Do modern ‘budget’ Supersports have enough?

Do modern ‘budget’ Supersports have enough?

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KTMsm

27,432 posts

269 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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OP has deleted his post but to summarize:

He cant afford the new 765 that he currently owns but cares what others think so wants a cheap new(ish) bike that looks fast

Is an R7 or similar that much worse to ride ?




That you would consider sacrificing 50 bhp for looks - rather than buying an older fast bike, has answered the question

I wouldn't consider it but I don't care what a bike looks like, only what it rides like


Edited by KTMsm on Friday 15th September 15:15

Biker9090

1,040 posts

43 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Are we talking about things like the R7 etc?

If so, no. They're a fking embarassment.


hunt123

282 posts

67 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Must admit looks had alot to do with why i bought my bike, i have the same philosphy with girlfriends biggrin although i don't (usually) buy them.

black-k1

12,133 posts

235 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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This thread meant so much more before the OP delete the original post! confused

rigga

8,748 posts

207 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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black-k1 said:
This thread meant so much more before the OP delete the original post! confused
Don't you just hate that ....annoying.

KTMsm

27,432 posts

269 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Biker9090 said:
Are we talking about things like the R7 etc?

If so, no. They're a fking embarassment.
That was exactly what he was talking about - did he delete his post after you posted that ? biggrin

OP if you're into looks over performance that's fine, my brother was the same

But those of us who rate performance over looks, will judge you biggrin


iidentifyaswoke

170 posts

25 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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hunt123 said:
Must admit looks had alot to do with why i bought my bike, i have the same philosphy with girlfriends biggrin although i don't (usually) buy them.
Pics?

richhead

1,480 posts

17 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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hunt123 said:
Must admit looks had alot to do with why i bought my bike, i have the same philosphy with girlfriends biggrin although i don't (usually) buy them.
Bet you ride them tho

AKjr

490 posts

17 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Biker9090 said:
Are we talking about things like the R7 etc?

If so, no. They're a fking embarassment.
Why are they an embarassment? I haven't owned or ridden one but they seem reasonably well liked by publications and, crucially, owners alike, from what I have read/viewed?

Biker9090

1,040 posts

43 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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AKjr said:
Why are they an embarassment? I haven't owned or ridden one but they seem reasonably well liked by publications and, crucially, owners alike, from what I have read/viewed?
Because it's roughly 50hp down on the old Supersport 600 class.....

Tarted up parallel twin commuter.

TimmyWimmyWoo

4,315 posts

187 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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To be fair I don't think it's claiming to be a 130hp supersport... and calling it an 'embarassment' just reeks of weird male bravado because a big company didn't make a bike that wasn't for you.

Anyway, an R7 definitely isn't a commuter, the riding position is actually pretty extreme...

Biker's Nemesis

39,579 posts

214 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Biker9090 said:
Are we talking about things like the R7 etc?

If so, no. They're a fking embarassment.
You wouldn't see which way I went if I was on a R7 and you were on anything TBH.

Greenbot35

185 posts

99 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Biker9090 said:
Because it's roughly 50hp down on the old Supersport 600 class.....

Tarted up parallel twin commuter.
I looked at the R7 as a possible zx6r replacement, when you get close they are just a commuter with a fairing full of cost cutting (steel frame). The aprillia seems better but the parallel twin does stink of cheap. The sv650 had so much potential imo

exelero

1,898 posts

95 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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richhead said:
hunt123 said:
Must admit looks had alot to do with why i bought my bike, i have the same philosphy with girlfriends biggrin although i don't (usually) buy them.
Bet you ride them tho
The other way around, no? wink

Jazoli

9,197 posts

256 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Biker9090 said:
Are we talking about things like the R7 etc?

If so, no. They're a fking embarassment.
You wouldn't see which way I went if I was on a R7 and you were on anything TBH.
Man speaks the truth, not sure many of us would tbh biggrin

scorcher

4,008 posts

240 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Not everyone requires a sports bike that revs to 16000 rpm, tops 170 mph and needs to be ridden at 9/10 everywhere to get any satisfaction out of them. A few people like the style but want/ needs something that is more suited to British roads and speed limits. There plenty of people that can lap tracks faster on a 100 bhp bike than some others can manage on a bike of nearly twice the bhp.

Didz1993

Original Poster:

104 posts

41 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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I cleared the post as I took my 765 out shortly after, had a bit of fun and thought perhaps I’m just being silly. rolleyes

But there is the old age saying of riding something slower fast is more fun than riding something fast slow. The 765 is great, but I can’t fully utilise it on the public road for sure.

With winter in sight I imagine I’ll just wait and cross my fingers for an R9 announcement at EICMA and hope the price isn’t ludicrous! spin

KurtFlew

417 posts

59 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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I kind of agree with Biker 9090. I just don't see their point for anything other than the A2 license category riders.

I'd rather ride a Street Triple any day.

Biker9090

1,040 posts

43 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Greenbot35 said:
I looked at the R7 as a possible zx6r replacement, when you get close they are just a commuter with a fairing full of cost cutting (steel frame). The aprillia seems better but the parallel twin does stink of cheap. The sv650 had so much potential imo
This is exactly what I'm talking about.

This thing is effectively touted as a replacement for the R6 when it's nowhere near the same thing.

At least the RS660 is getting nearer to the same ballpark in design and power.

Biker9090

1,040 posts

43 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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TimmyWimmyWoo said:
To be fair I don't think it's claiming to be a 130hp supersport... and calling it an 'embarassment' just reeks of weird male bravado because a big company didn't make a bike that wasn't for you.

Anyway, an R7 definitely isn't a commuter, the riding position is actually pretty extreme...
Nothing to do with male bravado. It's to do with Yamaha trying to get a basic commuter to be seen as a replacement for one of the best supersports bikes ever made.