Talk me out of it… if you can

Talk me out of it… if you can

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exelero

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1,898 posts

95 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Hello Riders.
A few weeks back someone offered me a bike for a car that I have for sale. It’s a ZX1100R(?). I told him that I will consider it but ultimately I decided against it because
A) I don’t have almost no riding experience
B) I don’t have a deathwish and I know if the bike was in my yard I’d try it once and then end up on a tree or smth.

But now I want to get into riding. I have ridden a Yamaha DY123 Cc before for about 20 mins and then I broke my wrist and that was that. I was like 16 then and I’m 30 now. I also have a 2 yo baby. I always wanted to ride but ultimately rejected the idea because I’m a maniac and of course I don’t wanna leave the earth just yet.
If I was to learn to ride now what would you recommend to me? I’m into supermotos.
Should I just get my cbt, some gear and a bike and see how it goes? Which bike would be suitable for me? Or should I just reject the idea again ?
Talk to me guys, thank you!

TheThing

946 posts

140 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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If you want to ride bikes then ride bikes. Simples.

Don't fanny around with a 125. Get your big bike licence and get the bike you want.

As is always Said, the throttle goes both ways. Your probably not as much of a mad man as you think you are. Your self preservation instincts will kick in.

exelero

Original Poster:

1,898 posts

95 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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TheThing said:
If you want to ride bikes then ride bikes. Simples.

Don't fanny around with a 125. Get your big bike licence and get the bike you want.
So you suggest I start with a say 600 straight away? :O

TheThing

946 posts

140 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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exelero said:
TheThing said:
If you want to ride bikes then ride bikes. Simples.

Don't fanny around with a 125. Get your big bike licence and get the bike you want.
So you suggest I start with a say 600 straight away? :O
Yes. A 125 will become boring very quickly.

Griffith4ever

4,578 posts

41 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Ask yourself this. WHen you say "should I?" In a split second of excitement, and there is even a hint of doubt about the outcome, can you say NO every time? If so, go for it. If you are the maniac you have self declared to be, I'd say get a docile bike (does not have to be a 125) and see how you get on. Riding is wonderful, hence it's so popular, but on superbikes you really really need the ability to make some very firm decisions in nano seconds if you intend to ride them even moderately fast.

There is nothing inherently unsafe about fast bikes , but, you can end up in an aweful lot of harm in a fraction of a second if you get careless.

You may well be like me and learned your lesson when you broke your wrist all those years back. I bought a CB100N back 35 years ago (at least) and crashed it flat out (60) into a gate. I know it was 60 because I was staring at the speedo instead of looking ahead...... I was badly bruised and passed my x-ray checkout at A&E. From that I learnt what going too fast for a bend was like (not a lot you can do) and when I got back on a bike 15 years later I was far more respectful . I ended up spanking an R6 on road and track, but was a very "aware" road rider.

You'll end up thrashing a 125 which is possibly more dangerous than riding a 500 gently.

P.s. When I was road riding I'd watch a handful of YT bike crash vids each week. It kept me reminded of common fatal mistakes.

Edited by Griffith4ever on Saturday 16th September 09:34

KTMsm

27,432 posts

269 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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A KTM 390 is probably a good place to start - fast enough to be fun, slow enough to take liberties with (or a DRZ400)

Then move up to a 690

Xcore

1,368 posts

96 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Drz400SM seems perfect for your needs

exelero

Original Poster:

1,898 posts

95 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Xcore said:
Drz400SM seems perfect for your needs
Thanks for this, I didn’t even know it existed. I wanted a 710 Husqvarna biggrin

exelero

Original Poster:

1,898 posts

95 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Griffith4ever said:
Ask yourself this. WHen you say "should I?" In a split second of excitement, and there is even a hint of doubt about the outcome, can you say NO every time? If so, go for it. If you are the maniac you have self declared to be, I'd say get a docile bike (does not have to be a 125) and see how you get on. Riding is wonderful, hence it's so popular, but on superbikes you really really need the ability to make some very firm decisions in nano seconds if you intend to ride them even moderately fast.

There is nothing inherently unsafe about fast bikes , but, you can end up in an aweful lot of harm in a fraction of a second if you get careless.

You may well be like me and learned your lesson when you broke your wrist all those years back. I bought a CB100N back 35 years ago (at least) and crashed it flat out (60) into a gate. I know it was 60 because I was staring at the speedo instead of looking ahead...... I was badly bruised and passed my x-ray checkout at A&E. From that I learnt what going too fast for a bend was like (not a lot you can do) and when I got back on a bike 15 years later I was far more respectful . I ended up spanking an R6 on road and track, but was a very "aware" road rider.

