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Had a test ride of a Tuono and the CBR600RR today. Enjoyed both but preferred the Tuono. Despite being fully faired I didn’t think there was much difference with wind buffeting and the Honda was noisier (buzzier) sitting at 70 on the motorway. It was much less comfortable too (I am not bike fit at the moment).
I was doing some maths in my head on the way back from the dealer.
New bike is £15.5k. Over three years I would expect to lose around £6k. Insurance for three years around £2500 (if I don’t make any claims). Petrol around £2500 and perhaps £1000 for servicing and tyres. So around £12,000 or £4000 a year.
Realistically I probably wouldn’t get out on the bike more than 20 times a year (given the weather in the UK).
That equates to around £200 for each day of use. Punchy.
I was doing some maths in my head on the way back from the dealer.
New bike is £15.5k. Over three years I would expect to lose around £6k. Insurance for three years around £2500 (if I don’t make any claims). Petrol around £2500 and perhaps £1000 for servicing and tyres. So around £12,000 or £4000 a year.
Realistically I probably wouldn’t get out on the bike more than 20 times a year (given the weather in the UK).
That equates to around £200 for each day of use. Punchy.
Skeptisk said:
Had a test ride of a Tuono and the CBR600RR today. Enjoyed both but preferred the Tuono. Despite being fully faired I didn’t think there was much difference with wind buffeting and the Honda was noisier (buzzier) sitting at 70 on the motorway. It was much less comfortable too (I am not bike fit at the moment).
I was doing some maths in my head on the way back from the dealer.
New bike is £15.5k. Over three years I would expect to lose around £6k. Insurance for three years around £2500 (if I don’t make any claims). Petrol around £2500 and perhaps £1000 for servicing and tyres. So around £12,000 or £4000 a year.
Realistically I probably wouldn’t get out on the bike more than 20 times a year (given the weather in the UK).
That equates to around £200 for each day of use. Punchy.
Your figures are all over the show. £2.5k in fuel is about 13k miles at 35mpg. You would therefore be doing 200 miles for each of those 60 days riding over three years.I was doing some maths in my head on the way back from the dealer.
New bike is £15.5k. Over three years I would expect to lose around £6k. Insurance for three years around £2500 (if I don’t make any claims). Petrol around £2500 and perhaps £1000 for servicing and tyres. So around £12,000 or £4000 a year.
Realistically I probably wouldn’t get out on the bike more than 20 times a year (given the weather in the UK).
That equates to around £200 for each day of use. Punchy.
I’d suggest that would be 4 rear tyres on a Tuono at £200 a go and two fronts at £150 a go. That’s your £1k without any servicing.
It's funny, I had a conversation the other night about people buying new bikes, throwing accessories on them, hardly using them then trading them in for a new model a couple of years later. Usually the people who wobble along the same routes to the same destination a dozen times a year, when the weather's nice and the chores are done. If you want a toy and can afford it, that's up to you. If you're thinking that way perhaps get an older bike, maybe two or three years old, lots of accessories on it... 
I've had a bike and compeltely failed to use it for a whole year, so the cost per ride is about £200, tax insurance, MOT.
The morning out to get it mot'd was quite nice so I don't begrudge it.
Other years have been better
There is value in knowing you've got a bike in the garage, as spare transport.
It has saved mne a lot of money over the years, if you've got a bike as backup, you can run a sheddier car.
I reckon some pedal bikers are in a similar place for cost per mile?
The morning out to get it mot'd was quite nice so I don't begrudge it.
Other years have been better
There is value in knowing you've got a bike in the garage, as spare transport.
It has saved mne a lot of money over the years, if you've got a bike as backup, you can run a sheddier car.
I reckon some pedal bikers are in a similar place for cost per mile?
Buy 3 years old and save the depreciation, that makes the man maths much easier to justify. Its even easier with cars that depreciate even worse than bikes, 3-4 year old and less than half price. Im thankful that millions of people are buying new on PCP, driving few miles and trading them in again 
There has to be a point where you do so few miles each year you may as well just join a bike hire club like Spyderclub, and have a choice of dozens of different bikes to do a few hundred miles per weekend for 6-10 weekends per year.
There has to be a point where you do so few miles each year you may as well just join a bike hire club like Spyderclub, and have a choice of dozens of different bikes to do a few hundred miles per weekend for 6-10 weekends per year.
hiccy18 said:
It's funny, I had a conversation the other night about people buying new bikes, throwing accessories on them, hardly using them then trading them in for a new model a couple of years later. Usually the people who wobble along the same routes to the same destination a dozen times a year, when the weather's nice and the chores are done. If you want a toy and can afford it, that's up to you. If you're thinking that way perhaps get an older bike, maybe two or three years old, lots of accessories on it...
