Cadwell BSB 2023

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Tango13

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8,819 posts

182 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Any predictions for this weekends racing, what do we think? The weather forecast has improved from earlier in the week so I doubt rain will play a part.

Who's going and where will you be watching from?


slopes

39,903 posts

193 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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TB to win 2 and podium in the other, other race to go to Glen Irwin is my prediction as they both go well there. I would have gone with Hicky but FHO can't seem to get their bikes sorted for some reason.

Normodog

234 posts

46 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Jackson to get a win this weekend, expect Bridewell to be consistent top four across the three races.

Turn7

24,069 posts

227 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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What do we think Josh will do ?

airsafari87

2,809 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Turn7 said:
What do we think Josh will do ?
Was just about to mention Josh. If FHO have worked around the problems they had last time, Brooke’s should be a real contender, same for Hickman too.

Putting my c*ck on the block though. I’ll say the podiums will be shared between O’Hallaran and Bridewell, with the comeback kid, Vickers making a podium appearance at some point too.

Either way, I’m looking forward to being there watching it this weekend, Cadwell is always a cant miss round for me.

poo at Paul's

14,314 posts

181 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Danny Kent not running, apparently, not sure why? Money? And McAmms have binned off Tito Rabatt...!


FredericRobinson

3,889 posts

238 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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There’s a ‘BSB test’ scheduled for 5 til half 7 tonight, no public access but I’m assuming there’s nothing to stop campers watching it

Zarco

18,375 posts

215 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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airsafari87 said:
Turn7 said:
What do we think Josh will do ?
Was just about to mention Josh. If FHO have worked around the problems they had last time, Brooke’s should be a real contender, same for Hickman too.

Putting my c*ck on the block though. I’ll say the podiums will be shared between O’Hallaran and Bridewell, with the comeback kid, Vickers making a podium appearance at some point too.

Either way, I’m looking forward to being there watching it this weekend, Cadwell is always a cant miss round for me.
Good calls I think. I'd certainly like to see O'Halloran have another good weekend. Don't think you can take anything from what happened at Thruxton to predict Cadwell though.

As ever, BSB is wide open really.

Luke Stapleford on the Dao Kawasaki this round too. Would love him to get a result.

graeme4130

3,890 posts

187 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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I can see Charlie Nesbit getting a win this weekend
BMW's go well at Cadwell too, as Buchan showed last year, so can see Haslam winning one too

Tango13

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Friday 25th August 2023
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graeme4130 said:
I can see Charlie Nesbit getting a win this weekend
BMW's go well at Cadwell too, as Buchan showed last year, so can see Haslam winning one too
Hickman has had a couple of wins on a BMW at Cadwell too so the possibiliy is there.

slopes

39,903 posts

193 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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FHO don't seem to be able to get their bikes sorted after the TT.

Nesbitt and Cook whilst fast at Thruxton, won't challenge for the wins at Cadwell.

Ducati's back to the fore, Thruxton is not a circuit that suits the V4 Ducati so i expect TB and Irwin to be at the front plus Iddon putting his nose in.

O'Halloran i suspect will be top 5

Brookes i think is just going to have his head bowed and will struggle but will put on a good show over the Mountain and Hicky will be top ten ish i think.

Jackson top 4

Haslam top 6 i think, again, he sets off well and then either an old injury slows him down, his tyre starts going off or something goes awry somewhere and he starts to fade away a bit but then first year on the BMW and next year he will have all the data and be on a mission.

OMG pair, Ryde fighting with the Beer Monster team for wins and Vickers there or thereabouts but not fighting for wins


This is of course just my take on it and as usual, i am probably so far off it's not even funny hehe

Zarco

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215 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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slopes said:
FHO don't seem to be able to get their bikes sorted after the TT.
Not sure about that. Josh Brookes has had one duff round at Thruxton (that is an odd track for tyres compared to the rest of the season). He went well at Snetterton (podium in race 1 IIRC).

Hickman has struggled all year.

slopes

39,903 posts

193 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Zarco said:
slopes said:
FHO don't seem to be able to get their bikes sorted after the TT.
Not sure about that. Josh Brookes has had one duff round at Thruxton (that is an odd track for tyres compared to the rest of the season). He went well at Snetterton (podium in race 1 IIRC).

Hickman has struggled all year.
Maybe but compared to pre TT, Brookes was making regular visits to the podium and won races as well, since then he's struggled by his own admission. Knockhill he did very little, he wasn't that far up at Brands - discounting being knocked off in race 3 - and Thruxton was a mess.

