I rode in shorts & a t shirt...
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Normaly i am the most vocal of the always wearing leathers crew.
However yesterday I'm working out side all day digging up the driveway and to say I was a bit hot is an understatement, I was sweating even more than a peodophile at a swimming gala
Anyway I had to go 2 miles across town in 30 & 40mph limits to drop bike off at mot station.
So I thought sod it if I put on my leathers Im actually gunna pass out and seeing I i ride my mountain bike at a similar speed down hill with sod all protection ill do the same on me motorbike. ( I did wear my gloves tho, just in case oh and a helmet obiously)
Well all I can say is that it felt fantastic, as rather than feeling like I was being cooked & being very hot & irritable it was a really enjoyable ride and I dont think I've ever enjoyed doing a max of 35mph quite as much!
I always think when I spot people doing as I did that they are mental, but most of us wouldnt think twice about doing it on holiday on a moped and riding through a small uk town is much safer than (for example)roding a moped on gravel strewn greek island roads.
Course on the way back (she passed MOT yippee
) I forget I'm not in leathers and and get a sweet 1 foot of air as I yump over a mini roundabout and then hoist the front wheel up over a bridge as I pass a camera crew filming the congestion on the local bypass below, (I think the scream from the race can as the engine hit the limter deafened the sound man 
) so I probably wont be doing the lack of leather thing again for my own safety due to my lack of self restraint
However yesterday I'm working out side all day digging up the driveway and to say I was a bit hot is an understatement, I was sweating even more than a peodophile at a swimming gala
Anyway I had to go 2 miles across town in 30 & 40mph limits to drop bike off at mot station.
So I thought sod it if I put on my leathers Im actually gunna pass out and seeing I i ride my mountain bike at a similar speed down hill with sod all protection ill do the same on me motorbike. ( I did wear my gloves tho, just in case oh and a helmet obiously)
Well all I can say is that it felt fantastic, as rather than feeling like I was being cooked & being very hot & irritable it was a really enjoyable ride and I dont think I've ever enjoyed doing a max of 35mph quite as much!
I always think when I spot people doing as I did that they are mental, but most of us wouldnt think twice about doing it on holiday on a moped and riding through a small uk town is much safer than (for example)roding a moped on gravel strewn greek island roads.
Course on the way back (she passed MOT yippee
) I forget I'm not in leathers and and get a sweet 1 foot of air as I yump over a mini roundabout and then hoist the front wheel up over a bridge as I pass a camera crew filming the congestion on the local bypass below, (I think the scream from the race can as the engine hit the limter deafened the sound man ) so I probably wont be doing the lack of leather thing again for my own safety due to my lack of self restraint That's very naughty 
but I'm not remotely concerned at what others do on their bikes providing it doesn't affect me. Just take care, 'coz we'd be upset if you got pureed.
FWIW:
Burn through time (2mm bovine leather, modern tanned, abrasive profile=asphalt, 70mph): 11 seconds
Burn through time (Denim, no additional protection, abrasive profile=asphalt, 70mph): 3 seconds
Burn through time (Cotton t-shirting, no additional protection, abrasive profile=asphalt, 70mph): instantaneous
Typical time to stop, 70mph, non-tumbling impact: 9 seconds.
Makes leathers seem pretty appealing
but I'm not remotely concerned at what others do on their bikes providing it doesn't affect me. Just take care, 'coz we'd be upset if you got pureed. FWIW:
Burn through time (2mm bovine leather, modern tanned, abrasive profile=asphalt, 70mph): 11 seconds
Burn through time (Denim, no additional protection, abrasive profile=asphalt, 70mph): 3 seconds
Burn through time (Cotton t-shirting, no additional protection, abrasive profile=asphalt, 70mph): instantaneous
Typical time to stop, 70mph, non-tumbling impact: 9 seconds.
Makes leathers seem pretty appealing
Having slated people who wear shorts and a T-shirt, i could be called a hypocrite for saying this. I ride for a number of reasons one is the element of danger? Rideing a bike quickly (my quick anyway ) makes me feel great, gets the adrenaline running.
So riding in shorts etc is more dangerious, is it more of a buzz? You could say the consiquences are inconsiderate for others? So is riding at 110mph, 150mph considerate? Loud cans are they considerate?
I have a loud can, and ride at speed. If you enjoyed it old son good luck, enjoy.
