Tom Booth Amos please rescue him
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From motorcycle racing.
He clearly doesn't like it at all and I'm guessing he has been forced into it in some kind of slave motorbike racing trade type thing.
A few months ago I'd never heard of the bloke. But recently I keep stumbling across TV footage interviews or podcasts where the bloke irritates me greatly and I have to find something else to watch because he's so annoying.
My first encounter I think was BSB on TV where the presenter said something like over to Jamie whittam on the grid who is with Tom Booth Amos and will try and get a smile out of him. They then cut to the grid where this young bloke whinged and whined about his qualifying or something wrong with his bike and was generally pretty miserable about life.
I sat there thinking what an arse he should be grateful for this opportunity but all he can do is whinge and whine and slag everybody off.
I've now seen and heard him on a few occasions and without fail every time he has complained about how hard he has to work and how difficult his life is as a motorbike racer and how things keep going wrong blah blah blah. On the podcast he whinges for a while about how hard it was and then said " but I really wanted to be a motorbike racer so I guess I shouldn't complain about how difficult it is". And then carried on complaining.
I contrast this with the occasional interviews I see with Peter Hickman. He comes across as a brilliant guy and often states that he loves meeting fans and signing autographs because he can't believe how lucky he is to have a motorbike racers life and he recognizes that without the fans he wouldn't have it so he just has an incredibly positive attitude about the opportunities he is presented with.
TBA needs putting out of his misery as soon as possible and replacing with somebody who would enjoy it much more.
I have no idea who sponsors him but he must be nothing but a PR Nightmare and really needs some media training or as I say a completely different job.
He clearly doesn't like it at all and I'm guessing he has been forced into it in some kind of slave motorbike racing trade type thing.
A few months ago I'd never heard of the bloke. But recently I keep stumbling across TV footage interviews or podcasts where the bloke irritates me greatly and I have to find something else to watch because he's so annoying.
My first encounter I think was BSB on TV where the presenter said something like over to Jamie whittam on the grid who is with Tom Booth Amos and will try and get a smile out of him. They then cut to the grid where this young bloke whinged and whined about his qualifying or something wrong with his bike and was generally pretty miserable about life.
I sat there thinking what an arse he should be grateful for this opportunity but all he can do is whinge and whine and slag everybody off.
I've now seen and heard him on a few occasions and without fail every time he has complained about how hard he has to work and how difficult his life is as a motorbike racer and how things keep going wrong blah blah blah. On the podcast he whinges for a while about how hard it was and then said " but I really wanted to be a motorbike racer so I guess I shouldn't complain about how difficult it is". And then carried on complaining.
I contrast this with the occasional interviews I see with Peter Hickman. He comes across as a brilliant guy and often states that he loves meeting fans and signing autographs because he can't believe how lucky he is to have a motorbike racers life and he recognizes that without the fans he wouldn't have it so he just has an incredibly positive attitude about the opportunities he is presented with.
TBA needs putting out of his misery as soon as possible and replacing with somebody who would enjoy it much more.
I have no idea who sponsors him but he must be nothing but a PR Nightmare and really needs some media training or as I say a completely different job.
TBA is a talented lad on a bike, his persona is just part of him. Some of the great riders in history have been proper oddballs, I'd love to see the social media from a modern day John Kocinsky for example, that lad was as odd as a bottle of crisps back in the day!
I'd like to see him on a superbike, i think he'd absolutely fly on one tbh.
I'd like to see him on a superbike, i think he'd absolutely fly on one tbh.
Yeah TBA can peddle a bike alright and he is pulling double duty with British SSP and world SSP but whilst he is regularly the man to beat in British SSP, the same can't be said for World SSP where the Kawasaki is somewhat outclassed.
He's had a few issues this year, jumping off the bike in spectacular fashion at Knockhill, the spacer coming out of the wheel and locking it up on the grid for race 1 at Thruxton and a couple of mechanicals but there is no doubt he is a spectacular rider but i do think he is under quite a bit of pressure.
He's had a few issues this year, jumping off the bike in spectacular fashion at Knockhill, the spacer coming out of the wheel and locking it up on the grid for race 1 at Thruxton and a couple of mechanicals but there is no doubt he is a spectacular rider but i do think he is under quite a bit of pressure.
slopes said:
Yeah TBA can peddle a bike alright and he is pulling double duty with British SSP and world SSP but whilst he is regularly the man to beat in British SSP, the same can't be said for World SSP where the Kawasaki is somewhat outclassed.
He's had a few issues this year, jumping off the bike in spectacular fashion at Knockhill, the spacer coming out of the wheel and locking it up on the grid for race 1 at Thruxton and a couple of mechanicals but there is no doubt he is a spectacular rider but i do think he is under quite a bit of pressure.
Knockhill Id say was lack of experience, the wheel thing, Id say was poor form the the team.He's had a few issues this year, jumping off the bike in spectacular fashion at Knockhill, the spacer coming out of the wheel and locking it up on the grid for race 1 at Thruxton and a couple of mechanicals but there is no doubt he is a spectacular rider but i do think he is under quite a bit of pressure.
I get the impression he is happy to take the challenge of double duty, but feels a little let down in the BSB team.....
Turn7 said:
slopes said:
Yeah TBA can peddle a bike alright and he is pulling double duty with British SSP and world SSP but whilst he is regularly the man to beat in British SSP, the same can't be said for World SSP where the Kawasaki is somewhat outclassed.
He's had a few issues this year, jumping off the bike in spectacular fashion at Knockhill, the spacer coming out of the wheel and locking it up on the grid for race 1 at Thruxton and a couple of mechanicals but there is no doubt he is a spectacular rider but i do think he is under quite a bit of pressure.
