Abba Superbike Stand

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Biker 1

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7,852 posts

125 months

Saturday 22nd July 2023
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As the title: yay or nay??

I just got paddock stand bobbins for my new to me bike & attempted to lift the rear wheel with an ancient KTM stand. Rooky error including scratching the swingarm FFS! rage
So I just ordered an Abba Superbike stand - any pros/cons? Best method of erection??

trickywoo

12,209 posts

236 months

Saturday 22nd July 2023
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I have both. The Abba stand is a lot more hassle if all you want to do is clean the chain.

It may be because I have more experience with a paddock stand but I always feel there is more scope for error getting a bike up on the abba.

Farky

887 posts

210 months

Saturday 22nd July 2023
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I have one, with the front wheel lift kit, absolutely love it, purchased recently :-)

If you work on the bike mostly yourself then its defo worth it, if its only for chain maintenance etc then maybe not

Biker 1

Original Poster:

7,852 posts

125 months

Sunday 23rd July 2023
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Farky said:
I have one, with the front wheel lift kit, absolutely love it, purchased recently :-)

If you work on the bike mostly yourself then its defo worth it, if its only for chain maintenance etc then maybe not
I'm a bit anal about chain cleaning/tension & also polishing wheels etc - middle age & wanting to keep stuff looking & running right!
I'm usually OK with regular paddock stands, but this bike doesn't want to play ball: z900rs. I bought standard R&G bobbins, but they don't stick out enough beyond the swingarm to avoid scratching from paddock stand fork adaptors.
Hopefully I'll take delivery midweek & will report back....

Biker9090

1,040 posts

43 months

Sunday 23rd July 2023
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A pain for basic cleaning but am absolute godsend for major work Inc wheel/ fork/ swingarm removal

rigga

8,748 posts

207 months

Sunday 23rd July 2023
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Great bit of kit, easy to set up , front wheell lift kit works well , really like it, and use it a lot.

Just for chain cleaning I'll use a paddock stand, everything else , the ABBA.

Anything serious, the table bench gets dragged out.

Edited by rigga on Sunday 23 July 09:27

CoolHands

19,254 posts

201 months

Sunday 23rd July 2023
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I wouldn’t describe as easy, I always found it very cumbersome, unwieldy, and unenjoyable experience. Paddock stands far nicer unless your requirement is to remove a wheel or whatever.

rigga

8,748 posts

207 months

Sunday 23rd July 2023
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I find the ABBA far easier as I have no grab rail to steady the bike fitting the paddock stand, it's safer to assemble the ABBA, and lift the bike to upright .

Takes less than a minute.

Everyone has a preference.

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

188 months

Sunday 23rd July 2023
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Agree broadly w with the majority of comments here; paddock stand for chain maintenance and swapping wheels, Anna for anything longer-term or that might require a bit of force.

GSA_fattie

2,240 posts

227 months

Sunday 23rd July 2023
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Tribal Chestnut said:
Agree broadly w with the majority of comments here; paddock stand for chain maintenance and swapping wheels, Anna for anything longer-term or that might require a bit of force.
anna sounds like fun biggrin



KTMsm

27,434 posts

269 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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The best way to use a paddock stand is by using a front wheel chock first !

The rear ones with bobbins are far better than the ones without but with a heavy bike it's still a bit risky IMO

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

188 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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GSA_fattie said:
Tribal Chestnut said:
Agree broadly w with the majority of comments here; paddock stand for chain maintenance and swapping wheels, Anna for anything longer-term or that might require a bit of force.
anna sounds like fun biggrin
Plenty of WD40, duct tape and a hammer normally help, very long-term after that.

Biker 1

Original Poster:

7,852 posts

125 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Update:
Superbike stand arrived earlier (very polite Greek DPD driver). Lots of packaging requiring a Stanley knife, but no complaints as all the parts were shiny & undamaged.
Takes a bit of thinking to assemble everything & I was a bit nervous during the first erection.....
Very stable once up....
So far very pleased with purchase, although I'm not convinced about the optional tool tray I bought with it, as it tilts together with the stand. It was also a bit disconcerting that the side stand gets kicked up as you lever the stand up into position.
Any top tips from other owners appreciated!

snagzie

539 posts

66 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Biker 1 said:
Update:
Superbike stand arrived earlier (very polite Greek DPD driver). Lots of packaging requiring a Stanley knife, but no complaints as all the parts were shiny & undamaged.
Takes a bit of thinking to assemble everything & I was a bit nervous during the first erection.....
Very stable once up....
So far very pleased with purchase, although I'm not convinced about the optional tool tray I bought with it, as it tilts together with the stand. It was also a bit disconcerting that the side stand gets kicked up as you lever the stand up into position.
Any top tips from other owners appreciated!
Just be careful making sure both sides of the stand are properly "in" before raising as I scratched the side of my old bikes frame once when one side wasn't....

Also the front wheel adaption isnt really needed if you have a ground anchor and the wheels for the superbike stand; just ratchet the swingarm to the anchor for the same results smile


Also, agree with the above, chain maintenance is easier with a paddock stand (or ideally a centre stand like I now have for the 1st time!), bigger jobs are better with the ABBA

Andy XRV

3,854 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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I've have a mixture of sports and adventure bikes and when I bought the Abba stand one of the huge pluses for me is that it makes very easy to lift any one of them just by simply changing the adaptor.

But TBH I've moved on and for general maintenance including cleaning I use the Abba Skylift which is brilliant.

Gixer968CS

660 posts

94 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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I've used the ABBA stand for more than 10 years and didn't even own a paddock stand until recently. So, I suppose I have got very used to using the ABBA stand - every time I wash the bikes etc - and therefore find it very easy to use as I've had a lot of practice. I too have the front wheel lift thing with mine which is a bit of a faff tbh and would only use it if I need to remove a wheel etc, for washing I just tilt the bike on the main stand. Once the bike is in the stand it is very secure and gives a lot of confidence.

The one thing to look out for is using the ABBA stand on a bike a painted frame. When the bike is on a side stand the ABBA stand is assembled under the bike and depending on what swing arm pivots the bike has it is very common for the stand to slip off the bolts before it is tightened. This presents a real risk of scratching the frame. You have to be careful, or use masking tape on the frame (a faff).

Andy XRV

3,854 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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I've have a mixture of sports and adventure bikes and when I bought the Abba stand one of the huge pluses for me is that it makes very easy to lift any one of them just by simply changing the adaptor.

But TBH I've moved on and for general maintenance including cleaning I use the Abba Skylift which is brilliant.