HELP gloves problem
Discussion
I've got my first motorbike lesson tommorrow morning and the only piece of equipment the training school are providing is the helmet so I went out this afternoon and bought a pair of Hein Gericke gloves.
Now as I got them home I noticed a little label strung onto them that says:
"This garment is not considered to be "Personal Protective Equipment" as defined in or within the scope of the personal Protective Equipment (EC Directive) Regulations 1992 (S.I. 1992/3 139) and has therefore not been examined or tested in accordance with those regulations. No liability will be accepted by the manufacturer or supplier of this garment arising out of the garment's non-compliance with such regulations."
Is this just legal gumf to protect the makers from getting sued or have I just spent 50 quid on gloves that are nothing better than fashion gloves??
The gloves also have the Hiprotech logo on them. What is this exactly. Loads of Hien Gericke stuff has this.
Andy (slightly worried)
Now as I got them home I noticed a little label strung onto them that says:
"This garment is not considered to be "Personal Protective Equipment" as defined in or within the scope of the personal Protective Equipment (EC Directive) Regulations 1992 (S.I. 1992/3 139) and has therefore not been examined or tested in accordance with those regulations. No liability will be accepted by the manufacturer or supplier of this garment arising out of the garment's non-compliance with such regulations."
Is this just legal gumf to protect the makers from getting sued or have I just spent 50 quid on gloves that are nothing better than fashion gloves??
The gloves also have the Hiprotech logo on them. What is this exactly. Loads of Hien Gericke stuff has this.
Andy (slightly worried)
In order to get CE approval, the manufacturers have to supply an approved tester with samples, and a breakdown of what they want testing.
If the garment satisfies those tests then it can display the CE mark.
In this case obviously HG have not put the gloves through the testing programme, so they have to make it quite clear that they do not conform for that very reason, but that does not mean they are dangerous. All it is saying is that as they have not been tested, they cannot be sold as personal protective equipment in its most direct form.
In all honesty, the CE approval is a joke (I have been involved in the testing in varying degrees since its inception)and Satra will only test what the manufacturers ask them to test, and if it passes those tests then it will be given a CE mark.
Don't worry about it, they will be fine. I would be more worried about using a helmet provided by the training school.
If the garment satisfies those tests then it can display the CE mark.
In this case obviously HG have not put the gloves through the testing programme, so they have to make it quite clear that they do not conform for that very reason, but that does not mean they are dangerous. All it is saying is that as they have not been tested, they cannot be sold as personal protective equipment in its most direct form.
In all honesty, the CE approval is a joke (I have been involved in the testing in varying degrees since its inception)and Satra will only test what the manufacturers ask them to test, and if it passes those tests then it will be given a CE mark.
Don't worry about it, they will be fine. I would be more worried about using a helmet provided by the training school.
t-c said:
Don't worry about it, they will be fine. I would be more worried about using a helmet provided by the training school.
I know. I can't afford a helmet (or anyting else including a bike) until I graduate and have secured money that I have sitting in the bank.
I can barely afford the training as it is. If things get any worse then I'll have to get a job at Pizza Hut or something until I start work full time proper.
Andy
ahhhh, memories! My first "biking" experience was 14 years ago, working for Pizza Hut (Portswood branch) whilst at Uni in Southampton and trying to get 40MPH, downhill with a following wind, out of a twist-n-go with a huge square box on the back!
Hein Gericke's Hiprotec is their version of the stiff "protective" inserts that you get in other gear. Hiprotec (yeah, I know there should be a little r in a circle) got Ride mag's "Best buy" last year for protective inserts. I've got their leathers, all-weather gear, winter gloves and summer gloves and having seen my mate hit the back of a van on the M55 (wearing "Hard-Edge" and a closing speed of about 70MPH) and walk away with nothing more than a broken collar-bone and a few scrapes I can't recommend their stuff enough (though I may well get shouted down for that! )
Hein Gericke's Hiprotec is their version of the stiff "protective" inserts that you get in other gear. Hiprotec (yeah, I know there should be a little r in a circle) got Ride mag's "Best buy" last year for protective inserts. I've got their leathers, all-weather gear, winter gloves and summer gloves and having seen my mate hit the back of a van on the M55 (wearing "Hard-Edge" and a closing speed of about 70MPH) and walk away with nothing more than a broken collar-bone and a few scrapes I can't recommend their stuff enough (though I may well get shouted down for that! )
Dont worry about it HG's gear is very good , dont think ive ever seen a bad rating for anything they have made IIRC they are german so the standards are quite high that they have to meet , Nearly all of my gear is made by Richa , fits nicly and is comfortable cant be bothered to pay the extra just to have Alpinestars/Dianese written on my leathers when there is cheaper gear that does the job just as well
Hate to hijack this thread but I hate wearing gloves at the best of times, but especially on a bike. At the moment I'm wearing really flimsy summer gloves knowing that I must get some proper protection.
Can anyone recommend a particular glove that is comfy and easy to use the bike switchgear with? I've tried on my old winter gloves that I used to use years back and it felt like I was wearing mitts!
Can anyone recommend a particular glove that is comfy and easy to use the bike switchgear with? I've tried on my old winter gloves that I used to use years back and it felt like I was wearing mitts!
Best I ever bought (summer and winter versions) are Belstaff Airflow and Thermosport. Soft leather and long fingers for exellent 'lever feel' and carbon knuckles and inserts for excellent protection and sexy looks. Summer ones are cool and unlined, winter ones are lines and waterproof. They're eye-wateringly expensive (to my mind) but well worth it!
>> Edited by Bruce Fielding on Sunday 18th May 16:11
>> Edited by Bruce Fielding on Sunday 18th May 16:11
Bruce , Are your winter ones the funny looking 2 finger jobbies ? i bought some for Dorset Dawdle in febuary and they are bloody excellent ! Temp was -4 on the way home but my fingers/hands were warm as toast , never ride in winter with out them again . and ive also just bough some new Richa summer goves , excellent feel made with a really supple leather but feel like they have got the protection just incase
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