SRT10 IVA HELP
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Got the one on the lower left of the windscreen but this is a plate riveted to the vehicle for IVA the test centre say it need to be stamperd into the chassis.
The viper registry only seem to show the location for RT10s.
I have had the car up on the ramp and cannot seem to find it anywhere, anybody have any thoughts were it may be.
The viper registry only seem to show the location for RT10s.
I have had the car up on the ramp and cannot seem to find it anywhere, anybody have any thoughts were it may be.
yep, stamped in VIN is not needed on vipers with FMVSS
section 18 note 7 page 149
Phone Swansea yourself to confirm understanding, I found them very helpful with the ACR and its aero and when the IVA tester who wasn't sure called them during the test, he got the same bloke (the guy who wrote the manual) who gave him the same answer he gave me and I was issued a pass certificate, just make sure you get the name of who you speak to in Swansea and hope its Steve IIRC, and name drop at the test centre.
iva manual said:
Note 7: For Mass produced North American Vehicles approved with either FMVSS or CMVSS no stamped in VIN is required, a visible VIN seen through the windscreen will be acceptable,
IVA manualsection 18 note 7 page 149
Phone Swansea yourself to confirm understanding, I found them very helpful with the ACR and its aero and when the IVA tester who wasn't sure called them during the test, he got the same bloke (the guy who wrote the manual) who gave him the same answer he gave me and I was issued a pass certificate, just make sure you get the name of who you speak to in Swansea and hope its Steve IIRC, and name drop at the test centre.
Edited by ViperDave on Sunday 15th April 20:13
When I confirmed the test date I spoke with one of the examiners and he told me to make sure the vin number was stamped onto the chassis other wise it would fail.
I will take the above details and challenge them if they try to fail it, fingers crossed it goes well.
Thanks for your help
J
I will take the above details and challenge them if they try to fail it, fingers crossed it goes well.
Thanks for your help
J
if your test station is saying that I'd definitely speak to Swansea first and if their view differs from the test station get the station to call Swansea when they try and fail. It is unlikely you will change the mind of a tester, you can try with a copy of the manual but your best bet is to get them to ask Swansea to clarify, that's easier if you have confidence they will agree with you.
Do you know where your FMVSS labels are and emission stickers? FMVSS should be on the drivers door and say something like "meets all federal regulations at the time of manufacture" the emissions should be on a label at the rear of the engine compartment on the inner fender/firewall.
The better prepared you are with such information and looking like you know the rules the more likely they are going to make sure they are right when they fail. The guy before me was shown the manual and why they failed his, I was shown the clause in the manual that allowed my splitter and wing. I knew it was there but they seemed keen to show the evidence they were basing a decision on. Of course that was only one tester at the yearding station.
Also make sure you have read the requirements to enter the test. my lot seemed to really appreciate that i had, and turned up with a full tank of fuel and had tools available in a separate vehicle when they asked to see the battery and i was in a position to remove the cover and they could spend 3 seconds seeing it was secure!
Best way to approach it though is you are going to get the list of things you have to sort for the re-test, then when they issue a pass your well chuffed.
Which test station are you going to?
Do you know where your FMVSS labels are and emission stickers? FMVSS should be on the drivers door and say something like "meets all federal regulations at the time of manufacture" the emissions should be on a label at the rear of the engine compartment on the inner fender/firewall.
The better prepared you are with such information and looking like you know the rules the more likely they are going to make sure they are right when they fail. The guy before me was shown the manual and why they failed his, I was shown the clause in the manual that allowed my splitter and wing. I knew it was there but they seemed keen to show the evidence they were basing a decision on. Of course that was only one tester at the yearding station.
Also make sure you have read the requirements to enter the test. my lot seemed to really appreciate that i had, and turned up with a full tank of fuel and had tools available in a separate vehicle when they asked to see the battery and i was in a position to remove the cover and they could spend 3 seconds seeing it was secure!
Best way to approach it though is you are going to get the list of things you have to sort for the re-test, then when they issue a pass your well chuffed.
Which test station are you going to?
The car is booked into Newcastle test station, I have put a viper through there before but this was some years ago when the test was SVA.
I always take a selection of tools and as much info as possible, I will arm myself with a copy of the manual as well.
