Suzuki GS500E T reg
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Quick question for anyone with knowledge about these bikes.
Just inherited one of these, not keeping it, just messing.
Q
Was the petrol filler cap lock the same key as the seat and ignition lock. Came with two keys but neither will open the cap. The bike has been unused for ages and the cap may be rusted, but it don't look that bad.
Cheers
Just inherited one of these, not keeping it, just messing.
Q
Was the petrol filler cap lock the same key as the seat and ignition lock. Came with two keys but neither will open the cap. The bike has been unused for ages and the cap may be rusted, but it don't look that bad.
Cheers
Yes, should be the same key.
Most often a different key is when a bike is nicked/recovered and the scrotes have knacked the ignition barrel; a new barrel with different keys is cheaper than changing tank and seat locks at the same time.
It's unusual (but not unheard of) for a fuel cap key to be different however I would be more likely to look at time and corrosion stopping it opening, most likely the catch itself on the underside rather than the lock internals.
Flood the whole of the lock-barrel area with a penetrating oil (GT85 or similar), scoosh some between the tank and cap as well and hopefully some will get into the mechanism and free it off.
Most often a different key is when a bike is nicked/recovered and the scrotes have knacked the ignition barrel; a new barrel with different keys is cheaper than changing tank and seat locks at the same time.
It's unusual (but not unheard of) for a fuel cap key to be different however I would be more likely to look at time and corrosion stopping it opening, most likely the catch itself on the underside rather than the lock internals.
Flood the whole of the lock-barrel area with a penetrating oil (GT85 or similar), scoosh some between the tank and cap as well and hopefully some will get into the mechanism and free it off.
This ones been unloved for 16 years abandoned in a dry shed. It's not a UK bike.
The last owner doesn't recall having a different key, just the two identical originals, but is checking.
The throttle action was stuck with fuel tar (varnish) at the carbs end. Freed that off.
Soaked the tank lock barrel and around it with penertrating oil but apart from a very small amount of movement the cap will not unlock.. There's not much fuel in the tank but going on the crap in the fuel pipes I would like to empty it.
I though removing the ring around the cap would give access to the underside of the lock but no, one of the cap heads is attached to the hinge mechanism.
While the tank was off I did store it upside down so whatever is in the tank would have penetrated the lock.
Will keep trying.
The last owner doesn't recall having a different key, just the two identical originals, but is checking.
The throttle action was stuck with fuel tar (varnish) at the carbs end. Freed that off.
Soaked the tank lock barrel and around it with penertrating oil but apart from a very small amount of movement the cap will not unlock.. There's not much fuel in the tank but going on the crap in the fuel pipes I would like to empty it.
I though removing the ring around the cap would give access to the underside of the lock but no, one of the cap heads is attached to the hinge mechanism.
While the tank was off I did store it upside down so whatever is in the tank would have penetrated the lock.
Will keep trying.
I gave up on the tank cap lock.
The carbs will need a strip down because the throttle action has gone stiff again.
Engine spins on the button with donor battery in circuit.
Will need brake calipers, It can be pushed easily.
All the electrics work except flash and speedo bulb, no battery.
Fork seals leaking.
However I gave it a wash and found this......
Just good for spares now, shame really looks a tidy bike. Like I said before not for me anyway.
I though It would be worth around £200.00 as it is, what you think?
The carbs will need a strip down because the throttle action has gone stiff again.
Engine spins on the button with donor battery in circuit.
Will need brake calipers, It can be pushed easily.
All the electrics work except flash and speedo bulb, no battery.
Fork seals leaking.
However I gave it a wash and found this......
Just good for spares now, shame really looks a tidy bike. Like I said before not for me anyway.
I though It would be worth around £200.00 as it is, what you think?
Rubin215 said:
That's nothing to worry about.
The engine isn't a stressed member, it's not going to leak oil, it's not going to fall out of the frame and it's not going to get any worse.
That's interesting thanks.The engine isn't a stressed member, it's not going to leak oil, it's not going to fall out of the frame and it's not going to get any worse.
Anyway I'm going to offer it to my 1960 biker mates at our monthly Hairy biker meet at the local garden centre HaHa. for offers to buy.
After thought,,,,,,,,,,,What about MOT time?
Edited by lancepar on Tuesday 3rd December 17:00
lancepar said:
That's interesting thanks.
Anyway I'm going to offer it to my 1960 biker mates at our monthly Hairy biker meet at the local garden centre HaHa. for offers to buy.
After thought,,,,,,,,,,,What about MOT time?
