Too slow on cornering
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I've got over the terminal fixation problem thanks to your advice, so I'm asking for your help once again.
I've got a BMW F650 GS which doesn't seem to want to go down for corners and its made me nervous of taking corners at any reasonable speed, so I slow down probably far more than I need to.
I think that I have the feeling that she'll slide away from me, which I know really won't be the case.
If I didn't have a crash helmet on, I'd be embarrassed!
There's nothing wrong at all with the bike, it's just me so help please!
I've got a BMW F650 GS which doesn't seem to want to go down for corners and its made me nervous of taking corners at any reasonable speed, so I slow down probably far more than I need to.
I think that I have the feeling that she'll slide away from me, which I know really won't be the case.
If I didn't have a crash helmet on, I'd be embarrassed!
There's nothing wrong at all with the bike, it's just me so help please!
I believe it who pursuaded you into the BMW, it wasnt the best cornerer.
however check the tyres arent squared off, if so fit new ones, i also found it handled better motorcross style, ie hanging out a leg for tight corners.
What tyres is it running, I found the trail wing by bridgestone to be favourite.
however check the tyres arent squared off, if so fit new ones, i also found it handled better motorcross style, ie hanging out a leg for tight corners.
What tyres is it running, I found the trail wing by bridgestone to be favourite.
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Try this as it worked for me.
Note where you are looking when you are in the corner. If you are looking at the curb or the middle of the road then that it where you will travel towards. See if you can concentrate on looking at the exit of the corner or up the road if it's in view as you go into the bend, you will be amazed the difference it makes as you will naturally take a tighter line without having to change any input you are putting into the bike.
If you're already doing this - ignore me !
>> Edited by pdavison on Tuesday 5th August 13:37
Note where you are looking when you are in the corner. If you are looking at the curb or the middle of the road then that it where you will travel towards. See if you can concentrate on looking at the exit of the corner or up the road if it's in view as you go into the bend, you will be amazed the difference it makes as you will naturally take a tighter line without having to change any input you are putting into the bike.
If you're already doing this - ignore me !
>> Edited by pdavison on Tuesday 5th August 13:37
Davel said:
No I did counter steer at all but someone else here has suggested it, so I'll give it a try tonight.
Probably will get it all arse about face and disappear into a hedge somewhere!
Just about used to pushing the bars away and the bike tipping in to the turn one the side I'm pushing. Tried pulling on the bars on the opposite side last night on the way home as an experiment. Boy that feels wierd and for some reason causes the bike to tip much more. Is it possible I'm pushing down on the bars rather than away from me?
Steve
Just to beat this to death........
Also practice counter-steering on straight roads as an accident avoidance technique. At higher speeds body positioning won't be as effective as slamming the bars left/right. Try aiming at a manhole cover and swerving around it at the last minute. Also helps overcome target fixation.
Regards,
BOR
Also practice counter-steering on straight roads as an accident avoidance technique. At higher speeds body positioning won't be as effective as slamming the bars left/right. Try aiming at a manhole cover and swerving around it at the last minute. Also helps overcome target fixation.
Regards,
BOR
you cant ride a bike without counter steering. the keith code (california superbike school) have a fixed handlebar bike just to prove it.
basically a bike wont turn without trying to turn the wrong way first. you just dont realise your doing it.
more to the point, I always bang on about it, but suspension on bikes is crucial to turning, incorrect config for your weight will result in the washing out feeling you have. if it has adjustable settings on the forks etc, then find a guide for your bike, cater for weight and get it changed. the difference will be very noticable
I think gixxer1000 can back me up on this one?
basically a bike wont turn without trying to turn the wrong way first. you just dont realise your doing it.
more to the point, I always bang on about it, but suspension on bikes is crucial to turning, incorrect config for your weight will result in the washing out feeling you have. if it has adjustable settings on the forks etc, then find a guide for your bike, cater for weight and get it changed. the difference will be very noticable
I think gixxer1000 can back me up on this one?
Tried the counter steering thingy over the past few days and it certainly works, also tried the knee out bit and that helps too.
I'm still slow compared to the other bikers that I've seen on corners but I guess that it'll come with practice. I'm sure that alot of it is a confidence thing.
At least I'm no longer holding anyone up on the bendy bits now.
I'm still slow compared to the other bikers that I've seen on corners but I guess that it'll come with practice. I'm sure that alot of it is a confidence thing.
At least I'm no longer holding anyone up on the bendy bits now.
TheExcession said:
Hey Dave, this point is in no disrespect to you at all but I'm amazed that somebody can climb aboard a bike and not know about counter steering.... this whole topic has left me absolutly speechless...
best
Ex
Come off it, Ex. Everybody counter-steers to a degree whether they ride a motorcycle or a push-bike, but it's not intuitive. It is something that people need to be told about - how do you know about it otherwise ?
I liked it better when you where speechless.
BOR
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