there are 2 cars involved as the OP has another thread about an Aston Martin, which suffered the same fate. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
NicBowman said:
Hi, confusing.. can you not just inform your insurer? Stolen is covered. Nic
It may be a good question wether your insurance company will play ball if you have handed over both the car and presumably documents to dealer to support the sale of the car. Where do you stand then! That’s assuming the cars insured? O/P very sad to hear this and yes indeed Pistonheads goes far and covers many enthusiasts, some pictures of your TVR would help as anything coming up forsale tends to be seen by many of us over time.
It’s a long shot but as your appeal suggests your hoping we might see or come across it.
ETA ok I’ve found it on your other thread. Quite a distinctive colour.
Edited by Classic Chim on Wednesday 21st June 09:43
Edited by Classic Chim on Wednesday 21st June 09:45
Thanks guys.
Cars were collected by a local dealer, known to me and had been known to me on a business front for a few years, not well known but used to send clients to me. He asked me if I had anything for sale, i mentioned i may sell the two cars in question, he said he would collect both ( no documents were handed over) carry out an appraisal and we could discuss.
This was late 2022, Jan this year I chased to see what was happening as I had someone else interested in the Aston, he replied he had taken a deposit ( this was on a Thursday) I was very suprised as a price hadnt been agreed, I said i need the car back ( i was a bit worried by now) had a lot of avoiding cals and messages all weekend, then Tuesday morning had a notification of change of ownership from DVLA on the TVR, I went round to his unit and he had moved, went to his house, yes, you got it, has moved.....
Reported it to Police who were very helpful initially, he knows exactly what he is doing and was trying to turn it into a civil matter, I have had to chase and `bully` the police to keep the pressure on , with very little happening.
The TVR was not MOTd when change of ownership happened, However it was MOT`d and put on insurance database in late MAY, so the chances are someone has bought it.
Personally I believe he transferred ownership of TVR to see if I would Notice the transfer.
He has been very evasive since , he has ,however, admitted everything via a string of whattsapp messages.
The TVR is in use somewhere in the uk and the new owner is probably unaware its not their car, The Aston is still without MOT.
Im just asking for people to keep their eyes open.
I did hear a rumour and it is only a rumour, that the TVR is in Perth, Scotland.
im based in Worcestershire.
Thanks
Cars were collected by a local dealer, known to me and had been known to me on a business front for a few years, not well known but used to send clients to me. He asked me if I had anything for sale, i mentioned i may sell the two cars in question, he said he would collect both ( no documents were handed over) carry out an appraisal and we could discuss.
This was late 2022, Jan this year I chased to see what was happening as I had someone else interested in the Aston, he replied he had taken a deposit ( this was on a Thursday) I was very suprised as a price hadnt been agreed, I said i need the car back ( i was a bit worried by now) had a lot of avoiding cals and messages all weekend, then Tuesday morning had a notification of change of ownership from DVLA on the TVR, I went round to his unit and he had moved, went to his house, yes, you got it, has moved.....
Reported it to Police who were very helpful initially, he knows exactly what he is doing and was trying to turn it into a civil matter, I have had to chase and `bully` the police to keep the pressure on , with very little happening.
The TVR was not MOTd when change of ownership happened, However it was MOT`d and put on insurance database in late MAY, so the chances are someone has bought it.
Personally I believe he transferred ownership of TVR to see if I would Notice the transfer.
He has been very evasive since , he has ,however, admitted everything via a string of whattsapp messages.
The TVR is in use somewhere in the uk and the new owner is probably unaware its not their car, The Aston is still without MOT.
Im just asking for people to keep their eyes open.
I did hear a rumour and it is only a rumour, that the TVR is in Perth, Scotland.
im based in Worcestershire.
Thanks
At this point I’d contact both the TVRCC -Sprint magazine
And all TVR Facebook groups. Tvrcc used to have representatives all around the U.K. with local owners meets taking place regularly.
Get some decent pictures ( if you have any ) and get them plastered on social media and if this car comes up someone will recognise it.
Do you have any interior shots and engine bay.
Without doing a lot of work to disguise the colour and interior surely this car can be found and a trace to the seller.
Son of a b
h!
And all TVR Facebook groups. Tvrcc used to have representatives all around the U.K. with local owners meets taking place regularly.
Get some decent pictures ( if you have any ) and get them plastered on social media and if this car comes up someone will recognise it.
Do you have any interior shots and engine bay.
Without doing a lot of work to disguise the colour and interior surely this car can be found and a trace to the seller.
Son of a b
h! Debbiesd said:
Well I’m the OP and it was stolen from me, so if you want any more info please DM me, only thing that stinks is the loss of two cars, I thought PH might be helpful.
Well I owe you an apology, As I said "on the surface" with scant information in the op it raised my suspicions. Now there is more to go on clearly I was wrong and for that I apologise. I do hope you get some progress and I for one will keep my eyes peeled for you.If the police are not taking sufficient action, then you should turn it into a civil matter.
Your solicitor will be able to obtain details of the new keeper via the DVLA and you can pursue then for Return Of Goods, as they will not have a legal title to the vehicle. You can also pursue the rogue dealer.
I assume that you have not reported the car as stolen to your insurers, assuming that the car was insured? If you have, then you can report the new keeper's details to those insurers.
Your solicitor can also contact the new keeper's insurers, which is likely to lead to the cancellation of the cover as the car is stolen.
Your solicitor will be able to obtain details of the new keeper via the DVLA and you can pursue then for Return Of Goods, as they will not have a legal title to the vehicle. You can also pursue the rogue dealer.
I assume that you have not reported the car as stolen to your insurers, assuming that the car was insured? If you have, then you can report the new keeper's details to those insurers.
Your solicitor can also contact the new keeper's insurers, which is likely to lead to the cancellation of the cover as the car is stolen.
Can you DM the name of the SOR dealer so i avoid him? I think if you name him on here, it breaches PH's name & shame rules.
From what you've written, the TVR is not stolen, it now belongs to the new owner. You've just not been paid by the Dealer for goods you asked him to sell on your behalf. So the Police and Insurance Company won't be interested. If you didn't handover the V5, they might help.
Hope you can get the matter resolved.
EDITED TO ADD: It was offered around the Trade on 12 Oct 22. An Aston is visible in the accompanying pictures of the car.
From what you've written, the TVR is not stolen, it now belongs to the new owner. You've just not been paid by the Dealer for goods you asked him to sell on your behalf. So the Police and Insurance Company won't be interested. If you didn't handover the V5, they might help.
Hope you can get the matter resolved.
EDITED TO ADD: It was offered around the Trade on 12 Oct 22. An Aston is visible in the accompanying pictures of the car.
Edited by TVR-MADS on Wednesday 21st June 12:40
TVR-MADS - I think you need to read the OP's post from 10:05 today.
The new keeper is not the lawful owner of it. He has to acquired title to it, because the OP never consented to the dealer/agent/rogue selling it on his behalf, let alone the sale. The agent had no authority whatsoever to sell the vehicle to the new keeper on behalf of the OP.
The new keeper is not the lawful owner of it. He has to acquired title to it, because the OP never consented to the dealer/agent/rogue selling it on his behalf, let alone the sale. The agent had no authority whatsoever to sell the vehicle to the new keeper on behalf of the OP.
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