First steps to obtaining motorcycle licence...

First steps to obtaining motorcycle licence...

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D1on

Original Poster:

804 posts

192 months

Tuesday 19th December 2023
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In the coming new year I want to go in for my bike test.. I currently hold a car licence so will I still need to get a provisional for a motorcycle? And is it worthwhile me starting to revise the theory test now?...
I'm 36 years old and preferably don't want to be restricted by engine size when I pass...

Semmelweiss

1,725 posts

202 months

Tuesday 19th December 2023
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1. CBT
2. Provisional Theory Test
3. DAS
4. MOD 1
5. MOD 2

That is the recommended path.

V12GT

377 posts

96 months

Tuesday 19th December 2023
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All details here. As you are over 24 you can go the route to a big bike directly.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/621...

PistonRings

273 posts

64 months

Tuesday 19th December 2023
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You do the cbt which gives the ability to ride a 125 on L's, and as said, best to do direct access scheme of mod 1 and mod 2 ASAP.

The bike theory is easy and common sense. Use the ofifical website for revision, think it was about 15 quid

CoreyDog

751 posts

96 months

Tuesday 19th December 2023
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As has been said :-

CBT - Basic Training, can’t really fail this and it’s just a one day course pootling about on a 125cc.

Theory - if you’ve been driving more than a couple of years, it’s easy. Couple of motorcycle specific questions but mostly common sense.

Mod 1 - off road test. Basically a big open area and you’ll be asked to do slow speed manoeuvres through cones, u-turns, hazard avoidance etc. One that most people fail on.

Mod 2 - On road test, same as you’d have done on your car test. Follow a route directed by the examiner as he follows on another bike.

It sounds a lot but once you get the basics down on a bike, it’s fairly simple. Don’t let the CBT on a 125 put you off. Those bikes have had hard lives and riding a bigger bike is a lot easier than a 125.

Steve_H80

360 posts

28 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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I would add to that book yourself in with a training school now.
The schools will be busy and they will have a waiting list which will grow after Jan 1st as the Ne w Year resolutions start.
With a bit of luck you will have a license by Spring smile

poo at Paul's

14,314 posts

181 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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Steve_H80 said:
I would add to that book yourself in with a training school now.
The schools will be busy and they will have a waiting list which will grow after Jan 1st as the Ne w Year resolutions start.
With a bit of luck you will have a license by Spring smile
THIS!

Scary how big the wait lists are, took 5 months to get my daughter booked in and done, one cancellation due to the weather, but only 3 weeks from the end.

Enjoy biking, it's awesome, but be careful over winter.

Tam_Mullen

2,359 posts

178 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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Semmelweiss said:
1. CBT
2. Provisional Theory Test
3. DAS
4. MOD 1
5. MOD 2

That is the recommended path.
'DAS' isnt a step, its what you call the whole thing, the Direct Access Scheme. Which is what a 36y.o will be doing.

OP I'd recommend doing the theory first, it shows commitment and although you're a car driver it helps you brush up on the rules of the road (along with motorcycle specific stuff) before you get on a bike.

trickywoo

12,208 posts

236 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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poo at Paul's said:
Steve_H80 said:
I would add to that book yourself in with a training school now.
The schools will be busy and they will have a waiting list which will grow after Jan 1st as the Ne w Year resolutions start.
With a bit of luck you will have a license by Spring smile
THIS!

Scary how big the wait lists are, took 5 months to get my daughter booked in and done, one cancellation due to the weather, but only 3 weeks from the end.

Enjoy biking, it's awesome, but be careful over winter.
I'm guessing more a lack of schools than demand itself?

TurboHatchback

4,180 posts

159 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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I'm mid-process now.

  • CBT: done.
  • Theory: done.
  • 125cc bike bought for getting some miles in: done.
  • Big bike course and tests: provisionally penciled in for March.
The theory test is easy, a couple of evenings revision is more than enough to ace it. The CBT was easy enough on a scooter, on a manual bike it would have been a lot to think about if you've never ridden before (like me). I'm absolutely loving my 125cc so far, it may only be a tiddler but it can top 70mph, gets to 40mph faster than most traffic and for a new rider getting used to going fast on 2 wheels it certainly doesn't feel lacking.

nute

732 posts

113 months

Thursday 21st December 2023
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trickywoo said:
I'm guessing more a lack of schools than demand itself?
It’s very seasonal, I did mine in November / December, didn’t have to wait and test slots available. The downside it it was fecking cold and tests got cancelled due to ice etc.

RazerSauber

2,461 posts

66 months

Thursday 21st December 2023
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TurboHatchback said:
I'm mid-process now.

