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Just wondering if anyone has been running Continental RoadAttack 4.
Reason for asking is that they look a bit more dry grip biased than the Road 6 or Metzler 01 competition.
I'm currently going through S22 in a lot less than 2k road miles which is inconvenient as well as expensive.
I don't ride in the wet or cold so would prefer as much grip and mileage as I can get. I'm not sure if my view of the Road 6 / 01 being compromised in the dry because of the tread pattern is justified.
Any other suggestions for a bit more mileage without compromising too much on grip and feel? 4k would be good as I'm looking at 10p+ a mile on rear tyres alone with S22.
Reason for asking is that they look a bit more dry grip biased than the Road 6 or Metzler 01 competition.
I'm currently going through S22 in a lot less than 2k road miles which is inconvenient as well as expensive.
I don't ride in the wet or cold so would prefer as much grip and mileage as I can get. I'm not sure if my view of the Road 6 / 01 being compromised in the dry because of the tread pattern is justified.
Any other suggestions for a bit more mileage without compromising too much on grip and feel? 4k would be good as I'm looking at 10p+ a mile on rear tyres alone with S22.
They were on my s1000rr when I got it. They handled really well liads of grip, they were a smidge over 3000 miles when I got a puncture on them so can only vouch for that mileage. Now got michelin pilot power, these dont grip as well as the continental. I will deffo go back to Continental
trickywoo said:
black-k1 said:
I think a M9RR may be what you are looking for. Not as long lived as a Road 6 or 01SE but more "sports" focused.
I loved M7 but people seem to say the wear rate on the M9 is higher than S22.dibblecorse said:
At that end of the tyre range you either get grip or longevity, you can't have your cake and eat it I'm afraid ...
I'm ok with a compromise especially with an electronic safety net. With the S22 I don't feel I'm riding the edge of grip so wonder if I can get the same feel but with better mileage.trickywoo said:
Krikkit said:
If you like the S22s, maybe the BT016 Pro instead?
Thanks will take a look. I like the S22 and would prefer to buy Japanese than German.What’s the Japanese over German preference over? Why does it matter?
SAS Tom said:
BT016 is a well old tyre. Doubt it’ll be better at anything.
What’s the Japanese over German preference over? Why does it matter?
On a quick look the BT016 is getting on for half price compared to S22 so that’s something.What’s the Japanese over German preference over? Why does it matter?
The German thing for me is due to how they were with backing Ukraine. I know it likely makes no difference but if I put my business elsewhere for the same effect to me it makes me feel a bit better.
What this boils down to is that I feel like I’m paying for grip that I don’t need. If it was a few quid I wouldn’t mind but it’s looking like a potential extra £1k per 10k miles I’m spending for nothing.
I expect it will boil down to a marginal saving but a bit less hassle with less frequent changes with a branded sport touring tyre.
trickywoo said:
What this boils down to is that I feel like I’m paying for grip that I don’t need.
Unless your name is Guy Martin, that's probably true for us all. But it's not just grip, it's how they feel, do they feel plush and smooth or harsh and firm, are they firm enough in long sweeping high speed corners or do they feel less precise and supportive etc. The more you spend the better tyre you probably get. I don't do many miles a year so a rear tyre or two a year fine.trickywoo said:
Just wondering if anyone has been running Continental RoadAttack 4.
Reason for asking is that they look a bit more dry grip biased than the Road 6 or Metzler 01 competition.
I'm currently going through S22 in a lot less than 2k road miles which is inconvenient as well as expensive.
I don't ride in the wet or cold so would prefer as much grip and mileage as I can get. I'm not sure if my view of the Road 6 / 01 being compromised in the dry because of the tread pattern is justified.
Any other suggestions for a bit more mileage without compromising too much on grip and feel? 4k would be good as I'm looking at 10p+ a mile on rear tyres alone with S22.
If you're burning through S22s in less than 2k miles, it tells me you're probably quite an aggressive and sporting rider. The Continental Road Attack series (including what I've read on the RA4) are a relatively very slow turning tyre with a non-sporty tyre profile. The RA3 have been the only new tyres I have removed (after just 1 tank full) because they were so reluctant to turn in comparison to other tyres. They were probably great for straight line touring and riders who 'don't burn through S22s in less than 2k miles'... but initial reviews of the RA4 suggest it remains slow to turn, inline with the RA3. Reason for asking is that they look a bit more dry grip biased than the Road 6 or Metzler 01 competition.
I'm currently going through S22 in a lot less than 2k road miles which is inconvenient as well as expensive.
I don't ride in the wet or cold so would prefer as much grip and mileage as I can get. I'm not sure if my view of the Road 6 / 01 being compromised in the dry because of the tread pattern is justified.
Any other suggestions for a bit more mileage without compromising too much on grip and feel? 4k would be good as I'm looking at 10p+ a mile on rear tyres alone with S22.
kestral said:
Which tyre would last the longest, forget the grip issue? How much would it cost for a superbike?
P.S I know nothing about modern bikes.
So many variables but you are looking at £200 at least for a rear tyre, maybe a bit more if you want ride in ride out service.P.S I know nothing about modern bikes.
4k miles is good going if you are cornering (and more importantly for wear accelerating out) on a ‘big’ bike.
If you are touring but still riding hard when possible 8k is good from a sport touring tyre like a Michelin road 6 (earlier versions available).
Thanks to those reminding about feel too. This is why I’m reluctant to just buy a tyre and try it. I’m pretty sure any of the sport touring will feel less dynamic than a S22.
My question should maybe have been what’s the sportiest touring tyre that will give mileage?
Think I may just have to suck up the cost of tyres. In possibly more relatable terms tyres cost about the same as fuel on a big bike, maybe a bit more, and a chunk more at the under 2k I’m getting at the moment!
trickywoo said:
On a quick look the BT016 is getting on for half price compared to S22 so that’s something.
The German thing for me is due to how they were with backing Ukraine. I know it likely makes no difference but if I put my business elsewhere for the same effect to me it makes me feel a bit better.
What this boils down to is that I feel like I’m paying for grip that I don’t need. If it was a few quid I wouldn’t mind but it’s looking like a potential extra £1k per 10k miles I’m spending for nothing.
I expect it will boil down to a marginal saving but a bit less hassle with less frequent changes with a branded sport touring tyre.
I ran BT016's on my R1's for years. No problems with them at all.The German thing for me is due to how they were with backing Ukraine. I know it likely makes no difference but if I put my business elsewhere for the same effect to me it makes me feel a bit better.
What this boils down to is that I feel like I’m paying for grip that I don’t need. If it was a few quid I wouldn’t mind but it’s looking like a potential extra £1k per 10k miles I’m spending for nothing.
I expect it will boil down to a marginal saving but a bit less hassle with less frequent changes with a branded sport touring tyre.
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