Sealey Fold Up Ramp

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Marquezs Stabilisers

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1,907 posts

75 months

Sunday 5th January
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https://www.sealey.co.uk/product/5637191863/foldin...

Anyone used one of these? Big money compared to others but our garage isn't just for bike stuff and the fold away element is useful. I'm getting too old to crawl around on the floor.

Alternative suggestions welcome as long as they give height - an Abba doesn't give that, does it?

Time4another

397 posts

17 months

Monday 6th January
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I'd say the height of the Abba is comparible. Can also have the bike nose down or nose up depending on which end your working on. Not sure it will fold away as neatly as that ramp though.

srob

12,102 posts

252 months

Monday 6th January
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Why not go for a hydraulic one that lifts it for you?

Something like this is about the same price. I have similar and just store a bike on it when it's lowered so it doesn't really take up any more space than just having a bike stand there.

Rockets7

466 posts

144 months

Monday 6th January
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If you’re going to use the Abba sky lift watch fuel levels ….. don’t ask….

paddy1970

1,098 posts

123 months

Monday 6th January
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Sealey MC4500 Motorcycle & Quad Scissor Lift
This hydraulic scissor lift offers a lifting capacity of 500kg and a lifting range from 110mm to 400mm. It is designed with a foot-operated hydraulic pump and folds flat for easy storage. The lift includes a safety locking mechanism and rubber contact pads to prevent frame damage. Price: £250


Marquezs Stabilisers

Original Poster:

1,907 posts

75 months

Monday 6th January
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I'd forgotten about the Abba Sky Lift. I have a FireBlade so the scissor jack type ones which are fine for Harleys and Bandits wouldn't work.

Thanks to all those who replied so far. A hydraulic ramp would be a trip hazard getting in and out of the car.

Moulder

1,608 posts

226 months

Monday 6th January
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My thoughts would be...

1/ If at the point in life where there is creaking/cracking/oofing when crawling around bikes, that ramp looks steep to push a bike up.
2/ If the Fireblade doesn't have a centre stand, 2 foot width seems quite narrow for the wheels and sidestand.
3/ If it only gets the bike 45cm off the floor, a lot of stuff will still need to be done bending/kneeling.
4/ With a sidestand the bike will be over to one side, so no paddock stands or other ways to get it off its wheels.

Edited by Moulder on Monday 6th January 08:33

Marquezs Stabilisers

Original Poster:

1,907 posts

75 months

Monday 6th January
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Moulder said:
My thoughts would be...

1/ If at the point in life where there is creaking/cracking/oofing when crawling around bikes, that ramp looks steep to push a bike up.
2/ If the Fireblade doesn't have a centre stand, 2 foot width seems quite narrow for the wheels and sidestand.
3/ If it only gets the bike 45cm off the floor, a lot of stuff will still need to be done bending/kneeling.
4/ With a sidestand the bike will be over to one side, so no paddock stands or other ways to get it off its wheels.

Edited by Moulder on Monday 6th January 08:33
Two foot should be wide enough for a paddock stand, which I have. I'm able to shove stuff around, just being sat on a floor working on stuff does my back in.

Moulder

1,608 posts

226 months

Monday 6th January
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Marquezs Stabilisers said:
Moulder said:
My thoughts would be...

1/ If at the point in life where there is creaking/cracking/oofing when crawling around bikes, that ramp looks steep to push a bike up.
2/ If the Fireblade doesn't have a centre stand, 2 foot width seems quite narrow for the wheels and sidestand.
3/ If it only gets the bike 45cm off the floor, a lot of stuff will still need to be done bending/kneeling.
4/ With a sidestand the bike will be over to one side, so no paddock stands or other ways to get it off its wheels.

Edited by Moulder on Monday 6th January 08:33
Two foot should be wide enough for a paddock stand, which I have. I'm able to shove stuff around, just being sat on a floor working on stuff does my back in.
I agreeish, but unless the centreline of the wheels to the sidestand is nicely less than 30cm won't there be an unpleasantly large amount of balancing with the sidestand very near the lift edge?


stang65

444 posts

151 months

Monday 6th January
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I have the CML3 referred to in Srob's post. It's good but the two improvements that I'd look for if buying again are more height when lifted (although I am 6ft2, but there are some jobs where another 6-8 inches lift would be useful) and a little more width (it's not quite wide enough to make an Abba stand easy). Having said that, I wouldn't be without a lift now as standing up makes most jobs easier. As the folding stand is worse in both the areas I'd want to improve I think that the first time I used it I'd feel I'd wasted my money - especially as it costs more for less.