  • CBT: done.
  • Theory: done.
  • 125cc bike bought for getting some miles in: done.
  • Big bike course and tests: provisionally penciled in for March.
The theory test is easy, a couple of evenings revision is more than enough to ace it. The CBT was easy enough on a scooter, on a manual bike it would have been a lot to think about if you've never ridden before (like me). I'm absolutely loving my 125cc so far, it may only be a tiddler but it can top 70mph, gets to 40mph faster than most traffic and for a new rider getting used to going fast on 2 wheels it certainly doesn't feel lacking.
Congrats. Mod 1 is a lot easier than people make out. I was so concerned with putting a foot down on the U turns that I focussed too much on it. The hardest part for me was actually the slalom. It's worth noting that the surface used on the Mod 1 area is high grip stuff, too. Sliding out is nigh on impossible in the dry and I believe it has more grip in the wet than regular tarmac does in the dry. So my instructor told me, anyway. Remember, it starts from the second you turn the bike on until the second you step away from it. Don't let your guard down until you're walking back into the test centre. Otherwise, it's literally observations and basic bike control. The schematics are available online if you want to buy yourself a few plastic cones to practice somewhere. An industrial estate on a weekend should provide ample space.

TurboHatchback

4,180 posts

159 months

Thursday 21st December 2023
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RazerSauber said:
Congrats. Mod 1 is a lot easier than people make out. I was so concerned with putting a foot down on the U turns that I focussed too much on it. The hardest part for me was actually the slalom. It's worth noting that the surface used on the Mod 1 area is high grip stuff, too. Sliding out is nigh on impossible in the dry and I believe it has more grip in the wet than regular tarmac does in the dry. So my instructor told me, anyway. Remember, it starts from the second you turn the bike on until the second you step away from it. Don't let your guard down until you're walking back into the test centre. Otherwise, it's literally observations and basic bike control. The schematics are available online if you want to buy yourself a few plastic cones to practice somewhere. An industrial estate on a weekend should provide ample space.
Thanks. I do intend to do some practice of the Mod 1 maneuvers before the course to get a head start.

One thing I forgot to mention, since I did my car theory test the theory hazard perception has changed to using CGI video clips instead of poor quality real ones which makes it much easier. The environment is much more sanitized and the clarity is hugely improved so the hazards they are looking for are fairly blindingly obvious.

Krikkit

26,919 posts

187 months

Thursday 21st December 2023
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RazerSauber said:
Congrats. Mod 1 is a lot easier than people make out. I was so concerned with putting a foot down on the U turns that I focussed too much on it. The hardest part for me was actually the slalom. It's worth noting that the surface used on the Mod 1 area is high grip stuff, too. Sliding out is nigh on impossible in the dry and I believe it has more grip in the wet than regular tarmac does in the dry. So my instructor told me, anyway. Remember, it starts from the second you turn the bike on until the second you step away from it. Don't let your guard down until you're walking back into the test centre. Otherwise, it's literally observations and basic bike control. The schematics are available online if you want to buy yourself a few plastic cones to practice somewhere. An industrial estate on a weekend should provide ample space.
Not true everywhere about the tarmac, mine was on completely normal tarmac.

The answer is practice, confidence and relaxing

LosingGrip

7,931 posts

165 months

Thursday 21st December 2023
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Tam_Mullen said:
'DAS' isnt a step, its what you call the whole thing, the Direct Access Scheme. Which is what a 36y.o will be doing.

OP I'd recommend doing the theory first, it shows commitment and although you're a car driver it helps you brush up on the rules of the road (along with motorcycle specific stuff) before you get on a bike.
I know a few riding schools that won't book you on any lessons for DAS until your theory is passed.

D1on

Original Poster:

804 posts

192 months

Thursday 28th December 2023
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So do I need a provisional licence if I hold a car licence? Or can I go straight in for my bike theory?

vindaloo79

994 posts

86 months

Thursday 28th December 2023
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D1on said:
So do I need a provisional licence if I hold a car licence? Or can I go straight in for my bike theory?
Your (full) car licence is ample to get started.

Though cbt doesn’t require it, I’d also get the theory out of the way if you’re committed. It’s ste weather now so makes sense.



MintyUFB

244 posts

241 months

Thursday 28th December 2023
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Did my Das in june at age 57. 5 day course was plemty. As far as theory test. Pretty easy but do practise the hazard perception before because as a driver you may find that you spot the hazards too early. I spent about 10 months on the 125 but didnt really need that long. Good luck. It is so much easier on the big bike.

trickywoo

12,208 posts

236 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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D1on said:
So do I need a provisional licence if I hold a car licence? Or can I go straight in for my bike theory?
You have a provisional licence for a bike with a car licence. You'll need a CBT to ride on the road.

ghibbett

1,903 posts

191 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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This was me last year.

New Year's resolution to get off my backside and do my bike license.

Booked CBT for mid-Jan, Thoroughly enjoyed it.

Booked Theory for end of Jan. On the way home, having passed, ordered a new bike smile

Started MOD1 training in early Feb.

Failed MOD 1. Twice. frown

Eventually passed MO1 late Feb.

Passed MOD 2 early March.

Collected bike mid-April.

Been loving it ever since.