Lubricating Non O Ring Chains
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I seem to recall a thing where roller chains were "cooked" in a pan of oil to lubriate them.... is this still a thing?
The chain on the RS is a non O ring type as they are not a stiff as O ring chains which is beneficial for low power bikes....
If so, normal engine oil or just simply lather in chain lube and enjoy??
Any feedback from the classic brigade would be great
The chain on the RS is a non O ring type as they are not a stiff as O ring chains which is beneficial for low power bikes....
If so, normal engine oil or just simply lather in chain lube and enjoy??
Any feedback from the classic brigade would be great
Still available from all good auction sites
But look at the price
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394571927812?chn=ps&...
But look at the price
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394571927812?chn=ps&...
Sorry for the multiple posts.
Well worth trying.
The contemporary version is Putoline
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124153489018?_trkparms=...
Well worth trying.
The contemporary version is Putoline
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124153489018?_trkparms=...
RGG said:
Sorry for the multiple posts.
Well worth trying.
The contemporary version is Putoline
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124153489018?_trkparms=...
Brilliant, many thanks Well worth trying.
The contemporary version is Putoline
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124153489018?_trkparms=...
I used to heat my old bikes chains in oil, it revived rusty old chains for a hard up 13yr old
I nearly burnt the barn down when it caught fire and I threw water on it - I'd only been told not to do so on a chip pan fire and there were no chips involved !
Just boiled up some chainsaw chains after they got gummed up with pine sap worked a treat
Not needed if you take care of your chain, I use a tooth brush and gear oil
I nearly burnt the barn down when it caught fire and I threw water on it - I'd only been told not to do so on a chip pan fire and there were no chips involved !
Just boiled up some chainsaw chains after they got gummed up with pine sap worked a treat
Not needed if you take care of your chain, I use a tooth brush and gear oil
I went to a bike meet recently and the subject got onto chain lube. Jeez, pretty much everyone was an expert and it got heated more than once.
Someone asked me, as I had said nothing, what chain lube I used, I don't said I. And told them they are all being conned as modern chains only need a clean to stop rust, and maybe a squirt of WD40.
I told them I use gear oil and have done for 30 years even on modern bikes, unless the dealer ruins it and sticks the stuff on, and charges me an arm and a leg for the privilege.
There has been multiple tests over the years by various bike bloggers, magazines and influencers and the conclusion is, not really necessary and if you must just use gear oil, but learn how to apply it.
Someone asked me, as I had said nothing, what chain lube I used, I don't said I. And told them they are all being conned as modern chains only need a clean to stop rust, and maybe a squirt of WD40.
I told them I use gear oil and have done for 30 years even on modern bikes, unless the dealer ruins it and sticks the stuff on, and charges me an arm and a leg for the privilege.
There has been multiple tests over the years by various bike bloggers, magazines and influencers and the conclusion is, not really necessary and if you must just use gear oil, but learn how to apply it.
Oh the days of "cooking" chains in tins of black wax on the cooker when Mum wasn't there! 
I used to have 2 chains per one set of sprockets. One chain on the bike, the other sealed in the tin of wax on the shed, waiting to be heated up and swapped.
I am glad those days are now past an that chain maintenance happens on the bike.
As mentioned, we all have our own ways of looking after chains. As for which is "more right" than another is not that easy to judge. Either you'd need to dyno a bike a regular intervals throughout a bikes life to try and estimate power losses associated with chain wear - very difficult because of the cost, practicality and multiple other uncontrollable variables - or you need to look at how long a chain lasts. The chain on my H2 SX lasted over 30k miles and was still (just) within tolerance when it was replaced. For a 256kg, 200+bhp, 110lbft bike, used for brisk road riding, long distance touring (with luggage and, at times, with pillion) I saw that as a reasonable endorsement of the maintenance approach used, centering around an eScottOiler.
I used to have 2 chains per one set of sprockets. One chain on the bike, the other sealed in the tin of wax on the shed, waiting to be heated up and swapped. I am glad those days are now past an that chain maintenance happens on the bike.
As mentioned, we all have our own ways of looking after chains. As for which is "more right" than another is not that easy to judge. Either you'd need to dyno a bike a regular intervals throughout a bikes life to try and estimate power losses associated with chain wear - very difficult because of the cost, practicality and multiple other uncontrollable variables - or you need to look at how long a chain lasts. The chain on my H2 SX lasted over 30k miles and was still (just) within tolerance when it was replaced. For a 256kg, 200+bhp, 110lbft bike, used for brisk road riding, long distance touring (with luggage and, at times, with pillion) I saw that as a reasonable endorsement of the maintenance approach used, centering around an eScottOiler.
nismocat said:
I went to a bike meet recently and the subject got onto chain lube. Jeez, pretty much everyone was an expert and it got heated more than once.
Someone asked me, as I had said nothing, what chain lube I used, I don't said I. And told them they are all being conned as modern chains only need a clean to stop rust, and maybe a squirt of WD40.
I told them I use gear oil and have done for 30 years even on modern bikes, unless the dealer ruins it and sticks the stuff on, and charges me an arm and a leg for the privilege.
There has been multiple tests over the years by various bike bloggers, magazines and influencers and the conclusion is, not really necessary and if you must just use gear oil, but learn how to apply it.
At last, I am not alone. (O Ring Chains though)Someone asked me, as I had said nothing, what chain lube I used, I don't said I. And told them they are all being conned as modern chains only need a clean to stop rust, and maybe a squirt of WD40.
I told them I use gear oil and have done for 30 years even on modern bikes, unless the dealer ruins it and sticks the stuff on, and charges me an arm and a leg for the privilege.
There has been multiple tests over the years by various bike bloggers, magazines and influencers and the conclusion is, not really necessary and if you must just use gear oil, but learn how to apply it.
I get 25k miles out of a modern x-ring chain quite easily, using a Scottoiler. Before fitting it, mileage was notably less, so the oil must be doing something as the care taken of it otherwise is the same - very little. The chain that's on there now (with 74k on the clock) has been on there since almost exactly 50k and is still going strong. I'll be measuring it again tomorrow actually, as part of doing it's annual service, but based on the absence of shark-toothing on either sprocket I'm not expecting it to be near the limits.
nismocat said:
I went to a bike meet recently and the subject got onto chain lube. Jeez, pretty much everyone was an expert and it got heated more than once.
Someone asked me, as I had said nothing, what chain lube I used, I don't said I. And told them they are all being conned as modern chains only need a clean to stop rust, and maybe a squirt of WD40.
I told them I use gear oil and have done for 30 years even on modern bikes, unless the dealer ruins it and sticks the stuff on, and charges me an arm and a leg for the privilege.
There has been multiple tests over the years by various bike bloggers, magazines and influencers and the conclusion is, not really necessary and if you must just use gear oil, but learn how to apply it.
I use a very light coat of gear oil just for a bit of protection, otherwise agree.Someone asked me, as I had said nothing, what chain lube I used, I don't said I. And told them they are all being conned as modern chains only need a clean to stop rust, and maybe a squirt of WD40.
I told them I use gear oil and have done for 30 years even on modern bikes, unless the dealer ruins it and sticks the stuff on, and charges me an arm and a leg for the privilege.
There has been multiple tests over the years by various bike bloggers, magazines and influencers and the conclusion is, not really necessary and if you must just use gear oil, but learn how to apply it.
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