New GTS-R

[N GTS]

A bit of all white,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

1/2 hour long discussion interview with Ralph Gilles on vision of SRT and Viper...
http://www.autoline.tv/show/1629

[neilsfishing]

[MADMAX-UK]

Thanks Nad.

[Dr-Bob]

would look good in the 52 or 53 colours...

[Viper_Larry]

If it wasn't for the in car shots, that would look like a GT5 game trailer!

[VIPERLESS]

It's been a long time coming but at last Le Mans will see the return of the GTS'R after a whole decade .....BUT....shame on you Dodge WHY WHY WHY did you let Corvette steal your crown. I think 2013 will be the start of the payback years. You can run but you can't hide Mr Corvette....Mr Viper's gonna come looking for you soon on a race track in France Can't wait!...........Let Battle commence

[Gixer]

Yes but Corvette and others had to comply and fit the correct size engine. How is Viper allowed to run an oversized block? Restricted or not, it still dosent comply to the rules.

Be good to see Viper back at Le Mans though

[Viper]

its going to have a different engine for LM'13 24H

[zs]

isn't the new GT-E class unrestricted?

[VIPERLESS]

Gixer said:

Yes but Corvette and others had to comply and fit the correct size engine. How is Viper allowed to run an oversized block? Restricted or not, it still dosent comply to the rules.

Be good to see Viper back at Le Mans though

Introducing the New GTS-R

A factory-backed Viper will race on the world stage again. Based on the all-new 2013 Viper, the Viper GTS-R reemerges in 2012. The competition-spec 2013 Viper will compete this year as part of a two-car team in the American Le Mans Series (ALMS), the same series that Viper dominated in 2000.

The new GTS-R is built for three things: speed, reliability and durability. The GTS-R is all about winning endurance races, such as the Petit Le Mans, a 10-hour race at Road Atlanta in Georgia, and the 24-hours of Le Mans in France. It's also built to run shorter races in the ALMS, generally two hours in duration. The GTS-R will run in the GT class against Ferrari, Porsche, BMW and Corvette among others.

Yep....how ever you cut it Brett it look like Mr Fangs is gonna be kicking Vette butt in 2013! and lets be honest folks....a Viper v Vette battle on the tracks is what we all want. I just hope the Dodge Racing Department has got large enough trophy cabinets......but Le Mans could be 2014? me thinks.....

[VIPERLESS]

Viper said:

its going to have a different engine for LM'13 24H

WOW!!! You know everything!!! I am not worthy! Does this prospect of Viper racing at Le Mans indicate a Club "tour" like we did in 2002? Come on Neil you know you want to! (Hey Baz...if your reading this are you getting my mails?

[Dr-Bob]

Yes mate all posted .....
Neil knows so much.......

[Viper]

Dr-Bob said:

Yes mate all posted .....
Neil knows so much.......

its not all about what you know, it also who you know and what they know LOL

Edited by Viper on Monday 16th July 19:56

[robmlufc]

Viper said:

its going to have a different engine for LM'13 24H

I thought it was running with an ACO waiver?

[vetteheadracer]

Tommy Kendall joins SRT

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/alms-kendal...

On the engine subject they are debuting at Mid Ohio next month (hoping to be there) and will run a 8.0L V10 but the waiver won't allow them to run at Le Mans I don't think only the ALMS.

None of the other manufacturers will want SRT to join the party unless they play by the rules i.e. 5.5L maximum.

These are part of the ACO Rules for GTE cars (Engines) for this season. Article 5.4.1 is the critical one also Dodge / Riley / SRT need to be building a 5.5L V10 front mounted engine as that is also in the rules and until they deliver 2500 Viper road cars they can't move the engine down or back in the chassis too.

