Keis inner heated gloves

[Onelastattempt]

Anybody else using these ?
I bought some to go with my Keis heated vest which I have had for two years and am quite happy with it. But the inner gloves just seem a bit " meh " , they do warm up but not to a really noticeable temperature. I did an 80 mile round trip today with them underneath my Alpinestars Drystar gloves on the out journey and on the way home just used my cheap silk inner gloves as usual underneath the Drystar gloves. I could not notice any discernible difference between them at all. I am now undecided whether or not to return them, they certainly don't seem to be worth the £80 cost !

[autumnsum]

Heated clothes all depend on the voltage. You need to get at least 5v with decent batteries (5000mah).

Almost all of it's just rebranded stuff from China anyway. £80 becomes £10 on alibaba.

The only UK one I know who really design their own stuff is toastyfox, but they don't really aim their stuff at bikers.

[Onelastattempt]

The Keis inner gloves run off 12V, they are connected to the vest which in turn is directly connected to the bike battery. As I said the vest works quite well, I only ever use it on the medium or low setting as I find the high setting too warm, even through two other layers.
I have looked at buying a 12v rechargeable battery to use the gloves and vest off the bike as I do a lot of walking no matter what the weather, the Keis 5200ah one is £110 which seems very steep for a battery but I cannot find any other compatible rechargeable battery.

[Caddyshack]

I use them, they seem to work well.

I would not recommend the battery packs, both mine failed.

I run mine off the jacket now, and that runs off the bike.

[cpszx]

My experience with them was they stop your hands getting cold better than keep your hands warm.

Oh, and the elements burn your skin if the gloves get wet.

[Daniel T]

i too have the jacket.
bought the gloves but could never fit them comfortably under gloves so never used them.

i need to sell them.

[Caddyshack]

I should clarify, I have the actual heated gloves and not the inner liners but my earlier answer should still work.

[Onelastattempt]

cpszx said:

My experience with them was they stop your hands getting cold better than keep your hands warm.

Oh, and the elements burn your skin if the gloves get wet.

I think you are correct , I was expecting more heat similar to what a pair of heated grips give out, but all over my hand not just on the palm.
When you say " if the gloves get wet " I take it you just mean the inner gloves ? My Drystar gloves are a couple of years old but still seem to be fairly waterproof.

[Onelastattempt]

Daniel T said:

i too have the jacket.
bought the gloves but could never fit them comfortably under gloves so never used them.

i need to sell them.

My Drystar gloves are a little loose in fit so with the inners feel just about right. My hand size seems to be between medium and large no matter what make of gloves I try. Large is slightly loose but medium just a bit too tight even after breaking them in.

[cpszx]

Onelastattempt said:

I think you are correct , I was expecting more heat similar to what a pair of heated grips give out, but all over my hand not just on the palm.
When you say " if the gloves get wet " I take it you just mean the inner gloves ? My Drystar gloves are a couple of years old but still seem to be fairly waterproof.

Yes, be careful if the inner gloves get wet due to leaky outer, you might get burnt.

When you only have one working you notice the difference fairly quickly in winter. Maybe just not cold enough to appreciate them yet.

My Gerbing are similar though, but feel warmer as they are full padded glove.

[archie456]

Have you got the jacket wired properly? When I first got mine I plugged the controller into the wrong plugs/sockets which meant the voltage going to the gloves was reduced.

[Onelastattempt]

archie456 said:

Have you got the jacket wired properly? When I first got mine I plugged the controller into the wrong plugs/sockets which meant the voltage going to the gloves was reduced.

The controller is plugged into the two inbuilt connectors in the front pocket with has the " upside down " zip on. I will double check I have the connectors the right way round but I thought the jacket controller had no effect on extras such as gloves and you had to fit another separate inline mini controller for the gloves.

[Zedboy]

Keis vest and ‘normal’ gloves work well for me... gloves have failed twice over last three years, but no quibble replacement both times. I don’t think I’d get on with inner gloves ... I have a real thing about the lining failing and feeling lumpy and crap!

[Caddyshack]

I think people do mis-understand heated clothing. It is best at stopping you getting cold rather than making you warm.

I tend to feel warmth when In traffic, when moving you just don’t get the chill.

[Dog Star]

Caddyshack said:

I think people do mis-understand heated clothing. It is best at stopping you getting cold rather than making you warm.

I tend to feel warmth when In traffic, when moving you just don’t get the chill.

I disagree - I’ve got a Chilli heated waistcoat and a Keis heated waistcoat - the Chilli uses wire loops for heat, the Keis the heated “carbon sheets”. Both are toasty warm and even a bit too warm on full power - and I’m a winter ralliest.

[Caddyshack]

Dog Star said:

Caddyshack said:

I think people do mis-understand heated clothing. It is best at stopping you getting cold rather than making you warm.

I tend to feel warmth when In traffic, when moving you just don’t get the chill.

I disagree - I’ve got a Chilli heated waistcoat and a Keis heated waistcoat - the Chilli uses wire loops for heat, the Keis the heated “carbon sheets”. Both are toasty warm and even a bit too warm on full power - and I’m a winter ralliest.

Are you talking about when riding a motorbike or standing next to a rally stage?

I have carbon sheets in my jacket and wires in my gillet.

[Onelastattempt]

Dog Star said:

Caddyshack said:

I think people do mis-understand heated clothing. It is best at stopping you getting cold rather than making you warm.

I tend to feel warmth when In traffic, when moving you just don’t get the chill.

I disagree - I’ve got a Chilli heated waistcoat and a Keis heated waistcoat - the Chilli uses wire loops for heat, the Keis the heated “carbon sheets”. Both are toasty warm and even a bit too warm on full power - and I’m a winter ralliest.

My Keis vest is very warm on the high setting, I only really use it on medium or low and I can still feel the warmth through two other layers. The instructions that came with it tell you not to use it on bare flesh due to the amount of heat it can emit. I recognise that the inner gloves will not give out the same amount of heat as the vest but I should be able to feel more warmth from them, especially at standstill or slow traffic. Testing them in the garage with the inner gloves connected directly to the battery and not through the vest connectors I can feel very little warmth from them.
I have a 140 mile round trip to Kendal tomorrow so will test them again, but in reality I think on Thursday they will be sent back. At £80 they should be good quality and work well but they seem to be Aliexpress quality and worth only £5.