BMW 750 RR for 2025?

[Caddyshack]

If it’s true that 2025 will see the launch of S750RR that could be the perfect sports road bike. 145hp. A bike you can ride hard (Ish) and not a lumpy twin like most, it’s a creamy inline 4.

[Caddyshack]

It might be a triple…that would make sense if using a version of the 1000 engine.

[Caddyshack]

[poo at Paul's]

Surely the GS is already there for buyers who are not man enough for a proper thou sports bike?

[Caddyshack]

poo at Paul's said:

Surely the GS is already there for buyers who are not man enough for a proper thou sports bike?

Oooh, get her! lol.

I think I would ride a 1000 too fast on the road. I would use it for my next step up from my GSXR 600 (I also have a Ducati 950 multi). Passed my bike test about 18 months ago.

Many people I have spoken to with 1000cc bikes say the road sweet spot is 750hp and 120 to 150hp.

My 600 is 125hp which is insanely fast when above 10k revs (redline 15500) but it would be nice if I could get near double the torque low down.

[Exasperated]

Caddyshack said:

Many people I have spoken to with 1000cc bikes say the road sweet spot is 750hp

Who the hell are you talking to!?

[Caddyshack]

Exasperated said:

Caddyshack said:

Many people I have spoken to with 1000cc bikes say the road sweet spot is 750hp

Who the hell are you talking to!?

Long term bikers.

If you need 200hp on the road you may need some lessons.

I ride with guys on Streetfighter V4’s etc and they cannot use all the revs on the road, one was popping wheelies at 135mph

I have my ego in check enough to know that I don’t have the talent to use 200hp on the road.

I am happy with the speeds my 600 can do, 140mph is a few gear changes away, I would just appreciate a bit more torque below 10,000 rpm.

[Exasperated]

Caddyshack said:

Long term bikers.

If you need 200hp on the road you may need some lessons.

I ride with guys on Streetfighter V4’s etc and they cannot use all the revs on the road, one was popping wheelies at 135mph

I have my ego in check enough to know that I don’t have the talent to use 200hp on the road.

I am happy with the speeds my 600 can do, 140mph is a few gear changes away, I would just appreciate a bit more torque below 10,000 rpm.

I think you may have missed the typo

[Caddyshack]

Exasperated said:

Caddyshack said:

Long term bikers.

If you need 200hp on the road you may need some lessons.

I ride with guys on Streetfighter V4’s etc and they cannot use all the revs on the road, one was popping wheelies at 135mph

I have my ego in check enough to know that I don’t have the talent to use 200hp on the road.

I am happy with the speeds my 600 can do, 140mph is a few gear changes away, I would just appreciate a bit more torque below 10,000 rpm.

I think you may have missed the typo

Ah yes, meant 750cc

[rodericb]

If it's a 750cc version of the 1000RR it'll need a fair bit of de-contenting to get it price-competitive. I'd be surprised if it's a triple as they can't just chop one cylinder off like they did for the K75, or peen a cylinder over like Jaguar did to that V8....

Maybe it'll be F750GS with lower handlbars and "sportier" bodywork....

[ChocolateFrog]

Exasperated said:

Caddyshack said:

Many people I have spoken to with 1000cc bikes say the road sweet spot is 750hp

Who the hell are you talking to!?

I remember the magazines saying that in the 90's before all the manufacturers drifted away from 750's.

Never understood it myself. You want torque for the road. If you're continuously bouncing around in the top 2000rpm on anything on the road then you're being antisocial at the very least.

[black-k1]

Caddyshack said:

Long term bikers.

If you need 200hp on the road you may need some lessons.

I ride with guys on Streetfighter V4’s etc and they cannot use all the revs on the road, one was popping wheelies at 135mph

I have my ego in check enough to know that I don’t have the talent to use 200hp on the road.

I am happy with the speeds my 600 can do, 140mph is a few gear changes away, I would just appreciate a bit more torque below 10,000 rpm.

This reminded me of the George Carlin quote: "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?"

The implication from your post is that some riders might "need" 145bhp for the road. No one needs 100bhp, never mind anything more. People "like" more. Can they use all of that bhp safely on the road? Only very occasionally, but that doesn't stop people wanting it.

To make the 750 work they're going to have to make it smaller and lighter than the 1000. I don't think anyone will want a castrated 1000. Making it smaller and lighter will make it harder to fold old joints into the position required by the bike. (That''s the main reason why adventure bikes sell so well.)

