Jackets with no liner…

[Tribal Chestnut]

I was really rather skeptical when I bought my Rev’It Dominator jacket.

fking expensive, yet they don’t even provide a liner, so I ended up buying an Oxford Advanced fleece for the colder weather.

And this seems to be the way now for a few of the other textile jackets available - eg lots of the Klim stuff I was looking at is all supplied without a liner too.

But….after a fking cold commute this morning, with the temps having dropped from around 15 last week to 2 today, I’m now a convert.

Not having that 2” gap at the front where the liner zips to the outer really does seem to make a tremendous difference and my torso was comfy all the way down the M1. The office is also pretty chilly as some clever sod left a couple do windows open over the weekend, yet I’m feeling nice and snug.

I was pleased with the Oxford fleece too. I always feel a little restricted on choice, being 6’2” and of a not very Teutonic build, so went for their offering which seemed to promise a decent fit. It was fine out of the packet, but has sat in my wardrobe over summer, not getting it’s first use in anger until today.

On the bike and under my jacket it was great; aside from being warm enough, the fit is perfect, especially around the usually niggley wrists and collar. I fully expected far too much bulk around my neck with much discomfort ensuing, but it was great. Shall be interesting to see how it pairs with the RST gilet thing that I bought…..I might even be able to leave the heated body warmer hidden away this winter.

[SteveKTMer]

I agree, my Klim Latitude doesn't have a liner and I choose what to wear based on the weather, from merino wool base plus fleece to micro fleece, sweatshirt or tee shirt etc and I can add or remove thin layers as needed, all of which I can use off the bike too, so much more flexible than having one fixed inner jacket which I have to find space to carry when not needed.

[HybridTheory]

Agree having left home at 0500 last two days it’s defo gone a bit nippy now I even had the heated grips on

[black-k1]

The key to keeping warm on a bike is the elimination of drafts. A lined wind proof jacket still has the potential to allow drafts between the liner and you. A fleece is much more efficient keeping the air your body heats up close.

Assuming the outer layer is windproof then good neck and wrist seals with an all around zip at the waist will make a huge difference to how warm you are, even with a thin layer underneath.

[CallorFold]

Jacket liners are pretty good generally, but when it gets really cold I don't think you can beat a proper coat underneath.

I wear a Berghaus "Hottar" jacket under my bike jacket when it gets really cold. Really insulated, proper wind resistant, not too bulky and it doesn't have to be just a bike jacket. Anything with some sort of down-fill or synthetic equivalent that's wind proof and not too bulky I think will work wonders over most bike jacket liners.

https://www.berghaus.com/men-s-hottar-hybrid-black...

[Omaruk]

One answer heated clothing - game changer

[Bob_Defly]

When I took those pics of the CRF450RL on the other thread it was about 10C, and I was wearing about 5 layers, all thin. I feel like that's much better than a lined jacket, as it traps the air better.

[archie456]

Omaruk said:

One answer heated clothing - game changer

I was sceptical until a bought a heated jacket, it's a different world with one as it's thin enough to wear under a jacket all of the time you might need (want) it.

I've got a Keis jacket and later added the gloves, which work better than heated grips and better still with them

[Biker9090]

Omaruk said:

One answer heated clothing - game changer

Fully agree. I've had Gerbing heated gloves for a few years and they've been a game changer. I bought a cheap secondhand Gerbings heated vest last year to see if i'd use it. It's bloody brilliant - would have been better if I hadn't lost the charger though!

[Biker 1]

I have Furygan heated gloves. A bit bulky with the rechargeable battery packs, but worth the faff & preferable to heated grips.

[archie456]

I've got the long-sleeved Keis jacket, it is wired for the gloves with connectors near the cuffs. I run them off the bike as I don't think batteries are a great solution.

There's just a single connection to the bike from the jacket and the gloves are a doddle to connect. I've used them for several 8 hour trips in the depths of winter (I live in Scotland) and over that time would have seriously struggled without them.

[EasternBlocGeek]

£20 heated gilet from Hubble Sports Store on AliExpress to wear under my £80 RST Alpha 'touring' jacket. Job done!

[Tribal Chestnut]

Biker 1 said:

I have Furygan heated gloves. A bit bulky with the rechargeable battery packs, but worth the faff & preferable to heated grips.

I hope they’ve improved them. I had a pair back in 2014/15 and they were ste. Always got wet through the cuff as it was too bulky to go inside my sleeve and the batteries lasted about 30 mins.

[Caddyshack]

I bought the Macna heated jacket and changed the cuff connectors to run my keis gloves all of the bike battery.