ART. 5 - ENGINE
5.1 - Type and location :
5.1.1 - The original engine shall maintain its original location,
orientation and position. However it can be :
lowered in compliance with the article 5.1.2. below ;
moved backward (*) provided the chassis and the
dimensions of the cockpit are not modified ;
(*) This modification is permitted only for cars produced in
more than 2500 units (with identical external general lines
of the bodywork) in twelve consecutive months. It must be
approved by the ACO (Homologation form).
5.1.2 - It is permitted to change the engine mountings but
without modifying :
their position excepted when the engine can be moved
backward (see Art. 5.1.1. above) ;
the main structure which may be reinforced in the mountings
area.
5.1.3. – Only for cars with a "transaxle" transmission system, the
torque tube may be removed and replaced with additional
engine and/or transmission supports. The new supports must
be homologated as well as the local modifications to the
chassis / bodyshell necessary for their fitting.
5.2 - Modifications :
5.2.1 – Cylinder block, cylinder head(s), valve angles, firing
order, number and location of camshafts : they must remain
original, as they are fitted on the series vehicle. The firing
order is free.
5.2.2 - The adding of material to the cylinder block or cylinder
head(s) is not permitted. Intake and exhaust manifolds are
free but they must be supported on the original cylinder
head gasket face.
5.2.3 – Cylinder heads may be modified by machining, provided
that the original part remains identifiable. The valve tappet
guides may be fitted with sleeves if not originally. The
cylinder block may be modified by machining :
• for the modification of the bore or for sleeving if the
original block is not fitted with sleeves.
• Below the horizontal plane passing through the axle of
the crankshaft bearings for the mounting of the dry
sump.
The material of the engine sleeves is free.
The oil sump is free and may include the crankshaft bearing
caps.
5.2.4 –Lubrication holes, injectors holes may be modified or
closed :
• The use of hélicoils is permitted.
5.2.5. – The elements fixed on the cylinder block and cylinder
head(s) (crankshaft, connecting rods, pistons, camshafts,
intake manifold, etc. ) are free but they must be in
compliance with the articles 5.2.1. to 5.2.4. above. The
weight of the crankshaft must not be less than more than
10% from the original (titanium forbidden).
5.2.6 - Are forbidden save on the road car available for sale :
• Variable valve timing (*) • Variable length/diameter inlet
systems (*) • Direct injection (*) • Variable geometry
turbo/superchargers (*) • Titanium apart from connecting
rods, valves and valve retainers, heat shields • Magnesium
apart from standard production mechanical parts which are
described in the ACO Homologation form • Ceramic
components • Carbon or composite materials, except used
in clutches and non stressed covers, lids or ducts.
(*) These devices cannot be modified, but they can be
neutralised or removed.
5.3 - Throttle :
Only a direct mechanical linkage (rod, cable) is permitted
between the throttle pedal and the fuel supply control system (air
and/or fuel) of the engine.
If the original car is fitted with a system without a mechanical
linkage, this system may be retained but not modified.
5.4 - Normally aspirated engines :
5.4.1 - Displacement : 5500 cc maximum.

[zs]

thanks Nigel.. Is the limit any bigger in the GT1?

[VIPERLESS]

I'm getting the feeling these "Corvette Fans" are kacking themselves at the thought of a Viper SLEDGE HAMMER steam rolling them off the tracks! It always shows fear and denial when you get "article this and rule that" quoted at you.
This is how I see it.....Viper starts racing in 2013 (regardless off rule book bks) and punts Corvette back into touch, after all... they only came to the party when Viper was bowing out of racing after winning just about everything and hence leaving Corvette an empty playing field (Ferrari had a go in 03/04/05 and then Aston in 06 onwards.
No....theirs no getting away from the fact....however you cut it....VIPER SRThasn't been created for a bit of expensive PR....it's been created to sweep all this Aston, Fezza, Corvette tumbleweed into touch. Nuff said.....I rest my case m'lord
(Just waiting for the some of the top Corvette Racing boys to jump ship next, they know it makes sence)

[neilsfishing]

VIPERLESS said:

I'm getting the feeling these "Corvette Fans" are kacking themselves at the thought of a Viper SLEDGE HAMMER steam rolling them off the tracks! It always shows fear and denial when you get "article this and rule that" quoted at you.
This is how I see it.....Viper starts racing in 2013 (regardless off rule book bks) and punts Corvette back into touch, after all... they only came to the party when Viper was bowing out of racing after winning just about everything and hence leaving Corvette an empty playing field (Ferrari had a go in 03/04/05 and then Aston in 06 onwards.
No....theirs no getting away from the fact....however you cut it....VIPER SRThasn't been created for a bit of expensive PR....it's been created to sweep all this Aston, Fezza, Corvette tumbleweed into touch. Nuff said.....I rest my case m'lord
(Just waiting for the some of the top Corvette Racing boys to jump ship next, they know it makes sence)

[robmlufc]

I was under the impression that the ACO waiver would let them run at Le Mans 2013, with the big rule changes for 2014 allowing larger engines all round.

[vetteheadracer]

robmlufc said:

I was under the impression that the ACO waiver would let them run at Le Mans 2013, with the big rule changes for 2014 allowing larger engines all round.

Be very surprised if ACO reversed it's trend of smaller more efficient engines just to allow one "dinosaur" to be resurrected.........more likely if SRT are serious rather than just a flash in the pan marketing exercise they will have to do as Corvette did and reduce their engine capacity to meet the rules.