Cheap winter hack - T595 Daytona
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They are ok, tanks can swell with ethanol fuel, AIC valve hoses can split and cause poor running, starter sprag clutches fail, the fuel connections under the tank be be a nightmare, wiring/electric problems, the rear hub seizes, they are heavy on the wrists too.
But they look great, sound great and are proper things, I’ve had three.
It looks like that has the TOR exhaust fitted which makes them sound amazing too, get it bought.
But they look great, sound great and are proper things, I’ve had three.
It looks like that has the TOR exhaust fitted which makes them sound amazing too, get it bought.
Edited by Jazoli on Tuesday 24th December 21:45
I can tell you that i absolutely love mine mate, its a cracking bike to ride - its one of the more "mint" examples to be fair though but still, triple engine howl - no slouch either once they are remapped with a nice exhaust system. I dont find mine "wristy" in the slightest compared to say a zx7r.
Obviously check the usual things mentioned above and look for one that has lived a nice life with service history etc
They share the same Showa front end as early Fireblades so they they can be made to corner very well indeed.
They have precisely zero traction control, ABS or any other form of rider aids/safety net so if you're not on top of your game you'll get hurt.
They are a big heavy lump so you need to use some muscle when riding, probably a lot more than you're used to using.
They have precisely zero traction control, ABS or any other form of rider aids/safety net so if you're not on top of your game you'll get hurt.
They are a big heavy lump so you need to use some muscle when riding, probably a lot more than you're used to using.
Drawweight said:
My nephew had one and the gearbox went. I think it’s a common fault with these and you can rebuild it with upgraded parts, but don’t quote me on that.
He got it rebuilt and it was fine after that.
Third or fourth gear was a known weakness on the early ones and you'll know when the chain isn't adjusted and lubed correctly as you'll get a false neutral between 4th & 5th if you're lazy with your gear change. He got it rebuilt and it was fine after that.
Presume you've seen it but this seems an good, informative review
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bike...
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bike...
Interesting - I wouldn't have through one of those would be any good for a cheap winter hack to not worry about! I'd probably look more towards the Triumph Sprint 1050 for that type of duty and still get the T595 (that particular one) as something to "un-barn find" and bring back to its former glory to look at and ride on the occasional sunny day.
Edited by rodericb on Wednesday 25th December 11:24
Biker9090 said:
Why get something with zero rider aids for the worst weather time of the year?
Plenty of bikes with ABS out there now.
Yeah good point. I'm fairly comfy in my riding ability but I'll always take abs where possiblePlenty of bikes with ABS out there now.
Having read the comments and thought about it over last day I'm thinking as said earlier maybe look at a 1050 sprint instead and get something with abs
It was mainly due to being nice looking, still reasonable power and cheap so I wouldn't care too much about it
The 1050 is a better engine for road use but do not under any circumstances mess about with the rev limiter.
The rev limiter on the early 1050 engines would stop play around 9,100 rpm but if the cams were dialled in correctly the engine would produce power all the way to 9,700rpm.
The problem being the very long stroke by todays standards means the rods and pistons are not happy at those revs and the rods can pop out of the crankcase for a bit of fresh air if it all gets a bit too emotional for them...
The 1050 being a steel liner engine does like a slurp of oil as well.
It is possible to swap the cams about with ones from the last of the 955 engines to get the 1050 lump spinning past 10k rpm but you would have to be very brave to do that on standard internals and completely defeats the object of having one as a winter bike too!
The rev limiter on the early 1050 engines would stop play around 9,100 rpm but if the cams were dialled in correctly the engine would produce power all the way to 9,700rpm.
The problem being the very long stroke by todays standards means the rods and pistons are not happy at those revs and the rods can pop out of the crankcase for a bit of fresh air if it all gets a bit too emotional for them...
The 1050 being a steel liner engine does like a slurp of oil as well.
It is possible to swap the cams about with ones from the last of the 955 engines to get the 1050 lump spinning past 10k rpm but you would have to be very brave to do that on standard internals and completely defeats the object of having one as a winter bike too!
SAS Tom said:
Obviously against the grain but I think the engine is crap. No real torque and when you rev it out you think the power is about to come in but you hit the rev limiter instead. Gearbox wasn’t up to much either.
Did you ride one that had been updated with a map? it makes a nice difference especially with a system on - gives better midrange, i enjoy mine - i think for the road its a brilliant engine, its usable power - like a nice happy medium. Tango13 said:
They share the same Showa front end as early Fireblades so they they can be made to corner very well indeed.
They have precisely zero traction control, ABS or any other form of rider aids/safety net so if you're not on top of your game you'll get hurt.
They are a big heavy lump so you need to use some muscle when riding, probably a lot more than you're used to using.
Agree, its not really a bike id be looking at using during sThey have precisely zero traction control, ABS or any other form of rider aids/safety net so if you're not on top of your game you'll get hurt.
They are a big heavy lump so you need to use some muscle when riding, probably a lot more than you're used to using.
t weather months with greasy roads - zero aids etc, great in the spring/summer and into autumn mind you! s1dew1nd3r said:
Tango13 said:
They share the same Showa front end as early Fireblades so they they can be made to corner very well indeed.
They have precisely zero traction control, ABS or any other form of rider aids/safety net so if you're not on top of your game you'll get hurt.
They are a big heavy lump so you need to use some muscle when riding, probably a lot more than you're used to using.
Agree, its not really a bike id be looking at using during sThey have precisely zero traction control, ABS or any other form of rider aids/safety net so if you're not on top of your game you'll get hurt.
They are a big heavy lump so you need to use some muscle when riding, probably a lot more than you're used to using.
t weather months with greasy roads - zero aids etc, great in the spring/summer and into autumn mind you! 
Rubin215 said:
s1dew1nd3r said:
Tango13 said:
They share the same Showa front end as early Fireblades so they they can be made to corner very well indeed.
They have precisely zero traction control, ABS or any other form of rider aids/safety net so if you're not on top of your game you'll get hurt.
They are a big heavy lump so you need to use some muscle when riding, probably a lot more than you're used to using.
Agree, its not really a bike id be looking at using during sThey have precisely zero traction control, ABS or any other form of rider aids/safety net so if you're not on top of your game you'll get hurt.
They are a big heavy lump so you need to use some muscle when riding, probably a lot more than you're used to using.
t weather months with greasy roads - zero aids etc, great in the spring/summer and into autumn mind you! Going straight to a 250 at 17 and then a CBX 1000 at 17.5 didn't do me any harm. Unlike the many people that killed themselves or had life changing injuries, that are very unlikely to be posting here.
I'm a relatively competent rider but very happy to have a bit of help on a cold, wet, greasy commute to the office.
Just as I don't ride around with just a donkey jacket over a T shirt and 501 jeans in the middle of winter any more, whilst moaning that heated clothing is the work of the devil.
Modern tyres pah lets all get 25 year old NOS tyres to get that proper 1990s feeling.
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