You'll end up thrashing a 125 which is possibly more dangerous than riding a 500 gently.

P.s. When I was road riding I'd watch a handful of YT bike crash vids each week. It kept me reminded of common fatal mistakes.

Edited by Griffith4ever on Saturday 16th September 09:34
My problem in this day and age is not even me, it’s everybody else, because of course you have to driver/ride for everybody smile Thanks for the very helpful reply

LF5335

7,311 posts

49 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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You don’t seem to have a licence based on your comments so far. Others have said take a test, I say forget that nonsense. You’re a self confessed maniac and MotoGP is missing one since Iannone got banned so speak to Aprilia and get a ride with them.

exelero

Original Poster:

1,898 posts

95 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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LF5335 said:
You don’t seem to have a licence based on your comments so far. Others have said take a test, I say forget that nonsense. You’re a self confessed maniac and MotoGP is missing one since Iannone got banned so speak to Aprilia and get a ride with them.
Sure smile
By maniac I meant popping wheelies and stuff. I would need a slow bike though because I just need to feel like I’m going millions of miles per hour, but actually only doing about 30.
From what I’ve heard is a lot more fun to go fast on a slow bike than slow on a fast one. biggrin
And you’re right, I don’t have a licence smile

LF5335

7,311 posts

49 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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exelero said:
Sure smile
By maniac I meant popping wheelies and stuff. I would need a slow bike though because I just need to feel like I’m going millions of miles per hour, but actually only doing about 30.
From what I’ve heard is a lot more fun to go fast on a slow bike than slow on a fast one. biggrin
And you’re right, I don’t have a licence smile
Then your starting point is to get a licence before deciding on and buying a bike.

Pica-Pica

14,353 posts

90 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Learn to ride a motorbike, and you’ll become a better driver.

OldGermanHeaps

4,110 posts

184 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Get a big single thumper and you can have fun at speeds that are less likely to get you in trouble.
No off road trails near you to practice on?

MDUBZ

914 posts

106 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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OP if you go down the Direct Access route for getting a licence they'll put you on a 600. The cc of the bike won't stop you pulling a wheelie, you can do them on a 50 (there is a time and a place), when and where is down to the cc of your brain. Get the bike you want n.b. insurance can sting a bit for the 1st year or so.

Steve_H80

360 posts

28 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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MDUBZ said:
OP if you go down the Direct Access route for getting a licence they'll put you on a 600. The cc of the bike won't stop you pulling a wheelie, you can do them on a 50 (there is a time and a place), when and where is down to the cc of your brain. Get the bike you want n.b. insurance can sting a bit for the 1st year or so.
^^^ What he said.

Go do your direct access, you might decide you hate bikes, but at least you'll know.
And forget about 125's, CBT and L plates unless you're planning on delivering pizzas.

crusty

754 posts

226 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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If you want to do wheelies and stuff get a dirt bike, much harder to ride well than a road bike.

Otherwise get a tuned H2 obvs

exelero

Original Poster:

1,898 posts

95 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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crusty said:
If you want to do wheelies and stuff get a dirt bike, much harder to ride well than a road bike.

Otherwise get a tuned H2 obvs
That’s why I want a supermoto smile

exelero

Original Poster:

1,898 posts

95 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Steve_H80 said:
MDUBZ said:
OP if you go down the Direct Access route for getting a licence they'll put you on a 600. The cc of the bike won't stop you pulling a wheelie, you can do them on a 50 (there is a time and a place), when and where is down to the cc of your brain. Get the bike you want n.b. insurance can sting a bit for the 1st year or so.
^^^ What he said.

Go do your direct access, you might decide you hate bikes, but at least you'll know.
And forget about 125's, CBT and L plates unless you're planning on delivering pizzas.

Im guessing the insurance would be a grand plus for the first two years, right?

OldGermanHeaps

4,110 posts

184 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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exelero said:
Im guessing the insurance would be a grand plus for the first two years, right?
M first year after passing my test was 300 some odds for a bandit 600.
It depends on your age, history,bike choice and location. Location plays a huge part. I just got quoted 89 quid fully comp for an f800gs with 2 years ncb, whereas other guys in london in the gs owners groups with 6 years plus ncb are paying over a grand.