Completely motorbikes… gone?

Completely motorbikes… gone?

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Turn7

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24,153 posts

228 months

Sunday 6th October
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Doesn’t sound to good today for the group….

Remains to be seen what happens I guess.


Rufus Stone

8,224 posts

63 months

Sunday 6th October
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I visited the Hinckley outlet a few weeks back. I found it strange there were no prices any anything. You had to scan a QR code to find out. Bit of a phaff and I'm one of those strange people without their phone glued to their hand 24/7.

Alex Z

1,511 posts

83 months

Sunday 6th October
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Yes, they are in administration rather than liquidation, and closed for a couple of days for stock take.
As is always the way, there’s customers with bikes booked in for service work or people who have paid for new machines but not yet collected them.

Staff at the Worcester Ducati dealers are as much in the dark as anyone else and had no idea this was coming.

Rhonda

1,744 posts

254 months

Sunday 6th October
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It’s a shame as the Hinkley branch was always great to go and have a nose at loads of bikes and their bikes were always presented really well. The value of the stock must have been ££££

Turn7

Original Poster:

24,153 posts

228 months

Sunday 6th October
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These chain groups never seem to last very long do they ?

rodericb

7,253 posts

133 months

Sunday 6th October
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Turn7 said:
These chain groups never seem to last very long do they ?
They're only as strong as their weakest, umm, store.

Forester1965

2,796 posts

10 months

Sunday 6th October
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Possibly depends on the business model and how much debt the business has to service from day to day trading operations.

If you run a low margin, high volume model targeting the price conscious and you're heavily indebted from scaling, any sudden downturn in volume and/ or upturn in costs can leave you exposed. No idea about this particular business but you often see something go from very successful to not very successful quickly because of that type of scenario.

KTMsm

27,665 posts

270 months

Sunday 6th October
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Rufus Stone said:
I visited the Hinckley outlet a few weeks back. I found it strange there were no prices any anything.

You had to scan a QR code to find out. Bit of a phaff and I'm one of those strange people without their phone glued to their hand 24/7.
It's quite an ingenious way around planning regulations and expensive glass showrooms and rates

It's not a showroom - it's a distribution center ! Which is why they can't openly display the prices

wink


KTMsm

27,665 posts

270 months

Sunday 6th October
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I find it very frustrating that people can set up these businesses, like Cazoo and Completely - they have a lavish lifestyle, paid for by the company and generally they walk away with millions

Whilst the Shareholders / Banks / employees / taxpayers pay for their failure

If the Directors were held personally liable, I suspect we'd have less of these companies set up / fail


A993LAD

1,756 posts

228 months

Thursday 10th October
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I hear they were taking deposits, full payments and part ex bikes days before they went under. Little hope of these customers receiving their new bikes or getting their money back I fear.

I see they had car outlets as well as bike shops, both under the Completely Motoring Group umbrella. Is the car business still operating?

KTMsm

27,665 posts

270 months

Thursday 10th October
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A993LAD said:
I hear they were taking deposits, full payments and part ex bikes days before they went under. Little hope of these customers receiving their new bikes or getting their money back I fear.

I see they had car outlets as well as bike shops, both under the Completely Motoring Group umbrella. Is the car business still operating?
As they've gone into Administration I fully expect any deals to be honored

Administrators will be trying to get money in, the best way to do that is to sell bikes




OverSteery

3,667 posts

238 months

Thursday 10th October
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KTMsm said:
A993LAD said:
I hear they were taking deposits, full payments and part ex bikes days before they went under. Little hope of these customers receiving their new bikes or getting their money back I fear.

I see they had car outlets as well as bike shops, both under the Completely Motoring Group umbrella. Is the car business still operating?
As they've gone into Administration I fully expect any deals to be honored

Administrators will be trying to get money in, the best way to do that is to sell bikes
I believe they have given notice to enter Administration, not actually gone into Administration. I don't think they are allowed to make new sales

ujio

370 posts

177 months

Thursday 10th October
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Can anyone confirm if P&H motorcycles in Crawley is also closing down?

Biker 1

7,893 posts

126 months

Friday 11th October
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ujio said:
Can anyone confirm if P&H motorcycles in Crawley is also closing down?
A mate went in just over a week ago & reckoned something was up. New bikes apparently being moved out the showroom - he seemed to think Superbike Factory were taking over. I rode past last weekend but didn't have time to check things out. Their website appears to be running normally: https://phmotorcycles.co.uk/

Matty Karate

8 posts

159 months

Friday 11th October
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Good video on YouTube.

trickywoo

12,299 posts

237 months

Friday 11th October
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ujio said:
Can anyone confirm if P&H motorcycles in Crawley is also closing down?
They are as good as gone.

Website still being up is actually a bad thing because it shows they either don’t have the staff or will to update it.

Rumour is that Superbike factory might take the premises.

ujio

370 posts

177 months

Friday 11th October
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Thanks for confirming that both, wasn't sure why the website seemed like it was operating as normal.

Would make sense if Superbike Factory took the premises as that is a lot of real estate there. Also, I would love something for my local biking needs!

KTMsm

27,665 posts

270 months

Friday 11th October
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Matty Karate said:
Good video on YouTube.
The only one I found was rubbish - speculating, without any facts for 10 minutes, is pointless

Wacky Racer

38,978 posts

254 months

Friday 11th October
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KTMsm

27,665 posts

270 months

Friday 11th October
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Wacky Racer said:
That's the rubbish one - there's no new information or facts in it

Big group expanded rapidly through borrowing, has gone bust because of cost of borrowing...

I've just saved the rest of you 10 minutes