) makes me feel great, gets the adrenaline running. So riding in shorts etc is more dangerious, is it more of a buzz? You could say the consiquences are inconsiderate for others? So is riding at 110mph, 150mph considerate? Loud cans are they considerate?
I have a loud can, and ride at speed. If you enjoyed it old son good luck, enjoy
.I agree that leathers should always be worn and went out fully leathered up for a 2 hour blast today in the 5000 degree midday-sun, despite almost fainting before unlocking the garage
But, I found a disused dual-carriageway before and went for a slow blast along it without a helmet on and in a t-shirt and it felt great
I know it was naughty and I won't do it again, but sometimes to experience something different is worth a little more risk
But, I found a disused dual-carriageway before and went for a slow blast along it without a helmet on and in a t-shirt and it felt great
I know it was naughty and I won't do it again, but sometimes to experience something different is worth a little more risk
FFS, I have recently seen a few posts about bikers not wearing the gear and even about other bikers not ackowledging them if not suitably dressed.
Surely biking is about being free, if you feel otherwise go and join Nu-Labour & if you insist on correct attire then take up Golf.
It sounds like a bunch of naughty kids discussing what's a 'naughty' thing to do to - I know let's ride a bike without a back protector Ooooh :scary:
Has no-one ever ridden without all the gear? I usually wear all the gear but have ridden in as little as shorts and sunglasses.
And yes I've fallen off without a helmet, in fact I've done lots of irresponsible things in my life (not all on bikes) but I'm big enough and (certainly
) ugly enough to know the consequences of my actions and would never try and 'preach' to others about protection etc.
Lighten up guys!
Edited to add - No offence!
>> Edited by cazzo on Saturday 9th August 23:33
Surely biking is about being free, if you feel otherwise go and join Nu-Labour & if you insist on correct attire then take up Golf.
It sounds like a bunch of naughty kids discussing what's a 'naughty' thing to do to - I know let's ride a bike without a back protector Ooooh :scary:
Has no-one ever ridden without all the gear? I usually wear all the gear but have ridden in as little as shorts and sunglasses.
And yes I've fallen off without a helmet, in fact I've done lots of irresponsible things in my life (not all on bikes) but I'm big enough and (certainly
) ugly enough to know the consequences of my actions and would never try and 'preach' to others about protection etc. Lighten up guys!
Edited to add - No offence!
>> Edited by cazzo on Saturday 9th August 23:33
cazzo said:
FFS, I have recently seen a few posts about bikers not wearing the gear and even about other bikers not ackowledging them if not suitably dressed.
Didn't really get that one
They're still other enthusiasts, and why should I care if they don't want to wear the gear ? cazzo said:
Has no-one ever ridden without all the gear? I usually wear all the gear but have ridden in as little as shorts and sunglasses.
Doesn't make it a good idea though cazzo said:
I'm big enough and (certainly
Fair 'nuff. In marked consequence to what people choose to do in their cars what bike riders do has little effect on the rest of us (other than the burden on the NHS, I suppose). The realities of falling off without any protection are pretty alarming, but people can (and I do) make their own assesment of the risks.
jaydee said:
Fair 'nuff. In marked consequence to what people choose to do in their cars what bike riders do has little effect on the rest of us (other than the burden on the NHS, I suppose). The realities of falling off without any protection are pretty alarming, but people can (and I do) make their own assesment of the risks.
Exactly, but the burden on the NHS, Mmmm I believe that in a RTA the insurance co pays and anyway I pay a f
k of a lot of NIC and tax on top of the insurance to cover any treatment I may need and I don't complain about the burden on the NHS that is smoking, drinking etc so let's ride how we like, eh!. I mean complaining about not wearing the right kit is one step from complaining about; wheelies being dangerous, getting knee down irresponsible, speeding - well that's wrong, come to think of it biking is dangerous....let's ban it!
Sorry if I sound a bit anti, but let's live & let live
and leave the 'rules' for the pr*cks in parliament.
Not for the squeamish - when I was 17 I wore a large amount of my right leg away when I came off my Honda MB5 (those were the days!) in jeans on a gravelly road.
