Dashcam Footage Used By Police

[KTMsm]

I'm aware it happens but the numbers claimed seem high for Devon and Cornwall

"Thanks to the efforts of the public, we have been able to take action against almost 10,000 drivers who may have otherwise escaped prosecution"

https://www.visordown.com/news/general/thousands-b...

[Drawweight]

It’s probably modified my riding slightly.

I never was one for the mental riding but now even nipping past on double yellows I think twice about.

So I suppose it’s doing its job but I don’t have to like it.

[kiethton]

KTMsm said:

I'm aware it happens but the numbers claimed seem high for Devon and Cornwall

"Thanks to the efforts of the public, we have been able to take action against almost 10,000 drivers who may have otherwise escaped prosecution"

https://www.visordown.com/news/general/thousands-b...

Don't get what the issue is with the overtaking BMW

Lines are broken so that's ok, dash car seemed to be doing a fraction of the speed limit and visibility was good

[IJWS15]

If you don’t drive/ride like a xxxx you don’t have anything to worry about.

I have a dash cam and in 8 years have submitted one clip. I could submit clips every time I went out - handheld mobile phone use, ignoring Red traffic lights …

[iidentifyaswoke]

IJWS15 said:

If you don’t drive/ride like a xxxx you don’t have anything to worry about.

I have a dash cam and in 8 years have submitted one clip. I could submit clips every time I went out - handheld mobile phone use, ignoring Red traffic lights …

That is not always correct. You do what I and almost all other people do, which is rarely report and only when it is genuinely dangerous driving.
Once you start viewing the YT/Twitter channels of the camera cyclists who submit about half of all reports in London, you will note that they will report anything. For example, here
https://twitter.com/ChaponaBike123/status/17444911...

ChaponaBike. A camera cyclist who does daily reports about driving which is really just normal driving.
In this footage linked above, he is riding about 3 metres out from the kerb. The van in the photo overtook him, leaving perhaps slightly less than a 1.5m gap due to his position around 3m from the kerb. He reported the van driver.

As I said, in London, roughly 10 million people do 8,000 reports a year. About 20 camera cyclists do the other 8,000 reports.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

So if use the right turn only lane to jump to the front overtaking say 10 cars in one go just as the light goes green I could be prosecuted for reckless?


Oh my.

[iidentifyaswoke]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

So if use the right turn only lane to jump to the front overtaking say 10 cars in one go just as the light goes green I could be prosecuted for reckless?


Oh my.

If there is a right arrow and text which says “turn right”, then not turning right is an absolute offence.

If it is a right turn arrow only, with no text, then it is advisory only. To be prosecuted, you would need to do something else which is careless.

[trickywoo]

KTMsm said:

I'm aware it happens but the numbers claimed seem high for Devon and Cornwall

"Thanks to the efforts of the public, we have been able to take action against almost 10,000 drivers who may have otherwise escaped prosecution"

https://www.visordown.com/news/general/thousands-b...

Its 10k since 2019. I would expect the take action would mean a letter in the post for lots of them.

[KTMsm]

iidentifyaswoke said:

The police won't prosecute speeding based on third party footage.

Most of the reports the aforementioned s do are:
1. Mobile phone usage
2. Passing within 1.5 metres of their poncy bicycle
3. Driving/riding contrary to a road sign or road marking (no entry, wrong side of a keep left bollard, overtaking on double whites etc).

FYI I don't support bad driving or mobile phone use at all, I just don't like s who wish they were the Stasi living in East Germany, but have no roadcraft and make it a hobby to inform on their fellow citizens.

As a further FYI, it is lawful to overtake pedal cycles across double whites, provided the pedal cycle is travelling less than 10mph. 10mph is measured by a calibrated device, not the GPS on one of these s on a bicycle.

There is one on Twitter, "Warwickshire Cyclist" who will do a report anybody that does not cross fully onto the other side of the road when overtaking. I don't know how many of his reports the police act on, but he is another daily reporter who does it for a hobby.

To reitterate, few people will report anything, except a handful of camera cyclists.

Problem is I overtake on double whites multiple times a day, they are everywhere around here, on roads that used to be NSL

The other day in a 5 mile ride, I over took 4 cars all driving below 35 in a 50, on a wide country A road - I just can't sit there like a zombie

They were all absolutely safe to do but obviously illegal

[trickywoo]

KTMsm said:

Problem is I overtake on double whites multiple times a day, they are everywhere around here, on roads that used to be NSL

The other day in a 5 mile ride, I over took 4 cars all driving below 35 in a 50, on a wide country A road - I just can't sit there like a zombie

They were all absolutely safe to do but obviously illegal

I have double whites like that near me, it would be 100% safe for a car overtake never mind a bike. I don't overtake on them because of cams but I will do, lets say, speeds in overtakes.

Trouble with double whites is that even if they aren't correctly placed its still clear cut if you cross them in an overtake. It also opens up a DD charge if the cops fancy it and it will be lot more trouble for you to defend it than for them to prosecute it.

[Terminator X]

Surely only the saddest of fkers that have the time and inclination to send dashcam footage to the rozzers.

TX.

[stang65]

My "upset" is that they appear to only look at the person complained about.