Don't think it needs one.Anyway I'm going to offer it to my 1960 biker mates at our monthly Hairy biker meet at the local garden centre HaHa. for offers to buy.
After thought,,,,,,,,,,,What about MOT time?
Edited by lancepar on Tuesday 3rd December 17:00
Amused2death said:
lancepar said:
That's interesting thanks.
Anyway I'm going to offer it to my 1960 biker mates at our monthly Hairy biker meet at the local garden centre HaHa. for offers to buy.
After thought,,,,,,,,,,,What about MOT time?
Don't think it needs one.Anyway I'm going to offer it to my 1960 biker mates at our monthly Hairy biker meet at the local garden centre HaHa. for offers to buy.
After thought,,,,,,,,,,,What about MOT time?
Edited by lancepar on Tuesday 3rd December 17:00
I don't know if any motorcycle MoT testers frequent that thread?:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I've got a 1991 GS500 and use it as my commuter/winter bike.
The crack in the engine wouldn't bother me as long as it runs.
I imagine if you use a large flat bladed screwdriver then you'll be able to free off the tank lock. Maybe some gentle tapping with a hammer. Even just wiggling it side to side to get it started, then trying the key. If you don't have any luck, then can just try just forcing it with the screwdriver.
Another possibiliity is drilling the wafers in the lock.
You can replace the tank lock for any second hand one. The lock can be disassembled to remove the wafers. I removed all wafers from mine so any key will open it, but no one can tell from looking at it. I had to do this as tank lock was a different key from my ignition. This is not original, but a result of a previous theft attempt before I bought the bike.
The crack in the engine wouldn't bother me as long as it runs.
I imagine if you use a large flat bladed screwdriver then you'll be able to free off the tank lock. Maybe some gentle tapping with a hammer. Even just wiggling it side to side to get it started, then trying the key. If you don't have any luck, then can just try just forcing it with the screwdriver.
Another possibiliity is drilling the wafers in the lock.
You can replace the tank lock for any second hand one. The lock can be disassembled to remove the wafers. I removed all wafers from mine so any key will open it, but no one can tell from looking at it. I had to do this as tank lock was a different key from my ignition. This is not original, but a result of a previous theft attempt before I bought the bike.
Edited by johnsmith222 on Wednesday 4th December 03:43
Hi Guys,
Just to clear one thing up, apologies for the confusion.
Because it was an import from Europe and first registered in the UK in 1999, it wont be Tax and MOT exempt tor another 5 years.
I'm just down the road from QB Motorcycles and will call in and show them the photo and report what they say, just to advise the next owner...
Keep watching etc
Just to clear one thing up, apologies for the confusion.
Because it was an import from Europe and first registered in the UK in 1999, it wont be Tax and MOT exempt tor another 5 years.
I'm just down the road from QB Motorcycles and will call in and show them the photo and report what they say, just to advise the next owner...
Keep watching etc
lancepar said:
Hi Guys,
Just to clear one thing up, apologies for the confusion.
Because it was an import from Europe and first registered in the UK in 1999, it wont be Tax and MOT exempt tor another 5 years.
I'm just down the road from QB Motorcycles and will call in and show them the photo and report what they say, just to advise the next owner...
Keep watching etc
Yep, all good re the engine casing crack as the engine is not a stressed area, good news for next owner.Just to clear one thing up, apologies for the confusion.
Because it was an import from Europe and first registered in the UK in 1999, it wont be Tax and MOT exempt tor another 5 years.
I'm just down the road from QB Motorcycles and will call in and show them the photo and report what they say, just to advise the next owner...
Keep watching etc
I've put it on the Web for £300.00 ono
lancepar said:
Yep, all good re the engine casing crack as the engine is not a stressed area, good news for next owner.
I've put it on the Web for £300.00 ono
Is it 5 years or 15 years until the MOT and tax exemption? Online it says since "first built or registered" but not sure which it is. If it's going from 1999 then it'll be another 15 years.I've put it on the Web for £300.00 ono
lancepar said:
After thought,,,,,,,,,,,What about MOT time?
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Hello, MOT tester here. ]
Look in the manual, its public domain.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-...
Defect Category
(a) A engine mounting or bracket:
(i) severely damaged or deteriorated resulting in excessive movement....Major failure.
(ii) fractured, missing or excessively loose .......dangerous failure.
I'd advise on that.
Edited by fred bloggs on Wednesday 11th December 16:33
Edited by fred bloggs on Wednesday 11th December 16:35
Edited by fred bloggs on Wednesday 11th December 16:36
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