Knockhill Id say was lack of experience, the wheel thing, Id say was poor form the the team.He's had a few issues this year, jumping off the bike in spectacular fashion at Knockhill, the spacer coming out of the wheel and locking it up on the grid for race 1 at Thruxton and a couple of mechanicals but there is no doubt he is a spectacular rider but i do think he is under quite a bit of pressure.
I get the impression he is happy to take the challenge of double duty, but feels a little let down in the BSB team.....
Sometimes he looks to have far more pace than the rest of the field you'd think he'd win every round, but seems to make too many unforced errors.
Edited by tinhead on Tuesday 22 August 00:20
I kinda get what the OP is saying, he's not someone I've warmed to but I don't tend to watch much of the post race stuff. But in the pre-race bits he comes across like that but he always seems super stressed or frustrated with where he is.
I think that shows in his riding sometimes too. Kind of looks like he's trying too hard, and has a lot of expectation on his shoulders so rides as though he has to prove something to someone all the time with the inevitable consequence!
I think that shows in his riding sometimes too. Kind of looks like he's trying too hard, and has a lot of expectation on his shoulders so rides as though he has to prove something to someone all the time with the inevitable consequence!
srob said:
I kinda get what the OP is saying, he's not someone I've warmed to but I don't tend to watch much of the post race stuff. But in the pre-race bits he comes across like that but he always seems super stressed or frustrated with where he is.
I think that shows in his riding sometimes too. Kind of looks like he's trying too hard, and has a lot of expectation on his shoulders so rides as though he has to prove something to someone all the time with the inevitable consequence!
Aboslutely this.I think that shows in his riding sometimes too. Kind of looks like he's trying too hard, and has a lot of expectation on his shoulders so rides as though he has to prove something to someone all the time with the inevitable consequence!
I don't mind his persona. Reminds me of Foggy a bit. Love to watch him ride too.
Found the recent podcast quite interesting; he was a high level gymnast before he came to racing. Bit like Sebastian Loeb.
I sometimes find the likes of Hickman a bit fake. You know sometimes it's just an act and they are working (which I don't have a problem with).
Found the recent podcast quite interesting; he was a high level gymnast before he came to racing. Bit like Sebastian Loeb.
I sometimes find the likes of Hickman a bit fake. You know sometimes it's just an act and they are working (which I don't have a problem with).
srob said:
I kinda get what the OP is saying, he's not someone I've warmed to but I don't tend to watch much of the post race stuff. But in the pre-race bits he comes across like that but he always seems super stressed or frustrated with where he is.
I think that shows in his riding sometimes too. Kind of looks like he's trying too hard, and has a lot of expectation on his shoulders so rides as though he has to prove something to someone all the time with the inevitable consequence!
Like said not uncommon, you could watch a post quali press con with moaner, pedrosa and Lorenzo representing the front row and wonder if someone had died.I think that shows in his riding sometimes too. Kind of looks like he's trying too hard, and has a lot of expectation on his shoulders so rides as though he has to prove something to someone all the time with the inevitable consequence!
I also think the pressure on him to win the title at his first time of asking probably means he has to be more focussed and then having a microphone put in front of you while mentally preparing must be difficult.
He's a heck of a rider though and if i'm right, this is his first time racing in the UK, his previous experience has been abroad and world level.
But let's not forget he was the guy who was grabbed by the back of the crash helmet and booted up the backside by his mechanic in 2019, that ultimately led to said mechanic being sacked by Max Biaggi when it came to light 3 years later.
He's a heck of a rider though and if i'm right, this is his first time racing in the UK, his previous experience has been abroad and world level.
But let's not forget he was the guy who was grabbed by the back of the crash helmet and booted up the backside by his mechanic in 2019, that ultimately led to said mechanic being sacked by Max Biaggi when it came to light 3 years later.
Edited by slopes on Tuesday 22 August 12:59
He is who he is, I can get why some people may find him a bit jarring but why should he have to change, he's not a presenter and doesn't need to pretend to be happy all the time. He's fast enough to to be where he is without being a PR dream.
Overall he's very much an asset to the championship and brilliant to watch on the bike imo.
Overall he's very much an asset to the championship and brilliant to watch on the bike imo.
daniel-5zjw7 said:
He is who he is, I can get why some people may find him a bit jarring but why should he have to change, he's not a presenter and doesn't need to pretend to be happy all the time. He's fast enough to to be where he is without being a PR dream.
Overall he's very much an asset to the championship and brilliant to watch on the bike imo.
It's ridiculous how fast he is on the bike, i guess that is what racing at world level for 6 years does for youOverall he's very much an asset to the championship and brilliant to watch on the bike imo.
daniel-5zjw7 said:
He is who he is, I can get why some people may find him a bit jarring but why should he have to change, he's not a presenter and doesn't need to pretend to be happy all the time. He's fast enough to to be where he is without being a PR dream.
Overall he's very much an asset to the championship and brilliant to watch on the bike imo.
Agreed, I'm not at all bothered what he's like as a personality. It's just sometimes the frustrations that appear to come across in his interviews look like they find their way into his riding.Overall he's very much an asset to the championship and brilliant to watch on the bike imo.
I love watching British Supersport though, it's my favourite series out of all of bike sport at the moment so I'm not wanting him to change as it all adds to the superb racing!
Zarco said:
crofty1984 said:
normalbloke said:
Wasn’t Fogarty a whinging,mithering,moaning grizzling prick?
He was at my local bike night last week. Seemed alright.I don't think some peoples humour translates well on camera, i suspect TBA has a wicked sense of humour away from his day job but i guess when he is on the grid he is just concentrating on what he has to do
I guess a spell in a team where you get abused by your own mechanics might make anyone a bit down on racing
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Edited by swampy442 on Wednesday 30th August 13:39
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