supercharged atom
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How reliable will the supercharged honda vtec enging in the atom be? The car will be used for 6-8 track days a year and weekend use weather permiting, thus perhaps 8000 miles a year.
I am still advertising my car for sale and not in a position to buy an atom yet. However deciding on spec well before purchase would be favourable to me.
I am still advertising my car for sale and not in a position to buy an atom yet. However deciding on spec well before purchase would be favourable to me.
True, Jon, but not in a Honda and certainly not in an engine that hasn't been seriously altered from its original setup to well beyond its capabilities.
In terms of reliability, the fact is that the supercharged Honda engine hasn't been fitted to enough Atoms for long enough to answer the question with any assurance. However, looking at other Honda forums that have people with experience of 'blown' R type engines, there doesn't seem to be a reliability problem.
Also, in general, the Ariel factory have a good record of sorting things out if they're inherently wrong with their own design or engineering. So you should have some comeback if it all goes tit-shaped.
In terms of reliability, the fact is that the supercharged Honda engine hasn't been fitted to enough Atoms for long enough to answer the question with any assurance. However, looking at other Honda forums that have people with experience of 'blown' R type engines, there doesn't seem to be a reliability problem.
Also, in general, the Ariel factory have a good record of sorting things out if they're inherently wrong with their own design or engineering. So you should have some comeback if it all goes tit-shaped.
Hi all,
Just out of interest, in the States the Jackson Performance Supercharger kit for the CTR and Accord Coupe has won several awards as a very sorted conversion.
The only points that seamed to be an issue is the tensioning system for the belts that Ariel didn't think where robust enough for a serious track day car. This has been replaced.
Also considering that this conversion is being offered with over 340 bhp from some tuners to pull around cars weighing 1,350 kg, I think with proper servicing it should be a 100,000 mile engine.
The biggest issue on servicing will be tyres!
Julian
Just out of interest, in the States the Jackson Performance Supercharger kit for the CTR and Accord Coupe has won several awards as a very sorted conversion.
The only points that seamed to be an issue is the tensioning system for the belts that Ariel didn't think where robust enough for a serious track day car. This has been replaced.
Also considering that this conversion is being offered with over 340 bhp from some tuners to pull around cars weighing 1,350 kg, I think with proper servicing it should be a 100,000 mile engine.
The biggest issue on servicing will be tyres!
Julian
For road use, no problem.
For Track days, an Ariel is not a CTR. On a CTR, the front wheels are spinning a lot with supercharged engine, so the "stress" is not on the engine or gearbox, but on the tyres. It's a bit different with the Ariel, the effort will be much higher on engine and gearbox, so i don't think it is actualy possible to know if the liability will be good or not on track days. Doing track days is not only coming during 2 hours on a cold track and saying Ok, good no problem today !
I hope Ariel had made some intensive tests during minimum of 3 full days on track with a good driver who will use the car to 100%. If not Meyrick will do that for us !
For Track days, an Ariel is not a CTR. On a CTR, the front wheels are spinning a lot with supercharged engine, so the "stress" is not on the engine or gearbox, but on the tyres. It's a bit different with the Ariel, the effort will be much higher on engine and gearbox, so i don't think it is actualy possible to know if the liability will be good or not on track days. Doing track days is not only coming during 2 hours on a cold track and saying Ok, good no problem today !
I hope Ariel had made some intensive tests during minimum of 3 full days on track with a good driver who will use the car to 100%. If not Meyrick will do that for us !
hi guys been away for a while on buisness but back now seems to be alot more activity on the forham at the mo mostly thanks to top gear i expect.
any how my cars going great no major probs ive done two track days in mine only minor faults found
1: leacked fuel under heavy cornering but fixed thanks to higher breather pipe
2: fuel injector got blocked but fixed thanks to inline fuel filter
3: indicator housing came lose fixed thanks to bruce and his magic bag of bits.
apart from that have had no problems. mine is only 275 supercharged version. have had a chat to tom and its going to cost £3000 to upgrade to 300 BHP version trying to diside if its worthwhile. very intrested to here your thoughts espesaly JP as he recomends the honda ECU over the one i have at the moment,but will it improve £3000 worth.
cheers guys nice to be back going to work through my 389 e mails now.
any how my cars going great no major probs ive done two track days in mine only minor faults found
1: leacked fuel under heavy cornering but fixed thanks to higher breather pipe
2: fuel injector got blocked but fixed thanks to inline fuel filter
3: indicator housing came lose fixed thanks to bruce and his magic bag of bits.
apart from that have had no problems. mine is only 275 supercharged version. have had a chat to tom and its going to cost £3000 to upgrade to 300 BHP version trying to diside if its worthwhile. very intrested to here your thoughts espesaly JP as he recomends the honda ECU over the one i have at the moment,but will it improve £3000 worth.
cheers guys nice to be back going to work through my 389 e mails now.
Booked for first week in Feb, but Tom made th highly seditious comment that we could have a new one for virtually the same as selling our one and the price we are paying for the upgrade, so we are having a quick think about whether we want to sell our one and buy an off the shelf supercharged one. Pluses and minuses both ways: new ones have fresh tyres of course . . .
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