Agreed about Hickman though, compared to last year this year has been very poor at BSB rounds, maybe the new bike is not as responsive to their settings as last years bike, even if it is the same model essentially.
But then look at PBM, apart from Brookes title year, they struggled until the got Bridwell and Irwin on the bike - bar of course Donington last year with Tom Sykes which was an anomaly compared to the rest of their season - so maybe this is FHO's year to struggle.

Then again, maybe they've sorted what ever was causing Brookes to be lower down the order than expected and he'll be off and chasing the leaders down/fighting with the leaders

airsafari87

2,809 posts

188 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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One thing I noticed about Hickman when watching him at Knockhill earlier in the year, he just couldn’t seem to get the bike to give him good drive out of the corners, especially the hairpin.

slopes

39,903 posts

193 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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airsafari87 said:
One thing I noticed about Hickman when watching him at Knockhill earlier in the year, he just couldn’t seem to get the bike to give him good drive out of the corners, especially the hairpin.
Yeah the FHO BMW's don't seem happy this year for some reason, or at least Brookes hasn't since the TT at least. Is this year the first year of those big wings on the fairing? Maybe they are not helping things.

Zarco

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215 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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I don't think it's anything to do with the TT. Brookes finished 2nd twice at Snetterton.

slopes

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Friday 25th August 2023
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Zarco said:
I don't think it's anything to do with the TT. Brookes finished 2nd twice at Snetterton.
I know but my point was that prior to going to the TT he was invariably fighting inside the top 5 and since then, with the exception of Snetterton as you correctly pointed out, he has essentially gone backwards. I'm not for one minute suggesting the TT had anything to do with his bike not doing what he wanted but it is very strange how since then, with the exception of one meeting, his season has gone down the toilet
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Zarco

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215 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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slopes said:
Zarco said:
I don't think it's anything to do with the TT. Brookes finished 2nd twice at Snetterton.
I know but my point was that prior to going to the TT he was invariably fighting inside the top 5 and since then, with the exception of Snetterton as you correctly pointed out, he has essentially gone backwards. I'm not for one minute suggesting the TT had anything to do with his bike not doing what he wanted but it is very strange how since then, with the exception of one meeting, his season has gone down the toilet
smile
Fair enough.

I wouldn’t read too much into results at Knockhill or Thruxton, as they are both odd tracks. Brookes struggling at Brands Hatch is the weird one if anything.

slopes

39,903 posts

193 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Zarco said:
slopes said:
Zarco said:
I don't think it's anything to do with the TT. Brookes finished 2nd twice at Snetterton.
I know but my point was that prior to going to the TT he was invariably fighting inside the top 5 and since then, with the exception of Snetterton as you correctly pointed out, he has essentially gone backwards. I'm not for one minute suggesting the TT had anything to do with his bike not doing what he wanted but it is very strange how since then, with the exception of one meeting, his season has gone down the toilet
smile
Fair enough.

I wouldn’t read too much into results at Knockhill or Thruxton, as they are both odd tracks. Brookes struggling at Brands Hatch is the weird one if anything.
Agreed but it was weird at Thruxton too, the inline 4's did well there except for the BMW's and you would have thought if they were going to have a track to pull a season reviving meeting, that was it, especially given the Ducati riders knew they would struggle there.
But also weird is how Ben Currie dominated on the SSP bike when almost every other Ducati rider suffered a miserable meeting.

It's making for an interesting season though, Cadwell being the last meeting before the new points system kicks in and anyone of the top 5 could still nick the title from Bridewell if he has a shocker for the remainder of the season and they have an unheralded turnaround. Lee Jackson is a bit of a stretch in 6th but Haslam in 5th is only62 points down on Bridewell, a good Cadwell, Oulton and Donington for Haslam and he is right in the mix come Brands.
Same obviously goes for O'Halloran, Irwin and Ryde, it's a really close season right now

FredericRobinson

3,889 posts

238 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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For anyone heading to the campsites Lincolnshire police have implemented the stupidest traffic system known to man, 2 bike cops are stopping anyone turning left or right off the Horncastle to Louth road and are sending everyone down the single track roads to joint the back of a queue on the road that comes in from Stenigot. None of this is signposted.
I live half an hour away, it’s taken me an hour and a half so far and I’m nowhere near getting in.
Never seen anything so nuts