In the undertake - which had the largest fine/points - they concern themselves with the undertaking offence but there is clearly someone sitting in the overtaking lane unnecessarily. Generally where there's room to undertake, there's room for the car in the overtaking lane to move out of the way. Why is there no mention of the prosecution of the obstruction?

Every day I commute I use a NSL dual carriageway where a minority (but one large enough that you see it nearly every day) sit in the overtaking lane after exiting a roundabout at the start, because they're turning right at the next roundabout (approx. 3 miles) or the one after (approx. a further 2 miles). Sadly the drivers that do this are also the ones that generally sit on a dual carriageway at 50mph. I've tried sitting behind, flashing, beeping, returning to the inside without undertaking, etc. all without effect as these people know they're immune as there's no Police and only speeding is caught on camera. People have jobs to go to so these people are routinely undertaken. Who is the problem, but who gets prosecuted?

The prosecution of the symptom before the cause is pure laziness and causes driving standards to further decline. It your family get meningitis do you expect rash creme?

[trickywoo]

Terminator X said:

Surely only the saddest of fkers that have the time and inclination to send dashcam footage to the rozzers.

TX.

There are lots of them. Its slippery slope and I don't think the powers that be have any idea of the implications of where its going.

If the police are going to use submitted cam footage for prosecutions they need to review say 30 minutes worth each side of the reported incident and prosecute the cam car for any infringements also. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

[Birky_41]

We talk about this now in our group and are more conscious. We all use coms and will give a heads up if we see a car with one

Typically its the lycra cyclists that we are most concerned with

[the cueball]

I haven't changed my riding.. but I don't think I ride like a bellend anyway so don't have anything to really worry about... Not the fastest, not the slowest.. I have a good time and have a nice smooth style of riding that gives me a good average pace over long distances.

I have had 1 person complain to me to the police (that I know about), won't go into all the details but he was the basic fat angry man that didn't like a bike overtaking his cheapsake Jaaaaaaag. Told quite a tail to the police in order for them to contact me about it.

Long story short, I supplied my helmet cam footage to the police which showed him on his phone, speeding and having a wky misplaced 4 D plate... it also showed him brake checking me and my overtake at 50mph in a 60 zone as a result of said brake test.

I have my camera on every time I commute to the office, I see a LOT of bad driving, but as long as they haven't crashed/killed anyone I tend let it slide... the above is the only time I've sent anything in.

There is a portion of my route that has a few double solids and I overtake stationary/very slow moving vehicles as per the highway code.

[Birky_41]

the cueball said:

I haven't changed my riding.. but I don't think I ride like a bellend anyway so don't have anything to really worry about... Not the fastest, not the slowest.. I have a good time and have a nice smooth style of riding that gives me a good average pace over long distances.

I have had 1 person complain to me to the police (that I know about), won't go into all the details but he was the basic fat angry man that didn't like a bike overtaking his cheapsake Jaaaaaaag. Told quite a tail to the police in order for them to contact me about it.

Long story short, I supplied my helmet cam footage to the police which showed him on his phone, speeding and having a wky misplaced 4 D plate... it also showed him brake checking me and my overtake at 50mph in a 60 zone as a result of said brake test.

I have my camera on every time I commute to the office, I see a LOT of bad driving, but as long as they haven't crashed/killed anyone I tend let it slide... the above is the only time I've sent anything in.

There is a portion of my route that has a few double solids and I overtake stationary/very slow moving vehicles as per the highway code.

This is brilliant! Guy tries to grass and gets it back on him. I hope they fined him

[Moulder]

Not in the video, any ideas on this one?

Falling off? Wearing shorts?

Also looks not to be in the UK.

[simon_harris]

kiethton said:

KTMsm said:

I'm aware it happens but the numbers claimed seem high for Devon and Cornwall

"Thanks to the efforts of the public, we have been able to take action against almost 10,000 drivers who may have otherwise escaped prosecution"

https://www.visordown.com/news/general/thousands-b...

Don't get what the issue is with the overtaking BMW

Lines are broken so that's ok, dash car seemed to be doing a fraction of the speed limit and visibility was good

You can't overtake on a hatched area I think.

[trickywoo]

simon_harris said:

kiethton said:

KTMsm said:

I'm aware it happens but the numbers claimed seem high for Devon and Cornwall

"Thanks to the efforts of the public, we have been able to take action against almost 10,000 drivers who may have otherwise escaped prosecution"

https://www.visordown.com/news/general/thousands-b...

Don't get what the issue is with the overtaking BMW

Lines are broken so that's ok, dash car seemed to be doing a fraction of the speed limit and visibility was good

You can't overtake on a hatched area I think.

Hatched area is fine to overtake in unless its bordered by solid whites.

[Billy2023]

I’ve got cameras on all our vehicles including one on my bike helmet. I’ve never considered passing footage onto the police and simply have them as we have found on our work vehicles they are very useful in the case of an accident, I’ve also sacked one of our drivers for driving like a complete c**k after checking a compliant from a someone about an incident.
I am now very tempted to submit footage of the outside and middle lane hoggers I see every day on the M11 and M25. I wonder if they will get prosecuted?