Obsolete part rant
Discussion
So I bought a scruffy Triumph Sprint 955i to spanner up and tidy, fairly rough and neglected but I have time on my hands and love a challenge.
Making slow progress, plenty of swearing, plenty of hammering and, as usual with a 25 year old bike, lots of penetrating oil for the inevitable corrosion.
I'm doing it properly, so bearings, seals and inner sleeves all being replaced as I go on; I am the kind of guy I would love to buy a used bike from.
I have, unfortunately, now hit a dead end.
I need one small spacer to fit inside the needle bearing on one side of the swingarm (single-sided), part No. T2057340.
It's a known 'fairly rubbish' bit of design since the needle bearing doesn't have a lot of grease in it in the first place, there is no seal on the inside face of the bearing, no grease nipple and you need to remove the whole rear end to access it (i.e. it only gets done when it gets picked up at mot time).
Every single one of these I have worked on or seen before has been pitted and replacement has been a matter of course since the part is less than £15.
Except it's now discontinued.
Ok, I could understand if this was a rare and unusual part, only used on one bike, seldom wore out etc however this was used on all the single-sided bikes through the naughties; Daytonas, Sprints, the 1050 sprint and GT, plus also the Speed Triple!
I mean WTF Triumph, there has to be a market for this!
Next options are either get a local engineer to produce one or buy a whole swingarm assembly off ebay which I am reluctant to do for one small sleeve.
Yours,
Angry from Scotland.
Making slow progress, plenty of swearing, plenty of hammering and, as usual with a 25 year old bike, lots of penetrating oil for the inevitable corrosion.
I'm doing it properly, so bearings, seals and inner sleeves all being replaced as I go on; I am the kind of guy I would love to buy a used bike from.
I have, unfortunately, now hit a dead end.
I need one small spacer to fit inside the needle bearing on one side of the swingarm (single-sided), part No. T2057340.
It's a known 'fairly rubbish' bit of design since the needle bearing doesn't have a lot of grease in it in the first place, there is no seal on the inside face of the bearing, no grease nipple and you need to remove the whole rear end to access it (i.e. it only gets done when it gets picked up at mot time).
Every single one of these I have worked on or seen before has been pitted and replacement has been a matter of course since the part is less than £15.
Except it's now discontinued.
Ok, I could understand if this was a rare and unusual part, only used on one bike, seldom wore out etc however this was used on all the single-sided bikes through the naughties; Daytonas, Sprints, the 1050 sprint and GT, plus also the Speed Triple!
I mean WTF Triumph, there has to be a market for this!
Next options are either get a local engineer to produce one or buy a whole swingarm assembly off ebay which I am reluctant to do for one small sleeve.
Yours,
Angry from Scotland.
I encountered a very similar issue with the swingarm bearing sleeves on my XT660Z - after a lot of internet sleuthing it turned out the same part for a load of other bikes (including older XT600 models) was exactly the same size, and a generic swingarm sleeve of the correct dimensions was readily available from the likes of wemoto.
If you've got a set of calipers I'd suggest measuring the size of the offending article and looking around to see if one can be sourced based on the dimensions only, you might find that something unexpected uses a sleeve of the same size and material. Failing that, there's a very helpful chap called Ryan who has a website (partoff.co.uk) who's helped me with some other machining on bike bits and could probably knock a new one up for you with the dimensions for not much more than you'd pay for a new genuine part.
If you've got a set of calipers I'd suggest measuring the size of the offending article and looking around to see if one can be sourced based on the dimensions only, you might find that something unexpected uses a sleeve of the same size and material. Failing that, there's a very helpful chap called Ryan who has a website (partoff.co.uk) who's helped me with some other machining on bike bits and could probably knock a new one up for you with the dimensions for not much more than you'd pay for a new genuine part.
Dimensions are what you need to work out. As others have said it might be worth asking local model engineering groups to help - I did this last year with success.
I seem to remember Triumph dealers having a policy of refusing to work on (their own brand of) bikes that were older than 10 years!
I seem to remember Triumph dealers having a policy of refusing to work on (their own brand of) bikes that were older than 10 years!
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
Is there anything on captivespacers.com - had a similar issue on my 2002 Honda Fireblade
Hmm, possibly not - think what OP is after is effectively the actual inner needle bearing, race which would need to be steel (preferably pretty hard steel). That site seems to sell exclusively wheel spacers made from alloy, so the needle bearing would likely muller it in short order even if one could be found to fit unfortunately. Not Sure if this is the part you are looking for Sprint Manufacturing Part REF: SD580
https://www.triumphparts.co.uk/product/swinging-ar...
Hope this helps.
https://www.triumphparts.co.uk/product/swinging-ar...
Hope this helps.
I think that (in general) manufacturers use off-the-shelf parts for things like this.
If you can get an accurate measurement then a bearing manufacturer should be able to supply you with the part for very little money.
Or better still they should be able to supply you with 100 of them which you can label as the appropriate bike part and sell for 10x the price.
If you can get an accurate measurement then a bearing manufacturer should be able to supply you with the part for very little money.
Or better still they should be able to supply you with 100 of them which you can label as the appropriate bike part and sell for 10x the price.
Tango13 said:
That is actually a really good shout, but this is exactly what I'm looking for.Ynysfach said:
Not Sure if this is the part you are looking for Sprint Manufacturing Part REF: SD580
https://www.triumphparts.co.uk/product/swinging-ar...
Hope this helps.
Brilliant, thanks!https://www.triumphparts.co.uk/product/swinging-ar...
Hope this helps.
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