MT-125 Service History / Intervals

[DasLoon]

Hello all,

I've just purchased my first bike, a 2022 Yamaha MT-125 with 500 miles on it.

It's coming up for it's "running in" oil change at 600 miles then first annual service in Oct.

I'm reading up on it's maintenance requirements and it has the following regarding engine oil-

25.1: Change oil (warm engine before start)
25.2: Check oil level and vehicle for oil leakage

It says carry out these tasks at initial interval then every 1800 miles thereafter.


Surely they cant expect me to take the bike into a dealership/garage every 1800 miles for an oil change to maintain warranty and "full service history"?

Thanks

Rob

[Donbot]

That's ridiculously short. My ybr125 needs doing every 4k.

[scorcher]

How many times do you envisage taking it in whilst you’re within the warranty period? Once outside of that you can do it yourself.

[trickywoo]

Does seem odd. So much so I looked at an online manual myself.

Does indeed seem to be 600 running in then after another 1200 miles when a service light will come on and then every additional 1800 miles after that.

[Donbot]

You won't void the warranty changing the oil yourself as long it is the correct spec. You obviously don't have full dealer service history anymore though.

[DasLoon]

Donbot said:

That's ridiculously short. My ybr125 needs doing every 4k.

Yep I was expecting 3500 mile intervals tbh.

[ssray]

Has it got a conventional filter? Paper cartridge or just a strainer type?
Cb250rs Honda's had really short oil change limits, no proper filter and not a lot of oil in the sump

[trickywoo]

ssray said:

Has it got a conventional filter? Paper cartridge or just a strainer type?
Cb250rs Honda's had really short oil change limits, no proper filter and not a lot of oil in the sump

The manual calls it an oil filter element and says to change at 3k miles. Interestingly I found an EU manual which seems to say variable oil changes based on the service light but obviously still by 3k if you are doing the filter.

[PT1984]

My Honda CB125R had its filter in the clutch case. A slight annoyance as then you really need a new gasket. Think it was required at 4k. I did it at 2k and it was starting to sludge.

Saying that it only held a litre of oil. £14 for Motul isn’t so bad.

Short service intervals on a 125 are understandable given they spend their days at 10k rpm most days!

[aka_kerrly]

I maintain a few bikes for mates and one has a 2017 mt125 which I usually do 2-3 oil changes a year.

The manual I have also has 1800mile intervals or when the service light comes on.

You can get oil+filter for £25 ( motul oil + high flow filter) or about £50 if you want Yamalube + Yamaha filter. it's straight forward to change yourself without taking half the bike apart.

At the local dealer a oil change is £125 but to be fair they do a quick "health check" of the bike too and give you that wonderful little stamp in a book combined with a quick wash.

How many miles are you expecting to do each year??

[Birky_41]

Thats real short intervals! No good if you want to use as a daily/commuter

I would do as others said, 100% oil change myself but also look at every 4k

[KTMsm]

Check the oil spec, do it yourself and keep the reciepts

Have a google about general maintenance and if you're riding in winter invest in some ACF or similar - easy to keep a bike looking nice but expensive to repair a corroded one

I'd suggest you combine the two services - ie Annual one at 600 miles

[PT1984]

I would get a vacuum pump thingy. Suck then fill. Easy.

[Tango13]

Donbot said:

You won't void the warranty changing the oil yourself as long it is the correct spec. You obviously don't have full dealer service history anymore though.

You will void the warranty by changing the oil yourself.

The block exemption rules that apply to cars mean that providing genuine parts are used and it is serviced by a VAT registered garage the manufacturer has to uphold the warranty.

But...

The block exemption rules don't apply to motorcycles so you have to take it back to a dealer.

https://www.britishmotorcyclists.co.uk/service-mot...

[Donbot]

Tango13 said:

Donbot said:

You won't void the warranty changing the oil yourself as long it is the correct spec. You obviously don't have full dealer service history anymore though.

You will void the warranty by changing the oil yourself.

The block exemption rules that apply to cars mean that providing genuine parts are used and it is serviced by a VAT registered garage the manufacturer has to uphold the warranty.

But...

The block exemption rules don't apply to motorcycles so you have to take it back to a dealer.

https://www.britishmotorcyclists.co.uk/service-mot...

What the actual fk. I thought they passed consumer law on that. I suppose you have to factor in those things buying new. Not that anyone is going to check.

[Steve_H80]

Changing the oil & filter is easy, as are most other things on a 125, so if you can live without the warranty get a manual and do it all yourself.
If you're not experienced mechanically just stick with using the dealer, it won't take them long to do a little service so it won't be too expensive.
Ignore the rip off Britain whingers. Mechanics are skilled professionals who want paying accordingly (the same as you do). The secret is to keep the mechanic's hours down by doing what you can yourself so you're only paying for the service not to clean, lube and adjust all those things you should have done yourself.

[KTMsm]

Steve_H80 said:

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1) Mechanics are skilled

2) professionals

3) who want paying accordingly (the same as you do).

1) Many aren't

2) Agreed - anyone getting paid is a professional

3) Now this is my issue - if you go to the Dealer and are charged probably £120/hr exactly how much of that goes to the mechanic ?

Because I suspect most are on less than £25/hr

I don't want to pay for a showroom, receptionist etc

[DasLoon]

Thanks to all for the replies/advice.

I got the annual/running in service done at the same time at a local reputable bike workshop. The manual doesn't seem to stipulate that services need to be done at main dealer, just genuine parts used etc.

I'll see how I get on mileage wise, if I rack up miles quickly, which is likely as I want to get plenty of practice in to do my mod 1 and 2 I'll likely do the 1800 mile oil changes myself and get the workshop to do annual/3500 services.

[Steve_H80]

KTMsm said:

3) Now this is my issue - if you go to the Dealer and are charged probably £120/hr exactly how much of that goes to the mechanic ?

Because I suspect most are on less than £25/hr

I don't want to pay for a showroom, receptionist etc

So who does pay for the rest of the staff? The building? The utility bills. The mechanics training? The tools and equipment? Not forgetting tax, insurance, pension etc? They are business expenses and have to come from somewhere.

If you're only prepared to pay peanuts then you had better stick to 'cash in hand' types working from a back yard with a lump hammer, an adjustable spanner and experience gained on a recalcitrant MZ125 back in 1983.

[KTMsm]

Steve_H80 said:

So who does pay for the rest of the staff? The building? The utility bills. The mechanics training? The tools and equipment? Not forgetting tax, insurance, pension etc? They are business expenses and have to come from somewhere.

If you're only prepared to pay peanuts then you had better stick to 'cash in hand' types working from a back yard with a lump hammer, an adjustable spanner and experience gained on a recalcitrant MZ125 back in 1983.

I would use self-employed mechanics so you know exactly who is working on your bike rather than risk the apprentice

I've happily used mobile ones in the past too

These days I do everything myself but if I needed to do something I couldn't, I would find an independent specialist - I wouldn't use a Main Dealer for anything