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Has anyone heard of or use a Loobman chain oiler?
Website: www.chainoiler.co.uk/index.html
I'm thinking of getting one cos I'm too poor to buy a scotoiler. (which is 50quid for basic unit and then 25 quid for the doublesided attachment to oil both sides of your chain)
seems like a good idea after all how the scotoiler is basically gravity fed but is turned off and on by the vaccuum from the carbs isn't it?
Andy
Website: www.chainoiler.co.uk/index.html
I'm thinking of getting one cos I'm too poor to buy a scotoiler. (which is 50quid for basic unit and then 25 quid for the doublesided attachment to oil both sides of your chain)
seems like a good idea after all how the scotoiler is basically gravity fed but is turned off and on by the vaccuum from the carbs isn't it?
Andy
Nah dont bother with that double oiler thing on a scotoiler its crap, just stick to the normal single jobbie. I love my scotoiler, done 20k on my chain and Ive never cleaned it, only used a bit of spray lube when Ive run the oiler dry & I ride quite hard.
Ok its on a 80-90ish bhp 4 cyl bike which is not as hard on chains as say a big twin or single but i think its pretty impressive oh and no noise yet & no constantly adjusting chain either, so should have lots more life yet
It does fling a bit of oil out (not much on a low flow summer setting tho) but not on the tyre, the wheel does cop a bit tho but its black anyway and at least it wont rust!
I do admit I wouldnt have an oiler on the VFR with its white wheels tho! normal lube flings off bad enough.
Never seen a loobman thing other thna in a magazine feature but it does seem a great idea & I would probably consider it for my next bike.
Ok its on a 80-90ish bhp 4 cyl bike which is not as hard on chains as say a big twin or single but i think its pretty impressive oh and no noise yet & no constantly adjusting chain either, so should have lots more life yet
It does fling a bit of oil out (not much on a low flow summer setting tho) but not on the tyre, the wheel does cop a bit tho but its black anyway and at least it wont rust!
I do admit I wouldnt have an oiler on the VFR with its white wheels tho! normal lube flings off bad enough.
Never seen a loobman thing other thna in a magazine feature but it does seem a great idea & I would probably consider it for my next bike.
I use a single Scottoiler on my Hayabusa and it's no problem at all.
Standard unit requires refill every 800-900 miles.
Flung oil all over tyre when I first put it on - easily removed with white spirit and a rag - but now it's correctly adjusted it lubes the chain and only the chain.
Standard unit requires refill every 800-900 miles.
Flung oil all over tyre when I first put it on - easily removed with white spirit and a rag - but now it's correctly adjusted it lubes the chain and only the chain.
Hmmm,
Mixed reviews about chain oilers.
I might get one, after all its only 17quid.
I'm not worried about run off cos on an RVF the wheels are black so you wouldn't notice it.
My only worry is getting oil on the tyres but I think if the unit is set up right then it'll be ok.
I need to clean my chain anyway. And maybe adjust it.
If your chain is slightly loose does that make clutchless shifts harder. Or am I just crap at them?
Cheers
Andy
Mixed reviews about chain oilers.
I might get one, after all its only 17quid.
I'm not worried about run off cos on an RVF the wheels are black so you wouldn't notice it.
My only worry is getting oil on the tyres but I think if the unit is set up right then it'll be ok.
I need to clean my chain anyway. And maybe adjust it.
If your chain is slightly loose does that make clutchless shifts harder. Or am I just crap at them?
Cheers
Andy
or yes you could just be crap at em 
I have a Scottoiler with double-sided injector on the Ducati and generally I like it as it saves me forgetting to lube the chain.
Used to use spray on sticky (non-fling) stuff, still flings though, but the dust etc sticks to it and knacks the chain - giving it tight spots. I have just changed the chain so it's now spot on.
The only problem I have had with the scottoiler was getting the flow right, I was right down at the bottom of the adjustment range (around 1) & it almost always seemed too fast, if I turned it down a tad then - nothing, however I think I have solved the problem by using the 'high-temperature oil, this is thicker and flows slower so I can use a higher setting and get a better 'resolution' of adjustment.
BTW the 'bottle' sits under the seat just above the exhaust and so gets warm but stays fairly constant regardless of the weather - hence needing the high temp oil.
IMHO The double-sider can use a slower flow and therefore less mess on wheel whilst ensuring the inside of the chain gets lubed.
I would reccomend it as cleaning/lubing the chain, is just one of those jobs that I can't be arsed with, whereas it takes nothing to clean the wheel every now and then.
Edited to say; the double-sided injector looks better than the single which IMHO looked a bit heath-robinson!
>> Edited by cazzo on Monday 28th July 22:58
Used to use spray on sticky (non-fling) stuff, still flings though, but the dust etc sticks to it and knacks the chain - giving it tight spots. I have just changed the chain so it's now spot on.
The only problem I have had with the scottoiler was getting the flow right, I was right down at the bottom of the adjustment range (around 1) & it almost always seemed too fast, if I turned it down a tad then - nothing, however I think I have solved the problem by using the 'high-temperature oil, this is thicker and flows slower so I can use a higher setting and get a better 'resolution' of adjustment.
BTW the 'bottle' sits under the seat just above the exhaust and so gets warm but stays fairly constant regardless of the weather - hence needing the high temp oil.
IMHO The double-sider can use a slower flow and therefore less mess on wheel whilst ensuring the inside of the chain gets lubed.
I would reccomend it as cleaning/lubing the chain, is just one of those jobs that I can't be arsed with, whereas it takes nothing to clean the wheel every now and then.
Edited to say; the double-sided injector looks better than the single which IMHO looked a bit heath-robinson!
>> Edited by cazzo on Monday 28th July 22:58
I've been thinking of a scottoiler for a while but not got round to it. I do 14k a year and have been using (I think) Putoline Chain Wax every other morning. It's white, which helps with seeing where you've done but it still gets on the back wheel and when your rim's black it looks a mess.
I ordered one of these yesterday after seeing this thread, I'll let you know the results if your interested still.
edit: sorry, meant I'd ordered a loobman, not a scottoiler.
>> Edited by Gerrard on Tuesday 29th July 14:44
I ordered one of these yesterday after seeing this thread, I'll let you know the results if your interested still.
edit: sorry, meant I'd ordered a loobman, not a scottoiler.
>> Edited by Gerrard on Tuesday 29th July 14:44
Scotoiler:
Pros
Chains last for ever with little adjustment.
Never have to touch the chain.
Don't need to take loob on long trips.
Cons
Like fitting an oil leak to the bike. It does throw a lot of oil around. Bikes always dripping with oil.
I wouldn't retro fit one but since I've got one I'll keep it.
Pros
Chains last for ever with little adjustment.
Never have to touch the chain.
Don't need to take loob on long trips.
Cons
Like fitting an oil leak to the bike. It does throw a lot of oil around. Bikes always dripping with oil.
I wouldn't retro fit one but since I've got one I'll keep it.
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