Fog lights done, side repeaters and side lights. The car need s a full tank of fuel and all the labels previously mentioned are fitted to the vehicle.
I will study the manual tomorrow to see if there is anything I have missed.
What about head lights? does the beam need adjusting.
Cheers
I always take a selection of tools and as much info as possible, I will arm myself with a copy of the manual as well.
Fog lights done, side repeaters and side lights. The car need s a full tank of fuel and all the labels previously mentioned are fitted to the vehicle.
I will study the manual tomorrow to see if there is anything I have missed.
What about head lights? does the beam need adjusting.
Cheers
Sorry, your post started to sound like you were a commercial importer and whilst i don't mind spending time helping an enthusiast i may be tempted to invoice a consultancy fee for someone making money out of the advice if they aren't being up front about who they are etc.
There are a whole bunch of extra requirements for LED and gas discharge (HID) lights in section 25 of the manual which i doubt a viper will pass especially if you don't have documentation to support that they comply with EEC regulations as i don't think they are e marked for a start. it boils down to HID's will need self leveling and washers. The guy who went before me failed his CTS as he didn't have the leveling required or at least he couldn't prove he did.
Bottom line is its easier to pull the HID bulbs and fit halogens. I cant remember what bulb no i used, it could have been H7, but i had to make a retaining spring clip from piano wire to hold the bulb in the HID holder, it wasn't perfect but it held it secure enough. Just wire the bulb into the feed for the HID ballast, I cut the wires so that things could be put back later (wouldn't dream of such a thing lol) and removed the ballast etc.
There are a whole bunch of extra requirements for LED and gas discharge (HID) lights in section 25 of the manual which i doubt a viper will pass especially if you don't have documentation to support that they comply with EEC regulations as i don't think they are e marked for a start. it boils down to HID's will need self leveling and washers. The guy who went before me failed his CTS as he didn't have the leveling required or at least he couldn't prove he did.
Bottom line is its easier to pull the HID bulbs and fit halogens. I cant remember what bulb no i used, it could have been H7, but i had to make a retaining spring clip from piano wire to hold the bulb in the HID holder, it wasn't perfect but it held it secure enough. Just wire the bulb into the feed for the HID ballast, I cut the wires so that things could be put back later (wouldn't dream of such a thing lol) and removed the ballast etc.
A big thanks to ViperDave
I got an IVA pass today only just though!
They asked were the stamped VIN was, when I said it didn’t have one they were going to fail it there and then until I mentioned Dave’s comments above and reference to the M1 manual and FFVSS for North American vehicles.
Head lights they were going to fail it as the beam wasn’t flat enough, until further delving into the IVA manual to clarify the beam pattern for USA vehicles, this is different to other EU vehicles and the legislation has been relaxed.
Alarm again nearly a fail until he verified a number on the back of the key fob that confirmed it was FFVSS compliant.
Fogs light again nearly a fail as it was operational via sidelight and only needs to operational via dipped beam.
LED side lights done the job (E marked) and E marked fog light.
I got an IVA pass today only just though!
They asked were the stamped VIN was, when I said it didn’t have one they were going to fail it there and then until I mentioned Dave’s comments above and reference to the M1 manual and FFVSS for North American vehicles.
Head lights they were going to fail it as the beam wasn’t flat enough, until further delving into the IVA manual to clarify the beam pattern for USA vehicles, this is different to other EU vehicles and the legislation has been relaxed.
Alarm again nearly a fail until he verified a number on the back of the key fob that confirmed it was FFVSS compliant.
Fogs light again nearly a fail as it was operational via sidelight and only needs to operational via dipped beam.
LED side lights done the job (E marked) and E marked fog light.
your welcome and glad you had a positive outcome, sounds like you got a real knobber tester though, hopefully he went away to read the manual lol.
Sounds like you dodged a bullet on the fogs though as he probably could have failed on that but probably though he didn't want to risk coming back from the manual with his tail between his legs again
Now you have the dilemma of rush down the dvla to get it registered or wait till 1st may and not waste a month tax. Hope you dont have the same problem as i did with my cover note running out on the 31st and i had already had a 7 day extension so had to get on with it and lost a month of tax, especially as it snowed the day after i had my plates made up and it took 2 weeks to melt
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