Older 1000cc sports bikes worth it

Older 1000cc sports bikes worth it

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Slipperywang

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83 posts

82 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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It’s time for a new bike

I have an fzs600 fox eye my only bike had it for around 5 years. I have tracked it, toured on it and commute on it a few days a week and it’s a bit meh bought it on others advice. It’s reasonably reliable but I am fed up of removing the carbs and faffing with it

New bike I want it to be the full package more power, good handling and exciting

No matter which way I dice it an older 1000cc sports bike seems to fit the bill, 2010 ish gxsrs look really nice. Are they worth it though, or can they be a headache ? Is there anything new for 7k-10k that can even come close to competing ?

KTMsm

27,434 posts

269 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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There's a halfway house between a 13 yr old sportsbike and a new bike

Depends what your requirements are really (regarding reliability, depreciation etc)

The electronic aids tend to be the biggest difference between new and older bikes - some regard them as essential some hate them

Personally I'd struggle to look past a V4 Tuono bang for buck it's hard to beat IMO circa £7k but as everyone says - buy what you want


KurtFlew

417 posts

59 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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I own a 13 year old ZX10R, no rider aids or modes..just full power all the time. It's brilliant, doesn't look it's age and scares the st out of me everytime I open it up.

6 grand bargain if you ask me.

Soft Top

1,468 posts

224 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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I can’t comment on Suzuki’s but I have a 2010 Fireblade and it is no trouble - although does seems to attract punctures that my Street Tripe doesn’t!

I got it second hand from a dealer quite some years ago, perhaps when it was 7/8 years old, (I don’t recall). At that time it had about 17k miles on it. Since then I’ve only put about 4k on it but the only issue was the kill switch needing replacing about 1/2 months into my ownership. Starts first time although not quite “on the button” but the engine is larger and presumably high’ish compression so brup, brup, brummmmmmm - consistently. My wife’s 2021 Honda 1100 is similar.

Runs fabulously with soooooooo much power. I don’t have ABS or traction and have never needed them. Can’t fault it.

Edited by Soft Top on Friday 4th August 20:43

hiccy18

2,934 posts

73 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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7-10k is a healthy budget, plenty to choose from. Considering what you're using it for I was going to suggest a lightly used FZS1000, in their day a fantastic do-it-all litre bike, which sounds like what you're looking for. What about a Z1000SX?

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

188 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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You could easily get a decent gen 1 MT10 SP with sensible miles. Super bikes, but not a sportsbike.

rodericb

7,065 posts

132 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Oh yeah I think they certainly are. Even older ones are good and are pretty much incomparable to a FZ6 or whatever, so long as you aren't too fussed about rider aids...... Buy something which has been looked after - Britain seems to be awash with pampered superbikes. I think I'd have one of each if I lived there.

hunt123

282 posts

67 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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OP for the top end of your budget you'll be able to buy a new zx6r, fast + modern (tft dash, rider aids).

I wouldn't buy a big bike now without rider aids as I'm no Marquez and the state of our roads, plus the weather. I've had the traction control kick in for me several times on my bike.

trickywoo

12,209 posts

236 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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You can get unlucky with anything but a GSXR has the best chance of giving you no bother at all.

You can get the last gen bike for £9 / £10k lightly used.

The previous big update was 2012 but it’s not much different from 2007.

I’d be happy with any k series gsxr 1000.

ccr32

1,983 posts

224 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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I had a 2013 Fireblade which to this day I regret selling - I practically gave it away for £5.5k. Think it had 21k miles on it when it went.

Absolutely trouble free, even despite me throwing it into the kitty litter at Clearways once. Only unscheduled maintenance it required was a battery.

Plenty of power and no rider aids, yet FI and general Honda reliability- think we’ll look back on that time as a golden era of biking before too much longer.


Slipperywang

Original Poster:

83 posts

82 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Sounds good, think I will end up just getting the newest gsxr I can

I don’t know how long I will keep it I just need to know what a 1000 sports bike is like

My friend has a zx6r and he loves it but said it would be better with more torque

hunt123

282 posts

67 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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If i was buying a used litre bike for upto 10k i'd be looking at year 2017 fireblades.

LF5335

7,311 posts

49 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Tuono and MT-10 SP are the best calls. Probably the Tuono.

Both are pretty much everything you’d get in a Superbike without the hassle of the seating position.

Biker's Nemesis

39,581 posts

214 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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My least favourite 1000.

Not comfortable for me at all


Biker9090

1,040 posts

43 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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I'm looking at a 2017 onwards fireblade to replace my VFR. Wanted the IMU. You can quite easily get them for unsee £10k. I did look at the earlier ones but the ABS apparently causes massive issues.

gareth_r

5,921 posts

243 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Three years ago, Revzilla compared a $5,000, 55,000 miles plus, 2005 GSX-R with a new $28,000 2020 Panigale V4.



Seems to demonstrate that you can go back a long way and buy something that's still pretty impressive, so perhaps you'd be quite happy with a superbike that's a few years old.

ccr32

1,983 posts

224 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Biker9090 said:
I'm looking at a 2017 onwards fireblade to replace my VFR. Wanted the IMU. You can quite easily get them for unsee £10k. I did look at the earlier ones but the ABS apparently causes massive issues.
The c-ABS on Fireblades of 2008-2016 vintage has some well-publicised issues which you allude to, however happily you could also buy them without ABS, so would recommend finding one without.

If you did happen to find an ABS bike, you can rip out most of the ABS, cap off the pump and system in the appropriate places, and run new braided lines direct from master cylinders to callipers. Quite a few good guides out there on the internets of how to do it.

2017+ Fireblades junked the old combined ABS system in favour of a Bosch setup - if you believe the reviewers, you can still get the system to scare you on track if braking hard and raising the rear wheel - the IMU thinks you have pulled the lever too hard and therefore decides to release a bit of brake pressure for you..! I’ve never had mine do that though so guess you’d have to be really pressing on to get it to do that.

Still, better than the old system and the proper brown pants moments people reported of lever randomly coming right back to the bar.

Slipperywang

Original Poster:

83 posts

82 months

Sunday 6th August 2023
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gareth_r said:
Three years ago, Revzilla compared a $5,000, 55,000 miles plus, 2005 GSX-R with a new $28,000 2020 Panigale V4.



Seems to demonstrate that you can go back a long way and buy something that's still pretty impressive, so perhaps you'd be quite happy with a superbike that's a few years old.
That’s a good watch

I will be getting a gsxr if I get a super naked or anything else I will always wonder what a proper 1000 sports bike is like

ZX10R NIN

28,194 posts

131 months

Sunday 6th August 2023
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I have a 2005 ZX10R & it's a fantastic bike it's fully sorted now but it took a bit of time to get it there, it's a completely different ride to my newer stuff but just as engaging.

I'd say they're worth it.

Tyrell Corp

256 posts

26 months

Sunday 6th August 2023
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GSXR1000 maybe ? totally insane bikes, if that's what you like.

From going 50 /125 learner, then owning 550, 750 and 1100 bikes I always appreciated the thrashy middleweights just as much as I liked the big bore muscle bikes. ..maybe keep the 600 too if you can.