Triumph Speed 400

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Dalmahoy

Original Poster:

186 posts

145 months

Wednesday 24th January
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The good lady has decided to put down a deposit on a new Triumph Speed 400.
She looked at the KTM 390 Super Duke but decided on the Triumph.
Admit despite already owning a few bikes - I'm genuinely looking forward to the new Triumph arriving hopefully mid May.
Seems a cracking wee bike.

Neal H

376 posts

201 months

Wednesday 24th January
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They do look good and very good value!

The reviews all seem very positive as well.

jumpingloci

227 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th January
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Just got mine. It seems a well put together machine. Strong engine. Fast enough for most a and b road riding. Ok on the trails. Obviously needs tyres for trails.





Edited by jumpingloci on Thursday 25th January 11:00

moanthebairns

18,184 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th January
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jumpingloci said:
Just got mine. It seems a well put together machine. Strong engine. Fast enough for most a and b road riding. Ok on the trails. Obviously needs tyres for trails.





Edited by jumpingloci on Thursday 25th January 11:00
This purchase is befitting of its own thread or more on here.

carinaman

22,069 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th January
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A wider, shorter radiator would've caught less mud but that would mess up the styling and Triumph family styling cues.

A wider radiator with more exposed ends would also be more vulnerable to inadvertent drops or offroad mishaps so......



Edited by carinaman on Thursday 25th January 14:05

carinaman

22,069 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th January
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jumpingloci said:
Just got mine. It seems a well put together machine. Strong engine. Fast enough for most a and b road riding. Ok on the trails. Obviously needs tyres for trails.



How did you find the torque curve and low down thrust?

The KTM Duke 390 low end shove tapped into to my inner hooligan as did the throttle adjustability of lines exiting roundabouts. I also liked the pops as standard on the overrun.


Edited by carinaman on Thursday 25th January 14:25

Biker9090

1,136 posts

44 months

Thursday 25th January
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Am I right in thinking that the engine is practically identical to the KTM 390?

carinaman

22,069 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th January
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The review I read said it was tuned for top end power.

Sorry a link to a blog not the review I read that says the engine is tuned for revs rather than traditional thumper low end thrust:

https://www.reddit.com/r/indianbikes/comments/1763...


The review to me read like that being set up for top end revs may mean the bike isn't as economical as a single tuned for low end torque. I am not a riding god, I like torque.

carinaman

22,069 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th January
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Biker9090 said:
Am I right in thinking that the engine is practically identical to the KTM 390?
MCN says it's a new engine. It doesn't look like the KTM 390 engine and the cubic capacity is different.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/triu...

Another difference would be riding position. The Duke 390 is a riding the front wheel forward biased riding position rather than neutral.

Edited by carinaman on Thursday 25th January 15:17

jumpingloci

227 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th January
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carinaman said:
How did you find the torque curve and low down thrust?

The KTM Duke 390 low end shove tapped into to my inner hooligan as did the throttle adjustability of lines exiting roundabouts. I also liked the pops as standard on the overrun.


Edited by carinaman on Thursday 25th January 14:25
I have a 390 Adventure and I'd say the Triumph feels noticeably stronger down low than that bike, though it is lower geared as well.

From what I can see the engine is the same in so many ways as the new 399cc 390 Duke engine (the adventure still gets the old 373cc engine). The Triumph and KTM both have the same bore and stroke and I'd just be amazed if the same factory is churning two identical but different engines.


carinaman

22,069 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th January
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jumpingloci said:
I have a 390 Adventure and I'd say the Triumph feels noticeably stronger down low than that bike, though it is lower geared as well.

From what I can see the engine is the same in so many ways as the new 399cc 390 Duke engine (the adventure still gets the old 373cc engine). The Triumph and KTM both have the same bore and stroke and I'd just be amazed if the same factory is churning two identical but different engines.
Thank you. I was wrong.

I hadn't realised the latest iteration of the 390 Duke had dropped the 373cc engine.

The lower gearing of the Triumph may help explain the review I read saying the fuel economy isn't that great for a small capacity single.




Edited by carinaman on Thursday 25th January 23:13

carinaman

22,069 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th January
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Biker9090 said:
Am I right in thinking that the engine is practically identical to the KTM 390?
You were correct and I was wrong.

PT1984

2,563 posts

190 months

Sunday 28th January
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UK reviews are out on the Speed and Scrambler and there is a lot of praise.

jumpingloci

227 posts

222 months

Sunday 28th January
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My first trail review of if. it does pretty good all things considered

https://youtu.be/h9995Y4ZYZ8?si=buYQfHRj2vEp1TGv

PT1984

2,563 posts

190 months

Sunday 28th January
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jumpingloci said:
My first trail review of if. it does pretty good all things considered

https://youtu.be/h9995Y4ZYZ8?si=buYQfHRj2vEp1TGv
I was going to quote that video as one to watch, but wasn’t sure if it was you!

jumpingloci

227 posts

222 months

Sunday 28th January
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Yeah she took a bit of scrubbing up. A bigger hugger wouldn't go amiss

Edited by jumpingloci on Monday 29th January 02:38

TuonoPants

294 posts

151 months

Monday 29th January
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Nice looking bike, Triumph are really hitting the mark at the moment.

Nice youtube review here that goes into all the details


Bob_Defly

4,070 posts

238 months

Monday 29th January
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jumpingloci said:
My first trail review of if. it does pretty good all things considered

https://youtu.be/h9995Y4ZYZ8?si=buYQfHRj2vEp1TGv
Great review! Man you really tested the limits of that front tyre, I was very surprised you didn't bin it around some of those muddy corners, well done!