Why not build some simple wooden ramps so you can park your car over the hydraulic ramp when not in use? Unbolt the wheel clamp (I can't decide if it's useful as I'm fitting it and removing it all the time depending on the job as it gets in the way of a front paddock stand) and it's only 18 cm tall, and most cars probably have nearly that anyway so a couple of planks might do it?

KTMsm

28,811 posts

277 months

Monday 6th January
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Marquezs Stabilisers said:
A hydraulic ramp would be a trip hazard getting in and out of the car.
Surely not if you left a bike parked on it ?


Bob_Defly

4,698 posts

245 months

Monday 6th January
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srob said:
Why not go for a hydraulic one that lifts it for you?

Something like this is about the same price. I have similar and just store a bike on it when it's lowered so it doesn't really take up any more space than just having a bike stand there.
I agree, £650 for a couple of pieces of metal seems insane!

Charlie Croker mk2

302 posts

114 months

Monday 6th January
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FAR to narrow , I would be very warry about putting any leverage on a bike that is perched on that - can your family hear you when you shout for help when bike falls on top of you LOL

srob

12,102 posts

252 months

Monday 6th January
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Charlie Croker mk2 said:
FAR to narrow , I would be very warry about putting any leverage on a bike that is perched on that - can your family hear you when you shout for help when bike falls on top of you LOL
I have actually heard of someone who met their untimely end in this very way. Not from a Sealey ramp as shown I should add, but a regular bike lift.

I also had to go help one of dad's old mates who had a fifties Triumph twin fall off a hydraulic lift/ramp. It luckily avoided him but fell on another bike and the handlebar punctured a huge hole in the top of the tank of a similar bike! It took four of us to lift the upside down Triumph off the other one.

I'm not renowned as the most H&S conscious person but I do make sure whatever I have hoisted up on mine is well secured with a ratchet strap or two since then though!

catso

15,149 posts

281 months

Monday 6th January
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Bob_Defly said:
srob said:
Why not go for a hydraulic one that lifts it for you?

Something like this is about the same price. I have similar and just store a bike on it when it's lowered so it doesn't really take up any more space than just having a bike stand there.
I agree, £650 for a couple of pieces of metal seems insane!
It is very expensive, to add I have a Clarke ramp as linked to but with the optional air lifting kit (much quicker to lift) and whilst good it is quite bulky.

I normally store a bike on it, though currently using it as a welding bench but it wouldn't be easy to hide away if you don't have much floor space and it's too high to park a car (other than a high 4x4) over it.

Best thing I ever bought for the workshop though. thumbup

graeme4130

3,929 posts

195 months

Monday 6th January
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Marquezs Stabilisers said:
https://www.sealey.co.uk/product/5637191863/foldin...

Anyone used one of these? Big money compared to others but our garage isn't just for bike stuff and the fold away element is useful. I'm getting too old to crawl around on the floor.

Alternative suggestions welcome as long as they give height - an Abba doesn't give that, does it?
I had that very ramp for a few years before giving it away as wasn't getting used much
It folds up nice and small and is super secure once up, but the supplied ramp onto it is too steep, and makes for hard work to get a bike onto it, and a race bike fouls the belly pan on the way up, so I used my normal folding van ramp to load

seabod91

827 posts

76 months

Tuesday 7th January
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Jesus. how much. I’m hoping to start my own business making bbq’s, grills, and smokers. Looks like I need to get into the folding motorbike ramp game.

Marquezs Stabilisers

Original Poster:

1,907 posts

75 months

Tuesday 7th January
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Having had a read around, the Abba Skylift thingy looks a lot easier, if not that much cheaper, and should pack away better.

Thanks again to everyone for their contributions

srob

12,102 posts

252 months

Tuesday 7th January
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seabod91 said:
Jesus. how much. I’m hoping to start my own business making bbq’s, grills, and smokers. Looks like I need to get into the folding motorbike ramp game.
You also need to factor in advertising then!

Sealey are at every big bike show with their gear, so they pump some serious money into making sure bike people know about their stuff thumbup

seabod91

827 posts

76 months

Tuesday 7th January
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srob said:
seabod91 said:
Jesus. how much. I’m hoping to start my own business making bbq’s, grills, and smokers. Looks like I need to get into the folding motorbike ramp game.
You also need to factor in advertising then!

Sealey are at every big bike show with their gear, so they pump some serious money into making sure bike people know about their stuff thumbup
“A cheaper better made product with bad advertisement will get outsold by the more expensive cheaper made product with good advertisement”. Or something like that.