S1000R VS GSX-S1000
Discussion
I'm hankering after a new bike and these two are top of the list.
Specifically the 14-20 S1000R and the 21+ GSX-S1000.
Has anyone ridden both? Does anyone have any experience of the current Suzuki?
Electronic suspension, heated grips and that engine are pulling me toward the BMW but the Suzuki is great value for money.
Specifically the 14-20 S1000R and the 21+ GSX-S1000.
Has anyone ridden both? Does anyone have any experience of the current Suzuki?
Electronic suspension, heated grips and that engine are pulling me toward the BMW but the Suzuki is great value for money.
I’d probably opt for the Suzuki, I think they’re a little rarer and less polished, but then would be quite happy on the other one. Ride them and see what deal you can get.
I’d not let the lack of an IMU put you off too much - my MT10 and 750 don’t have them and I’ve not felt either bike is lacking in that respect.
I’d not let the lack of an IMU put you off too much - my MT10 and 750 don’t have them and I’ve not felt either bike is lacking in that respect.
I’m a Suzuki fan but the S1000 is better in all respects, except arguably, reliability.
The main negative of the BM is that they can be buzzy so you’ll need to ride the one you are looking at to make sure it’s ok for you.
I bought a Super Duke last year but would have had a GSX S1000 if it looked nicer. Having said that and touching wood at the same time the Super Duke hasn’t given me any problems and I love a v twin.
The main negative of the BM is that they can be buzzy so you’ll need to ride the one you are looking at to make sure it’s ok for you.
I bought a Super Duke last year but would have had a GSX S1000 if it looked nicer. Having said that and touching wood at the same time the Super Duke hasn’t given me any problems and I love a v twin.
Actually, I think the OP should get an MT10.
I rode mine again today (off to a delay to chat about PX options) and was reminded how bloody awesome that engine it.
Once above 10k it just sounds like some sort of s*xual death machine.
Edit: you’ve also got the reliability of a Jap bike, whilst being a little more ‘exotic’ than both of the options under current consideration. Pretty decent suspension on the SP too.
I rode mine again today (off to a delay to chat about PX options) and was reminded how bloody awesome that engine it.
Once above 10k it just sounds like some sort of s*xual death machine.
Edit: you’ve also got the reliability of a Jap bike, whilst being a little more ‘exotic’ than both of the options under current consideration. Pretty decent suspension on the SP too.
Edited by Tribal Chestnut on Friday 11th August 16:37
Tribal Chestnut said:
Actually, I think the OP should get an MT10.
Came here to say this. I'd pick the S1000R over the Suzuki in terms of power, excitement, dash/electronics and brakes.
I'd pick the MT10 over the S1000R because the engine has so much character… even though it's objectively not as good as the S1000R in many ways (brakes, dash, looks for most people).
TimmyWimmyWoo said:
Tribal Chestnut said:
Actually, I think the OP should get an MT10.
Came here to say this. I'd pick the S1000R over the Suzuki in terms of power, excitement, dash/electronics and brakes.
I'd pick the MT10 over the S1000R because the engine has so much character… even though it's objectively not as good as the S1000R in many ways (brakes, dash, looks for most people).
I had a feeling the MT-10 would make an appearance in this thread 
For me its a bit too upright making it less comfortable and I can't get past the poor tank range. Not great value for money either as the residuals are good. And controversially, I prefer the sound of a regular I4.
S1000R is still top of the list. Appreciate the insights all.
For me its a bit too upright making it less comfortable and I can't get past the poor tank range. Not great value for money either as the residuals are good. And controversially, I prefer the sound of a regular I4.
S1000R is still top of the list. Appreciate the insights all.
Tribal Chestnut said:
SP fixes the dash and is a massive improvement on the S1R from that period. BMW brakes are a big improvement, but SBS RS pads, braided lines and Gilles levers (still OEM MC) transformed mine.
The regular MT10 gets the same dash as the SP since the gen 2, it’s still not a patch on the BMW’s. Still, I want the Yamaha quite a lot!TimmyWimmyWoo said:
Tribal Chestnut said:
SP fixes the dash and is a massive improvement on the S1R from that period. BMW brakes are a big improvement, but SBS RS pads, braided lines and Gilles levers (still OEM MC) transformed mine.