My mate has just bought one of these bikes. 6 years old and 3k miles. It’s got literally £1000’s in accessories on it for someone to barely ride it. I think he’s bought a great bike for the money.
t weather. Twenty ride outs a year might be optimistic!You can have just as much fun on a 10 or 15 year old bike as you can on a brand new one, and if you buy right and can work on it youself and sell it for a profit then start over, or choose the right appreciating classic you can end up riding for free.
Buying a brand new bike is a luxury for people with excess money to burn in the hope of an easy life, but if you end up resenting what the bike is costing you whats the point?
Buying a brand new bike is a luxury for people with excess money to burn in the hope of an easy life, but if you end up resenting what the bike is costing you whats the point?
Never understood people buying new bikes, at least if they have any money concerns
I've got a CBR600 F4i in the garage, cost me £1,400 3 years ago, worth probably £2k, it's capabilities far exceed mine
I've got newer bikes too, at worst they are still worth what I paid - generally I make a small profit on my personal bikes, which covers the other costs
Really they only cost me fuel - so a cheap day out, unless I get a speeding ticket
I've got a CBR600 F4i in the garage, cost me £1,400 3 years ago, worth probably £2k, it's capabilities far exceed mine
I've got newer bikes too, at worst they are still worth what I paid - generally I make a small profit on my personal bikes, which covers the other costs
Really they only cost me fuel - so a cheap day out, unless I get a speeding ticket
OldGermanHeaps said:
You can have just as much fun on a 10 or 15 year old bike as you can on a brand new one, and if you buy right and can work on it youself and sell it for a profit then start over, or choose the right appreciating classic you can end up riding for free.
Buying a brand new bike is a luxury for people with excess money to burn in the hope of an easy life, but if you end up resenting what the bike is costing you whats the point?
Over the decades I’ve wasted lots on cars so bikes have always seemed “cheaper”, despite still being expensive. Buying a brand new bike is a luxury for people with excess money to burn in the hope of an easy life, but if you end up resenting what the bike is costing you whats the point?
Generally I do like buying new as you know the history, you know it hasn’t been treated unsympathetically from a mechanical perspective , it comes with a warranty and it comes with the electronic safety net (a bit of peace of mind for some of us).
Skeptisk said:
Over the decades I’ve wasted lots on cars so bikes have always seemed “cheaper”, despite still being expensive.
Generally I do like buying new as you know the history, you know it hasn’t been treated unsympathetically from a mechanical perspective , it comes with a warranty and it comes with the electronic safety net (a bit of peace of mind for some of us).
I bought my first bike new. Made sense as I needed it for daily transport and absolutely nobody I knew was into motorbikes. As such, my parents and I were worried bout buying something damaged, and it gave us all piece of mind. Generally I do like buying new as you know the history, you know it hasn’t been treated unsympathetically from a mechanical perspective , it comes with a warranty and it comes with the electronic safety net (a bit of peace of mind for some of us).
Once you have a bike it gets a lot, lot easier
OldGermanHeaps said:
You can have just as much fun on a 10 or 15 year old bike as you can on a brand new one, and if you buy right and can work on it youself and sell it for a profit then start over, or choose the right appreciating classic you can end up riding for free.
Buying a brand new bike is a luxury for people with excess money to burn in the hope of an easy life, but if you end up resenting what the bike is costing you whats the point?
I am thinking about alternatives. I’ve had an itch to own a K5/K6 GSxR 1000. Values for decent bikes seem to have settled at around £5k so it shouldn’t depreciate. I have heard the engine is fairly bullet proof and delivers power lowdown so great for riding on the road. Buying a brand new bike is a luxury for people with excess money to burn in the hope of an easy life, but if you end up resenting what the bike is costing you whats the point?
Despite having no ABS or safety aids (unlike Tuono) it is cheaper to insure too.
Skeptisk said:
Over the decades I’ve wasted lots on cars so bikes have always seemed “cheaper”, despite still being expensive.
Generally I do like buying new as you know the history, you know it hasn’t been treated unsympathetically from a mechanical perspective , it comes with a warranty and it comes with the electronic safety net (a bit of peace of mind for some of us).
Well, thats how you land on £200 a ride without realising.Generally I do like buying new as you know the history, you know it hasn’t been treated unsympathetically from a mechanical perspective , it comes with a warranty and it comes with the electronic safety net (a bit of peace of mind for some of us).
Almost as expensive as a wife.
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