Somewhere I have photographs of a set of leathers I was wearing when I was knocked off a ZZR1100 at about 35mph, tumbled down the road and then was run over by a heavily braking Citroen travelling in the opposite direction. I won't bore you (again) with a list of the parts of me that were damaged, but I kept the photo of the leathers because, quite simply, I owe my life to them. I'd rather push the bike to the MOT station than ride it without leathers - which may prove that I'm soft, but which I view as a lesson well learned.
>> Edited by Mon Ami Mate on Sunday 10th August 17:34
>> Edited by Mon Ami Mate on Sunday 10th August 18:50
Somewhere I have photographs of a set of leathers I was wearing when I was knocked off a ZZR1100 at about 35mph, tumbled down the road and then was run over by a heavily braking Citroen travelling in the opposite direction. I won't bore you (again) with a list of the parts of me that were damaged, but I kept the photo of the leathers because, quite simply, I owe my life to them. I'd rather push the bike to the MOT station than ride it without leathers - which may prove that I'm soft, but which I view as a lesson well learned.
>> Edited by Mon Ami Mate on Sunday 10th August 17:34
>> Edited by Mon Ami Mate on Sunday 10th August 18:50
I dont think you're soft old chap. I too have had a few 'Experiances' and never go out without leathers, as i learnt the hard way too.
I have to say though after an hour and a half today i was only too glad to get out of my leathers and seriously contemplated shorts and t-shirt. Tempting.. if you have self control, personnally cant resist nailing it.
Think i might invest in perforated leathers? Anyone know anywhere in Guildford that could do it to my existing leathers?
I have to say though after an hour and a half today i was only too glad to get out of my leathers and seriously contemplated shorts and t-shirt. Tempting.. if you have self control, personnally cant resist nailing it.
Think i might invest in perforated leathers? Anyone know anywhere in Guildford that could do it to my existing leathers?
Think it's all been said, but.....
You're right: if you wanna wear t-shirts, it's only gonna hurt you (alot), but beware, nurses have a totally different attitude to bike crash victims leathered up to those coming in in their shorts and half a leg.... 'Ooh that's a nasty gravel rash you've got there - pass me the wire brush and Dettol'
I came off last year after hitting diesel. I wasn't going that fast, but I did slide a long way on my back.
The bike cost £1100 to fix (and that's leaving a dent in the tank) but the scuffs just polished out of my leathers - didn't hurt a bit!
(screamed alot when I saw my battered bike though )
You're right: if you wanna wear t-shirts, it's only gonna hurt you (alot), but beware, nurses have a totally different attitude to bike crash victims leathered up to those coming in in their shorts and half a leg.... 'Ooh that's a nasty gravel rash you've got there - pass me the wire brush and Dettol'
I came off last year after hitting diesel. I wasn't going that fast, but I did slide a long way on my back.
The bike cost £1100 to fix (and that's leaving a dent in the tank) but the scuffs just polished out of my leathers - didn't hurt a bit!
(screamed alot when I saw my battered bike though
)
See this every day with shed loads of bikers in shorts/t-shirts especially the scooter brigade. Lots of women with nice legs in flip-flops etc.
Well, those legs won't look so nice after they've skidded along the road for a few yards.
If you want to wear sod all on a bike, go for it. Not for anyone else to judge. But FFS, have you no sense of self preservation? I can only assume that anyone who goes without proper gear has never fallen off a bike.
When taking my test, I was told by the instructor that without protection, bone (let alone skin) will wear at about 4mm per metre of road that you skid along.
Not looking so cool now are you, now that you're arm is just a bloody stump and you can't walk anymore?
Harsh, but true.
Well, those legs won't look so nice after they've skidded along the road for a few yards.
If you want to wear sod all on a bike, go for it. Not for anyone else to judge. But FFS, have you no sense of self preservation? I can only assume that anyone who goes without proper gear has never fallen off a bike.
When taking my test, I was told by the instructor that without protection, bone (let alone skin) will wear at about 4mm per metre of road that you skid along.
Not looking so cool now are you, now that you're arm is just a bloody stump and you can't walk anymore?
Harsh, but true.
iguana said:
I always think when I spot people doing as I did that they are mental, but most of us wouldnt think twice about doing it on holiday on a moped and riding through a small uk town is much safer than (for example)roding a moped on gravel strewn greek island roads.
Quite right
10-15 years ago always holidayed in various Greek Islands...always hired a 125cc trials bike to explore...and never wore any protection...just jeans or shorts and a T-shirt....always wore trainers though
Was absolutely great fun
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