It is for these reasons that I think that, unless a S750RR was very competitively priced, it'll struggle to find a customer base. All too often people talk about "sweet spot" products but then continue to buy the extremes.

[Caddyshack]

The new CBR600rr and re released zx6r are getting rave reviews as road bikes - as a breath of fresh air almost. The 400 screamer is also finding customers.

I believe the GSXR750 is the perfect road bike for me but I haven’t bought one as they dropped production here and the older bikes lack ABS and traction etc.

I think a modern bike with 6 axis IMU and all the good factors of the s1000rr will be great in 750.

I tried the S1000R with 165hp and that was easily enough power for that chassis. IMO

[Caddyshack]

rodericb said:

If it's a 750cc version of the 1000RR it'll need a fair bit of de-contenting to get it price-competitive. I'd be surprised if it's a triple as they can't just chop one cylinder off like they did for the K75, or peen a cylinder over like Jaguar did to that V8....

Maybe it'll be F750GS with lower handlbars and "sportier" bodywork....

Weirdly, for me I would not be worried if the price was not too far different to the 1000. It might just be a smaller pot inline 4? I read conflicting views.


I found the 1000 on the road a bit frustrating as I like to be able to work an engine, it did about 100mph in first gear and just kept piling on the speed through the gears.

The F750GS as a road bike would take the wind out of my sails but I don't think they would be getting the predicted 145hp from that engine....let's hope it is not that!

[Timbo_S2]

I own a track only S1000RR. I keep thinking I'd have more fun on a 600 or similar. This sounds perfect for me.

750cc 4 cylinder, all the electrcoincs and data aquisition, bit lighter than the 1000. Hopefully cheaper tyre bills also!

[Caddyshack]

Timbo_S2 said:

I own a track only S1000RR. I keep thinking I'd have more fun on a 600 or similar. This sounds perfect for me.

750cc 4 cylinder, all the electrcoincs and data aquisition, bit lighter than the 1000. Hopefully cheaper tyre bills also!

I was expecting much more of these type of posts when I made the thread...so far it has been like a fart in a space suit.


a lot of Track day riders tell me that a 600 is quicker in the bends and the 1000cc bikes come past on the straights, if that is the case I expect the 600 would be cheaper to run and may be a good thing to learn on for me.

[Steve Bass]

Caddyshack said:

Timbo_S2 said:

I own a track only S1000RR. I keep thinking I'd have more fun on a 600 or similar. This sounds perfect for me.

750cc 4 cylinder, all the electrcoincs and data aquisition, bit lighter than the 1000. Hopefully cheaper tyre bills also!

I was expecting much more of these type of posts when I made the thread...so far it has been like a fart in a space suit.


a lot of Track day riders tell me that a 600 is quicker in the bends and the 1000cc bikes come past on the straights, if that is the case I expect the 600 would be cheaper to run and may be a good thing to learn on for me.

I ran a Ducati 1100 /Aprilia RSV4 and a Triumph 675 for the track.
Depending on the track, the 675 was not too far off the Superbike pace (when I was moderately good ) but the 675 was more "busy " to ride. Typical, litre bikes are point and shoot whereas a 600 needs corner speed as it can't hold a candle to the litre bike in a straight line.
As for costs, the 675 was used for endurance racing as it needed less rear tyres than a superbike over an 8 hour race factoring the reduced number of pitstops vs the slower lap times.
At Kyalami, the outright record was held by Sheridan Morais on a ,600 for a significant time until the track layout changes which really benefited the litre bikes.
One thing worth noting is that riding a 600 on track you WILL get into outbraking the litre bikes into corners only to get passed on the way out. Eventually you will drop them enough to stay ahead bit be prepared to get baulked or slowed down in the process

Edited by Steve Bass on Wednesday 31st July 21:55

[Triaguar]

There are a few YouTube promotional videos out....they all refer to it being a triple

[Triaguar]

My guess would be linked to Steve Bass's post about the new Panigale particularly it's pricing point. BMW are missing a trick by not having an outrageously priced road bike. So my hypothesis is S750 RR fits in at current 100rr price point and a new 100RR will appear at a much higher price point.

[Caddyshack]

Triaguar said:

My guess would be linked to Steve Bass's post about the new Panigale particularly it's pricing point. BMW are missing a trick by not having an outrageously priced road bike. So my hypothesis is S750 RR fits in at current 100rr price point and a new 100RR will appear at a much higher price point.

The M bikes have started to push the price envelope so that would make sense