MOT and Race cans
Discussion
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)will pass you on the noise test if you just ahem......bring the standard pipe along with you strapped to the seat like My Ducati has passed the last 3 MOT tests with the Termignoni race cans on, the place that do it (shop in Nottingham) are 'realistic' and seem to have no issue with race cans, KPH speedos or even headlights that dip the wrong way (have converted them now though) but they are right on all the 'safety' items.
I think most places probably follow the rules and would not pass it, but even if that's the case it's not much of a job to swap for the MOT.
I think most places probably follow the rules and would not pass it, but even if that's the case it's not much of a job to swap for the MOT.
I kinda now the blokes through work friends that run the MOT place I would take it to, Shall probably give em a call first and ask like you say.
I didnt realise that they test the noise level???? if so why dont they do it on cars, trucks etc. and if tehy dont then surely the race can will be ok??
I didnt realise that they test the noise level???? if so why dont they do it on cars, trucks etc. and if tehy dont then surely the race can will be ok??
[quote=Ballistic Banana]
I didnt realise that they test the noise level????quote]
I don't think they actually test the noise, just look at the can and see if it is 'legal'.
A few years ago I took a bike for an MOT and regarding noise the guy asked me to start it so he could hear it (he couldn't start it as the left side kickstart/high compression certainly required the 'knack') anyway his only words were 'ferkin hell, thats loud!' but he passed it because, as he said that there was a legal noise level of 'xx'db (can't remember the figure) but as they didn't give him a meter to measure it how could he know? (it was a very loud bike BTW
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It does seem unfair though that sportsbike owners can get hassled for noise, whereas Harley-D riders, TVR drivers and HGV operators get away with it
I didnt realise that they test the noise level????quote]
I don't think they actually test the noise, just look at the can and see if it is 'legal'.
A few years ago I took a bike for an MOT and regarding noise the guy asked me to start it so he could hear it (he couldn't start it as the left side kickstart/high compression certainly required the 'knack') anyway his only words were 'ferkin hell, thats loud!' but he passed it because, as he said that there was a legal noise level of 'xx'db (can't remember the figure) but as they didn't give him a meter to measure it how could he know? (it was a very loud bike BTW
) It does seem unfair though that sportsbike owners can get hassled for noise, whereas Harley-D riders, TVR drivers and HGV operators get away with it
On a more serious note, I have had a question bugging me for a while on the topic of Race cans. I have 45mm Termignoni's fitted to the Duke that are not road legal obviously. The have no kite mark, E stamp or anything else to prove the they are fit for the road. How do insurance companies view the use of these types of can. As far as I know they will void your policy in any event of a claim due to the fact that the bike will not pass an MOT. So if numpty 15yr old slips on his skateboard in front of me as I am riding along and I run over his head, killing him outright; I stand to bear the brunt of the compensation to his family? I have been getting more concerned about this recently. Has anyone had any experience of these circumstances??
Veetwin
Although your bike may not have an MOT due to saucy cans, I think the insurance company will probably look to see if the non-conformity of the exhausts had any bearing on the bus queue you ploughed through. I can't see how they can refuse a payout. The insurance company also has a duty of care. Even though they may choose to void your policy (in terms of compensation for your bike), I think that if (when) the case went to court, they would probably still be liable for third party losses. There have been numerous cases of this nature, with most of the burden falling upon the ins companies in this type of example.
Also, the MOT is only really technically valid for the day upon which it is issued....
Why not spend the 30 mins or so putting the ducati standard pea shooters back on for the MOT - then you have one.
>> Edited by fergus on Tuesday 17th February 09:24
Although your bike may not have an MOT due to saucy cans, I think the insurance company will probably look to see if the non-conformity of the exhausts had any bearing on the bus queue you ploughed through. I can't see how they can refuse a payout. The insurance company also has a duty of care. Even though they may choose to void your policy (in terms of compensation for your bike), I think that if (when) the case went to court, they would probably still be liable for third party losses. There have been numerous cases of this nature, with most of the burden falling upon the ins companies in this type of example.
Also, the MOT is only really technically valid for the day upon which it is issued....
Why not spend the 30 mins or so putting the ducati standard pea shooters back on for the MOT - then you have one.
>> Edited by fergus on Tuesday 17th February 09:24
veetwin said:
I have 45mm Termignoni's fitted to the Duke that are not road legal obviously. The have no kite mark, E stamp or anything else to prove the they are fit for the road.
The Termignonis (should) have 'Race Use Only' stamped on the strip that is riveted on the front (entry end) of the can, 'strangely' it is in such a place (top of the band) that it can not be seen whilst they are fitted to the bike as they are covered by the underseat heat guard.
[warningmode] if you mirror polish the cans then this writing has a 'tendency' to wear off [/warningmode]
Not that I would condone this if done deliberately but if it happened by 'accident' then what can you do about it?
Also there are people who sell new 'rivet bands' with the appropriate 'E' or 'BS' numbers stamped on them, I suppose you could stamp them yourself. I don't know what the law would think of this practice but I wouldn't think it would really make any difference as I'm sure you could still get 'nicked' for a 'defective' exhaust if plod thought it was too loud.
Ballistic Banana said:
Do they normally pass with the race cans on or do you have to put the quiet one back on??
I always take my bikes to small workshops/MOT places, that are typically staffed by enthusiasts. Never had a bike refused an MOT because of a race can. If I have one, I also bring along a photo of the bike with the original can, which sometimes helps with the "I could go home, swap the cans, and be back in an hour - but that would waste both of our times" conversation.
Gixxer.
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