Ducati Superquadro Mono 659cc single

Ducati Superquadro Mono 659cc single

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gareth_r

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244 months

Birky_41

4,371 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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Impressive power from a single! Circa 85hp with the full race system!!

Kawasicki

13,471 posts

242 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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I am so excited about this engine it’s actually embarrassing.

smifffymoto

4,771 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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If only they would build a single cylinder,highly desirable sportbike and actually release it to the buying public,or a supermotard.

Birky_41

4,371 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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smifffymoto said:
If only they would build a single cylinder,highly desirable sportbike and actually release it to the buying public,or a supermotard.
I reckon the latter is what this engine will be initially destined for given its a road engine not a race engine

TimmyWimmyWoo

4,321 posts

188 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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It's going in a Hypermotard first I think… but a Supermono would be cool.

Normodog

235 posts

47 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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Supermono that could run in the new bsb streetbike class would be cool.

smifffymoto

4,771 posts

212 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Supermono road bike would be even better,the original is still a looker.

Alex Z

1,513 posts

83 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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That’s going in a few different bikes I’m sure. No way it’s cost effective to build that then use it in just one.

Edited by Alex Z on Friday 27th October 07:46

KTMsm

27,681 posts

270 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Always nice to see something new

But I'm unsure whether a high revving single cylinder is what I'd want in anything

To me supermotos are about instant torque

Have to wait for a test ride to see

Caddyshack

11,838 posts

213 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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KTMsm said:
Always nice to see something new

But I'm unsure whether a high revving single cylinder is what I'd want in anything

To me supermotos are about instant torque

Have to wait for a test ride to see
I could see it being used in a dirt bike but can’t think what road bike it would be good in, 10k isn’t really high revs in general bike engine world so it would just be a thumper surely?

I recently sold my parallel twin aprilia due to the thumps engine and bought an inline 4 with 15k red line so I may not be the target audience.

kev b

2,725 posts

173 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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30,000 Km service intervals!

Or is that just the valve clearance check?

I reckon time between rebuilds will be more like 3000 Km,


Playsatan

576 posts

234 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Think the announcement for the new Ducatil SM is on the 2nd November.

690/701/700 have dominated this space for every so nice to seem some competition at last. Power, weight and price will all be looking to match these and steal some sales id imagine.

Edited by Playsatan on Friday 27th October 10:29

Krikkit

26,998 posts

188 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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KTMsm said:
Always nice to see something new

But I'm unsure whether a high revving single cylinder is what I'd want in anything

To me supermotos are about instant torque

Have to wait for a test ride to see
63Nm peak torque is good enough, surely? 89% of a 690 Duke's torque, but 21% more power.

OutInTheShed

9,379 posts

33 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Peak torque at a million RPM though?

What will it really be like to ride, away from a race track?

Singles are obviously a thing for certain race classes, but what's so great about a big single on the road?
It will be interesting to see the bikes as whole packages.

lukeyman

1,031 posts

142 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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kev b said:
30,000 Km service intervals!

Or is that just the valve clearance check?

I reckon time between rebuilds will be more like 3000 Km,
Oil at 9k something I think I read somewhere.

Little video for the engine pervs…

https://youtu.be/qZQ9aIR84Mc?si=Ss-UGJUAYy9VKwEQ

OutInTheShed

9,379 posts

33 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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kev b said:
30,000 Km service intervals!

Or is that just the valve clearance check?

I reckon time between rebuilds will be more like 3000 Km,
A lot of Ducatis seem to do very low mileage, it might as well be 1500 miles or 5 years, whichever comes first.

gareth_r

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244 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Ducati said:
The new Superquadro Mono is capable of reaching 10,250 rpm, values never achieved before with a road-going single-cylinder, and has a maximum power of 77.5 hp @ 9,750 rpm, a benchmark value for the segment, while the torque value is 46.4 lb-ft at 8,000 rpm. 70% of the torque is already available at 3,000 rpm, and the value never drops below 80% from 4,500 to 10,250 rpm. Power and torque can be further increased by 7 hp and torque by 2.9 lb-ft by fitting the racing exhaust designed for the new Mono. Benchmark maintenance intervals for the category: the oil change is scheduled every 9,000 miles, with the valve clearance check every 18,000 miles.
If you look at it as being the equivalent of a 155bhp 1320cc v-twin, it's not really any different from a number of current bikes, so why should the maintenance requirements be more onerous or the reliability worse? It's only 118bhp/litre. Norton's GP racer made 100bhp/litre 85 years ago (not that it would have been much good in rush hour traffic).

It would be nice if it was half the price as well. smile


OutInTheShed

9,379 posts

33 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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gareth_r said:
If you look at it as being the equivalent of a 155bhp 1320cc v-twin, it's not really any different from a number of current bikes, so why should the maintenance requirements be more onerous or the reliability worse? It's only 118bhp/litre. Norton's GP racer made 100bhp/litre 85 years ago (not that it would have been much good in rush hour traffic).

It would be nice if it was half the price as well. smile
An 85 BHP bike will get worked harder?
You're right is does seem a lot of fuss over an unspectacular BHP per litre.
Ducati were selling road bikes with 130 BHP/litre in the early 90s.

The 90 degree V twin is a special thing though with the two cylinders out of phase evening out the rotating/reciprocating energy better than almost anything else? All that single thumping malarky takes it toll on the bike as well as the rider IMHO.

I'd be much more excited by a better developed answer to the Aprilia RXV, although I'd probably not trust myself to ride one these days
550cc, 70BHP, 130kg?

I guess this is all track driven, with the knowledge that fans will buy impractical rep bikes to potter to the cafe on Sunday or to dust in the man cave?

KTMsm

27,681 posts

270 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Krikkit said:
63Nm peak torque is good enough, surely? 89% of a 690 Duke's torque, but 21% more power.
I couldn't see the torque mentioned what RPM is it at ?

Not sure where you went to school but 77.5 bhp at 9,750 isn't much more than 74 bhp and it's made at considerably lower rpm

Until I've ridden it I wouldn't want to say it's amazing or not but I've never thought I wanted more revs, I have thought I'd like more torque