Supermoto’s faster round corners than supper spor
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Some one told me that supermoto’s are faster than supper sports at tight corners. I can’t see how that’s possible. 
I ride a GSXR750 and go round em quick and I cant imagine a supermoto taking me this has to be wrong. 
I guess if the supper sports rider is a spanky it might be possible but really, If equally skilled riders were to test it would a supermoto dust a my GSXR….. 
What say the panel
I ride a GSXR750 and go round em quick and I cant imagine a supermoto taking me this has to be wrong. I guess if the supper sports rider is a spanky it might be possible but really, If equally skilled riders were to test it would a supermoto dust a my GSXR….. What say the panel
but what about a 60 mph knee scraper corner will they still be able to do my GSXR
Where do you get this 90mph maxed out thing from? I've seen 120 from a motard. And to answer your question, yes you would get a royal spanking if you tried it on with any half decent motard rider. The only place a sports bike has the advantage is on fast sweepers as the sportsbike can use it's power and speed to make up for the motards cornering ability.
would like 100 + mph max and a greater than 60 miles tank range. would like to use it off and on road 
Bike magazine did an interesting test on this. They compared an R1 with a top of the line supermotard (think it was a KTM) down 5 miles of windy B road. Both bikes were ridden by a road racer and a supermoto racer. The R1 was waaay faster (I can't remember the exact times but the R1 was very significantly faster). Basically the corner speeds on the tighter bends were similar but the R1 killed the supermoto on the brakes, acceleration and slightly more open corners.
This was the answer i was looking for im a happy man 
mikeyh said:
Sure - but I'm not sure how a 160bhp supermoto would handle! I think they were going for average supermoto v average sports bike.
No, what they did was panic that their precious sportsbikes were going to get thrashed my a motard so opted for the R1. If they had gone for a like for like capacity (the average being a 600) then things would have been a little more interesting. Not that it matters anyway because I've embarresed far too many sportsbike riders (including R1 riders) to be interested in a biased road test by Bonk magazine.
spanktrumpet said:
Some one told me that supermoto’s are faster than supper sports at tight corners. I can’t see how that’s possible.
There are a couple of reasons that it MIGHT be true.
One is that supermotos are very light. This means that they can use extremely sticky rubber, without chewing it up, or cooking it. This alone could give a greater apex speed.
The second reason is that, for most of us, ultimate corner speed has a lot more to do with confidence and feeling than with how close we really are to the absolute limit. On a light bike, with an upright riding position, and compliant suspension, I find it pretty believable that the rider can corner harder than on the superbike, where you need to be pretty good to get the best from it.
When I rode a 'Blade, I rode it as hard as I could. I was shocked to find that this was less hard in the corners than I could do on my dirt bike, Despite being among the quicker rriders on a track like Brands on my 'Blade, I was quicker still on a supermoto than on the Honda.
mikeyh said:
Bike magazine did an interesting test on this. They compared an R1 with a top of the line supermotard (think it was a KTM) down 5 miles of windy B road. Both bikes were ridden by a road racer and a supermoto racer. The R1 was waaay faster (I can't remember the exact times but the R1 was very significantly faster). Basically the corner speeds on the tighter bends were similar but the R1 killed the supermoto on the brakes, acceleration and slightly more open corners.
One reason that this was a bit unfair is that supermotos, in general, are made from MX bikes. The "factory" ones are about 40kg too heavt, and 30% underpowered. It's hard to come up with a "fair" test, as a run of the mill fast supermoto has been built by its owner, not picked from the shelf.
I'm with hertsbiker on this one.
Supersport bikes are built to go quickly both in a straight line and around corners. Even on a bumpy back road when, say a GSXR600, is slapping badly under power or getting in a twist under braking, it's still on at least a par with the supermoto so long as you still apply the rules of riding a bike briskly, i.e. stay on the gas. I even found that a less powerful road bike like the SV650 will happily keep up with supermotos all day, though they don't wheelie quite so well.
Supersport bikes are built to go quickly both in a straight line and around corners. Even on a bumpy back road when, say a GSXR600, is slapping badly under power or getting in a twist under braking, it's still on at least a par with the supermoto so long as you still apply the rules of riding a bike briskly, i.e. stay on the gas. I even found that a less powerful road bike like the SV650 will happily keep up with supermotos all day, though they don't wheelie quite so well.
but its fair to say that supamoto bikes are very fast and can give a sports bike a run for there money if not beat em 
nyah nyah. How I laugh. I miss bikes, any bike will do, even a manky supermoto. Sigh. 3.5 months to go, and I'll be back. Even though I said I wouldn't. I have hated almost every minute of being bikeless. My fast car is very very fast indeed, but so what. Oh I am drunk and shouldn't be posting here but I know its gonna happen next year. Its the only thing making it worth while. Supersport Yamazuki please. Christ this is becoming a cyclical event. Sell up, buy new. Arghh! I can't afford it, but I can't afford NOT to have a bike. My sanity depends on it. My soul is crying out for a bike. Once a biker.... always a biker. F*** being hypocritical, I know I said I quit, but I can't. Cold turkey is killing me.
bennyboysvuk said:
I'm with hertsbiker on this one.
Supersport bikes are built to go quickly both in a straight line and around corners. Even on a bumpy back road when, say a GSXR600, is slapping badly under power or getting in a twist under braking, it's still on at least a par with the supermoto so long as you still apply the rules of riding a bike briskly, i.e. stay on the gas. I even found that a less powerful road bike like the SV650 will happily keep up with supermotos all day, though they don't wheelie quite so well.
Yes, they're built to corner very hard, but is that how you ride yours? Do you regularly scrape your can and your elbows? I strongly susppect that a lot of us can't get near the limits of a sportsbike on the roads, but can get a lot closer to the limits of a bike like a supermoto.
Of course, the reason most of us buy supermotos is very little to du with ultimate apex speed. It's because they are fun. I really do recommend that every biker try one at least once, and a proper one, based on a very light offroad machine, with a decently powerful engine.
Even if it's slower than your R1, 'Blade or whatever down a particular piece of road, you might well find yourself enjoying it more.
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