Shipping Bikes To EU - Carnet Etc
Discussion
Track day organisers are shipping bikes with a Carnet and we, the riders, are responsible for detailing everything that goes out and comes back on the stillage. That works because they're a commercial operator moving the bikes as part of their business.
Transporting bikes personally is a minefield as a Carnet isn't the right document for the job, as it's not a commercial good and, essentially, shouldn't be any different to taking a mountain bike or tennis racket in the back of your van but plenty of people are being stopped and fined (at the French border, the Dutch were absolutely fine).
As for sending a road registered bike without being there yourself...god only knows!! It should be easy because it's just an insured and MOT'd vehicle being used temporarily in a European country but if you're not with it, see previously mentioned minefield.
Wherever it is you're sending it, avoid France is my only advice!
Transporting bikes personally is a minefield as a Carnet isn't the right document for the job, as it's not a commercial good and, essentially, shouldn't be any different to taking a mountain bike or tennis racket in the back of your van but plenty of people are being stopped and fined (at the French border, the Dutch were absolutely fine).
As for sending a road registered bike without being there yourself...god only knows!! It should be easy because it's just an insured and MOT'd vehicle being used temporarily in a European country but if you're not with it, see previously mentioned minefield.
Wherever it is you're sending it, avoid France is my only advice!
KTMsm said:
I'm aware since brexit we can't just ship bikes over for holidays and track days without the owner being present.
But how do the track day guys manage or are they paying for carnets for Portimao etc
I'm curious to know the answer to thisBut how do the track day guys manage or are they paying for carnets for Portimao etc
I had a contact who's business was to ship bikes to France, Italy, Spain, etc for holidays - he made a decent living out of it.
But, post-Brexit, he had to shut the whole thing down as there was just no way to accommodate the paperwork.
Dog Star said:
As an aside - I’m going to be using my wife’s Tenere for a trip this summer (entering/leaving via Rotterdam).
Anyone know what’s the score with that - it’s registered in her name (same address, I’m on her insurance policy etc).
You'll be absolutely fine, vehicles being used aren't subject to anything unusualAnyone know what’s the score with that - it’s registered in her name (same address, I’m on her insurance policy etc).
roboxm3 said:
Track day organisers are shipping bikes with a Carnet and we, the riders, are responsible for detailing everything that goes out and comes back on the stillage. That works because they're a commercial operator moving the bikes as part of their business.
Can I ask what that part costs or is it all bundled into one with the track day ?I thought a carnet was something like 10% of the value of the bike/goods
KTMsm said:
Can I ask what that part costs or is it all bundled into one with the track day ?
I thought a carnet was something like 10% of the value of the bike/goods
It's all included within the cost of the TD.I thought a carnet was something like 10% of the value of the bike/goods
I'm not sure how they/the haulier go about the paperwork side of it but I don't think the maths would work if they were paying 10% of the value of all bikes onboard...
Alex@POD said:
That's something I need to look into for when I'll be taking my track bike to Le Mans in August...I don't think I have found a conclusive answer yet!
If you have a quick Google, my thread comes up from late last year with the best answers I could find about doing it yourself.It's just now another group I'm in, wants to pay someone to move their bikes, hence this thread
One bit that has changed is TD organizers have required a complete itinerary of everything you are taking with you (brake pads, tires etc) and it all has to go back - so you cant throw anything away - used slicks/pads etc have to come back. They also did not allow any consumables to be taken (oils & fluids for example).
KTMsm said:
If you have a quick Google, my thread comes up from late last year with the best answers I could find about doing it yourself.
It's just now another group I'm in, wants to pay someone to move their bikes, hence this thread
I had read your thread, it is one of the most recent discussions on this and very informative, but that's also full of anecdotes where some people need a carnet and others don't It's just now another group I'm in, wants to pay someone to move their bikes, hence this thread
. I think things are clearer if someone else ships the bikes for you, on TDO websites they have guidance and links as to what to fill in, e.g. Focused Events
For me taking the bike in the camper makes things very confusing, I'm certainly not about to declare every tool and bit of rag I take with me in case I need to fix the van at the roadside...
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