The regular MT10 gets the same dash as the SP since the gen 2, it’s still not a patch on the BMW’s. Still, I want the Yamaha quite a lot!I’ve looked at both this morning and the TFT display on the SP is so much nicer than the LCD one on the BMW, though I do like an analogue tach. All just IMO, I can understand that some prefer LCD to TFT.
Ive ridden all on the list , a fair bit, after riding them all I surprised myself by liking the BMW the most, considering the extras it offers over the bikes at a similar price(up/down quickshifter, cruise, electronic suspension, heated grips, IMU) they are really good value .
I do like the engine sound of the MT10 and it does offer more legroom but thats it IMHO…
Even the practicallity side of the BM is in its favour, im on my second now and will possibly get a third when the time comes.
Go and test ride the two and find out for yourself would be my advice.
I do like the engine sound of the MT10 and it does offer more legroom but thats it IMHO…
Even the practicallity side of the BM is in its favour, im on my second now and will possibly get a third when the time comes.
Go and test ride the two and find out for yourself would be my advice.
I got an S1000R 2019 a couple of months ago, paid £9k. I came from a 2003 Tuono but hadnt ridden a bike for a year.
Started off just riding in Road mode and found it very easy to get on with, thought it was uncomfortable on bumps, but turned out the preload for front and back were turned to absolute minimum (wondered why it was so easy to touch the floor). Sorted that out and it's been much better for hooning around. When I switched it up to Dynamic, it's spicier but you also feel like the electronics have got your back, I'm not pushing too hard but had a few back slips and you can kind of feel it nudging you back into place. Haven't tried Dynamic Pro yet as I would prefer to have ABS, TCS etc. at a good level.
Suspension settings with the DDC, I rarely try Dynamic and keep it in Road, as it just feels like Dynamic and average British roads don't mix, far too bumpy. Quickshifter up and down is now essential for any other bike purchase I make, I use it all the time.
I used rain mode for the first time the other day in fairly wet conditions. I was equally impressed how it feels more sedate and predictable in this mode, don't know how they do it.
Heated grips are handy when the sun goes down and starts to get a bit chilly in summer gloves.
I was also looking at ~2017 Tuonos, but the BMW feels like a better all-rounder, the Tuono TFT dash was a draw compared to the microwave screen on the beemer, but really when you're flying past stuff at the high rpms it's not an issue.
Low rpm quite slow compared to the Tuono I had before being a V2 the power delivery is quite different, I find this nice for pottering though. It's not too loud down low either which is a negative for some, but you feel a bit more respectable not rumbling people's earwax out going through a village.
Started off just riding in Road mode and found it very easy to get on with, thought it was uncomfortable on bumps, but turned out the preload for front and back were turned to absolute minimum (wondered why it was so easy to touch the floor). Sorted that out and it's been much better for hooning around. When I switched it up to Dynamic, it's spicier but you also feel like the electronics have got your back, I'm not pushing too hard but had a few back slips and you can kind of feel it nudging you back into place. Haven't tried Dynamic Pro yet as I would prefer to have ABS, TCS etc. at a good level.
Suspension settings with the DDC, I rarely try Dynamic and keep it in Road, as it just feels like Dynamic and average British roads don't mix, far too bumpy. Quickshifter up and down is now essential for any other bike purchase I make, I use it all the time.
I used rain mode for the first time the other day in fairly wet conditions. I was equally impressed how it feels more sedate and predictable in this mode, don't know how they do it.
Heated grips are handy when the sun goes down and starts to get a bit chilly in summer gloves.
I was also looking at ~2017 Tuonos, but the BMW feels like a better all-rounder, the Tuono TFT dash was a draw compared to the microwave screen on the beemer, but really when you're flying past stuff at the high rpms it's not an issue.
Low rpm quite slow compared to the Tuono I had before being a V2 the power delivery is quite different, I find this nice for pottering though. It's not too loud down low either which is a negative for some, but you feel a bit more respectable not rumbling people's earwax out going through a village.
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